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General discussionThe Unannounced Addition of Linux and macOS Versions Thread(464 posts)(464 posts)
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Posted November 20, 2017
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ElTerprise: And another one:

Shadow Warrior Redux:
Nice, though I'm waiting for promised and never arrived Shadow Warrior 2...
Posted November 20, 2017
Just a little angry rant so...

This freaking Jazzpunk drives me nuts. Its literally "DRM-FREE + Linux = GTFO"

GOG is not super good at getting ports fro Linux. Its maybe partly due GOG issues or legal issues or, sometimes, just because developers is jerks.
Linux version of jazzpunk is absent on GOG but back in 2015 it was part of Humble Weekly Bundle: Extra Life 2015. I emailed them several times about GOG but they never responded. In the end they released Director Cut here but linux is still missing.
And just recently, as i found out, they finally updated Humble version to Director's Cut (probably). Aaaand most interesting thing is that THEY REMOVED DRM-FREE LINUX VERSION from everyone's accounts.
Not just updated Win+Mac and leved old linux build as is but erased all traces to old Linux version. On https://www.humblebundle.com/store/jazzpunk its also not mentioned anymore for DRM-FREE.
I'm going to mail them but again, they never answered me, albeit some folks on GOG received answers.
So Jazzpunk DRM-FREE for linux is no more now. Big thanks to Necrophone.
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muntdefems: Another candidate to appear soon in this thread?
Dont forget about recent Coma recut and Corpse Party too.
Post edited November 20, 2017 by Redfern
Posted November 20, 2017
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ElTerprise: And another one:

Shadow Warrior Redux:
Added to the list, thanks!


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Redfern: And just recently, as i found out, they finally updated Humble version to Director's Cut (probably). Aaaand ost interesting thing is that THEY REMOVED DRM-FREE LINUX VERSION from everyone's accounts.
Not just updated Win+Mac and leved old linux build as is but erased all traces to old Linux version. On https://www.humblebundle.com/store/jazzpunk its also not mentioned anymore for DRM-FREE.
I'm going to mail them but again, they never answered me, albeit some folks on GOG received answers.
So Jazzpunk DRM-FREE for linux is no more now. Big thanks to Necrophone.
Yeah, noticed that too. :(((


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Redfern: Dont forget about recent Coma recut and Corpse Party too.
Right you are!
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/the-linux-beta-of-the-coma-recut-is-running-nicely-should-be-out-properly-soon.10582
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/corpse-party-a-story-driven-adventure-and-horror-game-can-now-be-played-on-linux.10662
Posted November 20, 2017
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muntdefems: Another candidate to appear soon in this thread?
Also developer oficially confirmed Linux release - http://www.big-robot.com/2017/11/19/the-signal-from-linux-that-real-life-thing-the-eerie-possibilities-of-the-future/

Important part is "We’re picking up some speed again now, however, and the Linux port for TSFT is up on Steam and most of the other portals too."
So there is hope it will arrive soon.
Posted November 21, 2017
Maybe it's just my impression but it seems GOG finally are getting their grips together with the Linux community, I've passed the entire weekend burning through Sphinx, which is great btw and surprisingly uses less than 200mb of memory and not a single crash so far (halfway through more or less).

Also the recent appearance of Linux - Sudden Strike 4 on GOG gives me some hope that Kalypso are making an effort.

Signal From Tolva was made in Unity so there's a 99% chance it will appear here very soon, on Steam it was released just 4 days ago and it's not even listed as a Linux compatible game there yet either. So yeah give it time.

The actual question I came to ask: Is the Shadow Warrior Redux Linux port a native one? Thanks
Post edited November 21, 2017 by Ganni1987
Posted November 21, 2017
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Ganni1987: The actual question I came to ask: Is the Shadow Warrior Redux Linux port a native one? Thanks
Yes it is. 32bit only, though.


As for Kalypso, I'm also hoping they'll start bringing all the overdue Linux versions over here, but I'm not believing it until I see another one.
Posted November 21, 2017
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Redfern: Just a little angry rant so...

This freaking Jazzpunk drives me nuts. Its literally "DRM-FREE + Linux = GTFO"

GOG is not super good at getting ports fro Linux. Its maybe partly due GOG issues or legal issues or, sometimes, just because developers is jerks.
Linux version of jazzpunk is absent on GOG but back in 2015 it was part of Humble Weekly Bundle: Extra Life 2015. I emailed them several times about GOG but they never responded. In the end they released Director Cut here but linux is still missing.
And just recently, as i found out, they finally updated Humble version to Director's Cut (probably). Aaaand most interesting thing is that THEY REMOVED DRM-FREE LINUX VERSION from everyone's accounts.
Not just updated Win+Mac and leved old linux build as is but erased all traces to old Linux version. On https://www.humblebundle.com/store/jazzpunk its also not mentioned anymore for DRM-FREE.
I'm going to mail them but again, they never answered me, albeit some folks on GOG received answers.
So Jazzpunk DRM-FREE for linux is no more now. Big thanks to Necrophone.
I complained to Humble about this fraudulent behaviour in a formal letter-writing style ("Dear ..."), asked them to resolve this so I don't need to consider taking Necrophone Games to court, and told them that, since there's apparently no curation to prevent purchases from being pulled, I'm now considering only buying from GOG.

