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To be honest I'm a bit bitter about how streaming killed the kind of reviews we used to have a few years ago. Guys like Spoony, ProJared, MMO Grinder, Angry Joe etc. all entirely or almost entirely dropped doing scripted, edited reviews that were both funny and informative in favour of low effort, long, boring streams. I don't blame them, I understand that if they can get the views for just playing a game instead of working hard on a review, then that's what they'll do. But the fact that they can irks me to no end.
not being NerdCubed
Swearing. They almost all do it. I was watching an innocent cuphead stream with my kids when suddenly frustration took its toll and the guy just started customer up a storm. If we watch now, it's muted. Even if it looks family friendly.
being shallow and vapid. but that's not something i don't frame a particular person for, as you get burned on a stake if show some kind of character at all, meaning some kind of behavior outside the norm.
after all, this is a show to earn money and in real life, these streamers are normal by my standards. it's just sad we never get to know that person as.. see above.
the only exception seems about AzuriteReaction who streams about twice a year nowadays because he found a real life. good for him, and even though he said he will be streaming out of his eyes after he was questioned with "will you continue to stream" - good for him.
speaking about true character, good job dtgreene on the thread topic, even though i still am confused and scared out of my mind how i should address you.
Post edited May 26, 2018 by AlienMind
Breathe ....
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Tallima: Even if it looks family friendly.
Even the family friendly ones you have to watch out for. I forget the guy's name (white guy with brown (?) hair and beard, married, bought a house recently and I believe is on the gog twitch team.) but he'll start cursing after a bit. AT least on his edited youtube videos. You would think they would get bleeped there to maintain the "family friendly". Guess not.

Not saying that there shouldn't be cursing. Some of us are in an environment where it would cause issues.

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Post edited May 26, 2018 by drmike
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Tallima: [...] the guy just started customer up a storm. [...]
There's a euphemism I've never heard before. ;D
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nightcraw1er.488: Exist.
This. I'm not even entirely sure why this is a thing. If the whole idea imploded, and all the sites went away, I would not be mad.
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Tallima: Even if it looks family friendly.
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drmike: Not saying that there shouldn't be cursing. Some of us are in an environment where it would cause issues.

edit: CohhCarnage
Absolutely. I'm all for freely speaking.i think twitch would do well to give better family-friendliness ratings than just the adult content check mark.



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Tallima: [...] the guy just started customer up a storm. [...]
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HunchBluntley: There's a euphemism I've never heard before. ;D
I am the captain of bad spelling on my phone. :) Thanks for understanding!
Post edited May 26, 2018 by Tallima
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AB2012: In fact, when I look for gameplay footage to decide if I want to buy it, or perhaps a walkthrough for a puzzle solution, I always search for "no commentary" stuff for a reason..
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dtgreene: The problem with this is that, when searching "no commentary", since your search term includes the word "commentary", you are bound to get results that say "with commentary" (or something similar), which is clearly *not* what you are looking for.

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MightyPinecone: - To many viewers. To me, the main point with a stream compared to a let's play is the interactivity; this is lost when there are too many people in chat spamming memes.
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dtgreene: One tip: If the stream is a major event (like SGDQ, which is coming up), there may be some individual streamers hosting the big stream; the chat on the hoster's stream is going to be far less chaotic than the chat on the main stream.

(I think this is going to be true even if the main stream's chat is subscriber-only, as happened at AGDQ.)
I actually feel like the old school longplay with no commentary is a dying art. It's more immersive to me, personally, to have the game just be played and not have some nerd playing up a fake persona that's usually obnoxious, ignorant, or just plain annoying af. It's almost as bad as streamers/let's players who have like no game awareness, or skill, and their personality ruins the watching experience on top of it.

Don't get me wrong either, I'm not a gatekeeper and that's not what I mean. I cut people a lot of slack, because I don't know if they're new to gaming, new to a game genre, could be disabled, etc. What I mean are LPers that are clueless, remain clueless, have zero awareness and will continually blame games for themselves getting stuck or failing, then they come back after watching a walkthrough or something, at which point, I'm out.

That said, on the flip side, I REALLY enjoyed a playthrough of the original Wasteland and Fallout Classics series that a guy whose user handle I've forgotten did, where his commentary style was like a personal diary/mission log style, where he described his actions in game, with some flavor that wasn't added by the game itself, and done in a similar audio style in order to really amp up the experience. I feel like commentary that aims to entertain, should do so with emphasis to enhance the gameplay itself, or to explain it, react to plot points, etc. That's what appeals to me, personally. (Also, this is just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.)
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kharille: I wish the pretty girls would play games that I like. Skyrim Fallout 4 ok. Fortnite, pubg and childish graphics no.
I actually saw a Classic Fallout 1 and 2 playthrough by a fairly pretty girl not long ago. Shocked the shit out of me that someone her age would even be interested in them, but she was pretty good.
Post edited May 26, 2018 by LiquidOxygen80
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LiquidOxygen80: That said, on the flip side, I REALLY enjoyed a playthrough of the original Wasteland and Fallout Classics series that a guy whose user handle I've forgotten did, where his commentary style was like a personal diary/mission log style, where he described his actions in game, with some flavor that wasn't added by the game itself, and done in a similar audio style in order to really amp up the experience. I feel like commentary that aims to entertain, should do so with emphasis to enhance the gameplay itself, or to explain it, react to plot points, etc. That's what appeals to me, personally. (Also, this is just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.)
Hmm... you mean mynameisnotlilly? I loved his let's plays of BG/fallout/nwn.
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LiquidOxygen80: That said, on the flip side, I REALLY enjoyed a playthrough of the original Wasteland and Fallout Classics series that a guy whose user handle I've forgotten did, where his commentary style was like a personal diary/mission log style, where he described his actions in game, with some flavor that wasn't added by the game itself, and done in a similar audio style in order to really amp up the experience. I feel like commentary that aims to entertain, should do so with emphasis to enhance the gameplay itself, or to explain it, react to plot points, etc. That's what appeals to me, personally. (Also, this is just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.)
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FoxySage: Hmm... you mean mynameisnotlilly? I loved his let's plays of BG/fallout/nwn.
Yes! He has a perfect narrator's voice. I really enjoyed his LPs.
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FoxySage: Hmm... you mean mynameisnotlilly? I loved his let's plays of BG/fallout/nwn.
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LiquidOxygen80: Yes! He has a perfect narrator's voice. I really enjoyed his LPs.
Heh, tbh i didn't expect anyone else to know about him since he haven't uploaded anything on the channel in forever due to real life stuff/work. And yes, he was one of my favourite let's players on youtube. :)
Post edited May 27, 2018 by FoxySage
I remember once in highschool, this guy invited a bunch of people to his house for his birthday, only to spend most of the time playing video games single-player while everyone had to watch. From then on everybody would rag on him as the kid who made everyone watch him play vidya at his birthday.

I guess some people didn't get the memo.
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Crosmando: this guy invited a bunch of people to his house for his birthday
I had a duel birthday party like that with another kid. I kept smiling but pitched a fit when I got home.