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Posted September 16, 2022
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bluethief: You don't consider it an immersive sim? Or don't you consider it as a genre?
Don't see anything in it that'd make it a sim, as in the genre, yeah.
Posted September 17, 2022
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PaterAlf: Ok, I will be brave and volunteer to play the infamous Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude.
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bluethief: You're signed up! Have fun!
I've started playing and so far (4 hours) I have much more fun than I would have expected. Sure it is nothing like the other LSL games, but it has a similar humor and the story isn't worse than in the first Larry game.

Most of the minigames aren't very hard and if they are the game offers to adjust the difficulty (but that makes them way too easy). I would recommend using a controller though, the game was clearly made for consoles.

The one thing that is really bad is the German translation. They exchanged a lot of names and replaced them with German celebrities. Which might have worked when the game was made, but is pretty strange today (because many of them are forgotten by now). Also several lines aren't translated at all or say something completely different than the original.

Also the volume level of the game is very inconsistent. Sometimes it's quite loud, sometimes it's hard to understand anything at all.
Posted September 20, 2022
Immersive sim is a pretty esoteric term, honestly. I started getting into games like Deus Ex, System Shock, Bioshock or Dishonored long before I remember seeing them labelled that way. It doesn't help that it's easily confused for simulation games despite having nothing to do with them. It's still a label that inherently gets me interested whenever it's used though, since it inherently implies a very complex and ambitious approach to game design. While we're on the topic, Streets of Rogue is a neat one I've been playing lately. Anyway...

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bluethief: I played VtM: Bloodlines in May. Up until that point I was always delaying playing it. Immersive Sim, takes a lot of time to beat, etc. How I regret haven't played it sooner. I loved it! If you're like me and are feeling the same about it, don't. Just go play it, it's a great experience. Just don't forget to install the unofficial patch.
I might give it a try for an hour or two in that case, and see if I feel like continuing from there. I've always thought the RPG systems looked pretty demanding and time-consuming, more than games I'd usually play anyway.
Posted September 21, 2022
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Suicide_Angel: Immersive sim is a pretty esoteric term, honestly.
Huh, what a coincidence... And going from that Wikipedia link, and also from what's in this sale, the term sure seems to be used for something that's entirely different from what I think about when I see the word sim.
Considering that, I stand corrected, definitely fits the description.
Post edited September 21, 2022 by Cavalary
Posted September 21, 2022
I think "immersive sim" is a term that people are now used to, to categorize a set of games that combine a couple of systems: first-person, rpg elements, stealth, choice of how to approach things, etc.

We can probably draw a comparision to the now widely used "souls like" term, that define a (usually) third person action game with some rpg elements, that are know for being challenging.
Posted October 03, 2022
Just noticed that Second Sight also released on 2004, although GOG lists it as a 2005 title.

I also happens to be the game I've been playing right now. Well, tbh, I'm replaying as I had already played back then when it came out. However, this feels like a first because I remembered almost nothing of it.

I should be finished with it today, so I'll post my thoughts then.
Posted October 06, 2022
Finished Second Sight.

Like I said, although I had played this in the past, I had no recollection of it, only that it was a third person shooter with psychic powers.

Talking about the negatives first: the shooting mechanics is bad. Whenever you aim, the reticle gets locked into an enemy and then a dot inside it lets you aims freely to any part of the body. However. moving the dot is also bad. It would be much better if it let you aim the reticle at will like any other shooter. I guess this was designed for consoles and they didn't even bother make it better for PC players.

Using the psychic powers that require aiming at something can also be frustrating. Like the shooting, it gets locked at an object and trying to aim at another is not easy.

And last, the game has stealth elements, but in the end it is limited in what you can do. You cannot ghost an entire level, as the game will always force you to engage in combat.

Those were my main issues with the game, but even then they didn't stop me from having a good time with it.

The story is interesting and has you wondering what's going on. It can be a bit confusing but in the end it makes sense, I guess. I believe that some things are left unaswered and the ending is that typical short cutscene type where there's no follow up to the events.

Using the psychic powers are cool too. There are clearly some powers that are meant to be utilised more than others as the game was designed that way. Shame that a sequel never came to be, where it could expand upon these powers.

The game is overall short, 6 to 8 hours to complete, which imo is great as it doesn't overstays its welcome and can be a great game to play for those with more limited time.

All in all, I had a great time with it and recommend it to anyone who likes the genre. To my knowledge, there aren't many games who deal with psychic powers, so if you're interested in messing with some, then play this game. Now if only we could also get Psi-Ops: The Mindgate Conspiracy to get back on sale...
Posted October 06, 2022
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bluethief: ...
I hadn't even heard of Second Sight until now. Apparently it's developed by Free Radical, known for TimeSplitters mainly. Sounds like a bit of a hidden gem.
Posted October 06, 2022
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Suicide_Angel: I hadn't even heard of Second Sight until now. Apparently it's developed by Free Radical, known for TimeSplitters mainly. Sounds like a bit of a hidden gem.
Yeah it is. I think it's also of a cult classic that never got the recognition it deserved. Back in the day it was heavily compared to Psi-Ops: The Mindgate Conspiracy due to both being about using psychic abilities.
Posted October 06, 2022
I've completed Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude. It was neither very good nor very bad. Some of the minigames were fun, but they got a little repetitive in the end. Also the later dates were a little underwhelming, seemed they ran out of ideas and so for me lots of the jokes didn't really work. Was much better in the beginning of the game. But maybe the very bad German translation was also part of the problem.

All in all I would say that it was an ok game. Probably disappointing when you expect a traditional Larry game, but quite good when you love minigames and corny jokes.
Posted October 07, 2022
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PaterAlf: I've completed Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude. It was neither very good nor very bad. Some of the minigames were fun, but they got a little repetitive in the end. Also the later dates were a little underwhelming, seemed they ran out of ideas and so for me lots of the jokes didn't really work. Was much better in the beginning of the game. But maybe the very bad German translation was also part of the problem.

All in all I would say that it was an ok game. Probably disappointing when you expect a traditional Larry game, but quite good when you love minigames and corny jokes.
Nice, updated the OP accordingly.

I never played any Suit Larry game, so I don't have an opinion on it.
Posted October 07, 2022
Month is still young, so I will try to complete another game from this year.

Bad Mojo Redux it is.
Posted October 07, 2022
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PaterAlf: I've completed Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude. It was neither very good nor very bad. Some of the minigames were fun, but they got a little repetitive in the end. Also the later dates were a little underwhelming, seemed they ran out of ideas and so for me lots of the jokes didn't really work. Was much better in the beginning of the game. But maybe the very bad German translation was also part of the problem.

All in all I would say that it was an ok game. Probably disappointing when you expect a traditional Larry game, but quite good when you love minigames and corny jokes.
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bluethief: Nice, updated the OP accordingly.

I never played any Suit Larry game, so I don't have an opinion on it.
Well, I'd say that MCL doesn't really count as a Larry game. Was a mess made for DDR fans at the time I guess, nothing else going for it from where I'm standing.
Posted October 25, 2022
One week left and I've made no progress whatsoever. I had been waiting for 2004, but after playing some Nexus TJI I got distracted by a new Terraria update and had other things on my mind. ;F
Posted October 26, 2022
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InkPanther: One week left and I've made no progress whatsoever. I had been waiting for 2004, but after playing some Nexus TJI I got distracted by a new Terraria update and had other things on my mind. ;F
There's no problem at all. This thread will still exist after October is finished, so if you happen to play the game in the meantime, you can always post your thoughts afterwards.
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