What set you off most in the Wheel of the Time t.v. adaptation ?

General let-downs to me are usually the lack of time to introduce characters in series. Wheel of time specifics that really surprised were, for one, the choice to give Perrin a wife and to uhm create a more sense of maturity for all the characters at the beginning of their Journey. The other big surprise was,(ofc) the choice for Matt's endeavour presented in the last episodes.

Other smaller stuff, no chameleon cloaks for the warders, no room for the characters' weapon adaptations (general let-downs).

All in all, those were all surprises I could handle fairly well. I have not yet reached a point where i can say that the essence (well of course the essence of the books was this psychology guy who knew how to write a story) is removed.

From a wheel of time point of view you might even suggest that this is actually the same story during a different turn of the wheel.

To conclude, i'm really looking forward to seeing into what this show will evolve (and if it will reach the full 8 seasons it is planned to reach)

I love The Witcher universe, but I probably won't touch Blood Origin even with a stick. :) Mixed reviews are rare and most of them are very negative. It appears it's a waste of time. It's better to spend it on playing The Witcher games for the fourth time. ;)

Well considering the role of the entire set with the dagger and ruby, and Mat's sickness when they split up and learning to play the flute for Rand... Their time alone, assassination attempts, and Rand having to step up all play into the finale of the series, and they skipped that... That was a huge deal to me too, besides the idea that the kids are more mature, and Perrin having a wife. Their coming of age was actually pretty important to the story. Rand never had his moment in the woods with his father's fever dream, running from Myrddraal and trollocs, Perrin's farm wasn't attacked, Harral Luhahn doesn't even exist.. I could go on and on. Just so so many choices that affect the plot in a big way, and yet, it's like they read a short synopsis of the books and not the books themselves.

It's a piece of shit... I was expecting to be bad, but no that bad. Netflix original series are rotten to the core.

The big issue with Blood Origin is its going in with the worst reputation where it cant succeed as part of the witcher-verse.

The Netflix adaptation of the Witcher is honestly not very good. The first episode with Renfri was awesome but it just goes down from there. Season 1 ended with honestly quite a few stupid events but I think most fans sort of chaulked it up to growing pains and hoped for a good season 2.

However, season 2 shows both showrunner incompetence and a lack of respect for the lore. From issues like less focus on Geralt despite the show being called "The Witcher" to more major things like the death of a pretty big character and betrayal by another which severely impacts an important relationship in the show, it honestly gives the impression that the showrunners and writers dont really understand the Witcher, giving Star Wars sequel trilogy vibes.

This is basically confirmed by the fact that a former writer who left saying that the writers in the Witcher hated and actively mocked the books and games, the showrunner saying she didnt hire lore experts but "fans who are willing to question and criticize," and the fact that lore and canon-focused Cavill had wanted to leave at the end of season 2 and did with season 3, meaning that season 3 will be more of the same or worse.

These same writers are now heading Blood Origin and given their "respect" for the material in the original show, how "respectful" will they be in the Witcher world where they are given free reign to add to the lore?

It might be a good generic fantasy show for you but if thats the case, it should stand on its own rather than it generic fantasy show and not make it part of the Witcher franchise.

I really liked the adaptation of The Witcher. Though not lore perfect, it is very well made. The writing, direction, acting and camera work is top drawer. Blood Origin unfortunately has none of these positive attributes (apart from a couple of decent acting performance. Like 2 max). It’s low budget, badly imagined idiot fodder. The sort of standardised crap that ABC or Fox knocks out on American tv. A crying shame because it could and should have been amazing as the basic premise is a promising one. Truly fucking awful!

People are free to like what they like...

... but...

... I have no interest in watching even another minute of this show. IMHO it's hard to find anything redeeming... and to be honest, I find it surprising (not a strong enough word) the number of people who are enjoying it.

I've not yet seen The Witcher series, and I might absolutely hate it when I do. But honestly it is always subjective whether we like something or not. It depends on where we are coming from, what we've seen and done in our lives, our level of understanding of things, especially through growth and experience. And simple or not so so simple mindset has a big part to play.

I don't imagine the creators of the show came away thinking they did a poor or bad job. At worst you can probably say they did not do justice to the material or did not really understand it, or took liberties in a way some of us cannot agree with. All that too, is subjective. Just like when I love a band, I tend to love the guitarist, while others love the singer or the drummer etc. And for those of us who like the guitarist, it can often be for different reasons. Nobody in reality is the perfect arbiter of something, not even the creator. Songwriters are often surprised at the interpretations by some folk if not many, of their songs, and the good ones at least accept that. The same happens with stories, where once again it is about how we relate to things personally.

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I am a huge fan of the Wheel Of Time books by Robert Jordan and then the last three by Brandon Sanderson. No-one is a bigger fan than me, though many are probably just as big. So I am quite surprised when someone who might also be as big a fan, hated the TV Series, while I thought it was great. I can understand not liking it as much as me, but to actually hate it, boggles my mind. I thought they got so many things right, and what they didn't, really didn't matter to the overall story. I never expect perfection, far from it, and it doesn't matter to me, unless something they do is significant and jars, like some kind of insult to your intelligence. I expect some liberties to be taken in the visual medium, in my experience always related to limitations of the medium, whether that be costs, whether that be time or complexity, or whether it just simply be making something appeal more to mainstream folk. I don't think it is smart for fans to see these shows and not expect that, and then let that ruin the whole experience for them.

If I've learned anything from entertainment media in 2022, it's that movies and TV-shows are not as awesome and unique as mainstream media preaches, nor as horrible and abominable as anti-mainstream critics argue. Both sides try to counter each other by exaggerating how good/bad something is, and are using each other as excuses for riling people up. It doesn't help the situation when directors, writers and actors/actresses start saying really dumb things. If you manage to alienate the original fans of the franchise there's a very high risk of your show failing. If you're not writing for the fans you should not have anything to do with a franchise, period, invent your own fictional world instead.

At least Blood Origin seems to have a more focused storyline, the main Witcher show is just a mess to me.

the 90's, and maybe part of the 80's - i'm not that old - were a great time for reading.

To recall some fantasy epos.

. Terry Brooks - Shannara
. Eddings - Belgarian's Chronicles
. That guy from the Amber series
. The Wheel of Time
. Tad Williams - Memory, Sorrow and Thorn
. Terry Goodkind - Sword of Truth series
Not to mention the countless releases done by that epic duo Margaret & Weiss

Not sure what the Amber series is a reference to, and I have only ever read one Margaret & Weiss novel, which was sort of okay, but I'm with you on all the others, great they are.

The Amber series written by Roger Zelazny, this is not a classical fantasy tale but pretty entertaining all in all.

I think the Blood Origin series isn't half as bad as the reviews say it is. It did change stuff from the lore that anyways was changed in the other series, but as part of the Netflix Witcher universe it's acceptable.

huh? ;D

Just be glad books do not suffer as much as movies from either a lack of funding or a lack of talented crew... public outcry.. It just needs one able hand