We'll see if anything comes of it.

Either way, I'm now off to waste who knows how much time digging through my stacks of DVD+R backups to find and make copies of my DRM-free Linux Jazzpunk backup.
Posted November 21, 2017
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ssokolow: I complained to Humble about this fraudulent behaviour in a formal letter-writing style ("Dear ..."), asked them to resolve this so I don't need to consider taking Necrophone Games to court, and told them that, since there's apparently no curation to prevent purchases from being pulled, I'm now considering only buying from GOG.

We'll see if anything comes of it.

Either way, I'm now off to waste who knows how much time digging through my stacks of DVD+R backups to find and make copies of my DRM-free Linux Jazzpunk backup.
One thing is i simply dont understand is WHY? Yes, we have a bunch of games here released without linux ports. Some is thanks to absence of Gog Galaxy, some is because developer of AAA games dont want to "waste time" on GOG and so on, sometimes it due poor quality (and resulting poor support).
But Necrophone's Jazzpunk not fits here! Its not AAA title to behave like spoiled brat and its not tied to Galaxy and old linux build worked mostly fine for me (there was several glitches but nothing even close to be serious issue), its Unity after all. Heck, i think build on Humble wasnt updated even once since its bundle release, right from 2015 and they was pretty much Ok with that all this time. And now they just...
Posted November 21, 2017
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Redfern: Aaaand most interesting thing is that THEY REMOVED DRM-FREE LINUX VERSION from everyone's accounts.
What stinks here is that they did it not because they stopped supporting the Linux version (Steam still has it), but apparently because they wanted to mess up DRM-free Linux users (only Linux ones). It's very weird and I see no good explanation for such behavior.

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ssokolow: Either way, I'm now off to waste who knows how much time digging through my stacks of DVD+R backups to find and make copies of my DRM-free Linux Jazzpunk backup.
You probably know that already, but optical discs are not a good long term back up medium. They simply deteriorate with time. Regular hard drive can survive much longer.
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Redfern: But Necrophone's Jazzpunk not fits here! Its not AAA title to behave like spoiled brat and its not tied to Galaxy and old linux build worked mostly fine for me (there was several glitches but nothing even close to be serious issue), its Unity after all. Heck, i think build on Humble wasnt updated even once since its bundle release, right from 2015 and they was pretty much Ok with that all this time. And now they just...
Here is what I've just found:

A director's cut of the game, self-published by Necrophone Games, was released for the PlayStation 4 in September 2016, and for personal computer platforms in June 2017
Given that Sony is involved, may be they just messed it up. Though why would Sony require to mess up Linux version and not others is still weird.

Other possiblity - they don't have Linux developers on board and had to contract someone who required Steam as a method of tracking sales percentages. Not sure how GOG and Humble handle that.
Post edited November 21, 2017 by shmerl
Posted November 21, 2017
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Redfern: Aaaand most interesting thing is that THEY REMOVED DRM-FREE LINUX VERSION from everyone's accounts.
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shmerl: What stinks here is that they did it not because they stopped supporting the Linux version (Steam still has it), but apparently because they wanted to mess up DRM-free Linux users (only Linux ones). It's very weird and I see no good explanation for such behavior.
Well, there is one other possibility (on the verge of conspiracy theory right now due to lack of any hard proof): Valve just wants to make sure that "Linux == Steam".

There was a "cool story" about some coffee company (Nes**e) conducting an experiment: it picked an isolated island and started bribing local athorities to outright ban any other sorts of coffee than "N**cafe" and all competing coffee companies. The goal was to achieve total switch in local language and culture. They were trying to find out whether it is possible to completely purge the word "coffee" from peoples' minds and replace it with their own brand (as we know nearly happened with "Xerox" etc.).

While this maybe was just a fairytale, we saw: Valve removed Tux icon from its store, it inserted SteamOS before "Linux" wherever possble and a lot of SteamOS ports only available on Valve's store. And now this…
Post edited November 21, 2017 by Alm888
Posted November 21, 2017
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shmerl: You probably know that already, but optical discs are not a good long term back up medium. They simply deteriorate with time. Regular hard drive can survive much longer.
I'm well aware... I'm just not yet in a position to migrate all of my DVD+Rs over to hard drives. Hence my purchasing of a stockpile of JVC Taiyo Yuden media I trust to cover the period needed to research, save for, and migrate to a post-optical-media data hoarding solution.

Beyond that, I augment the ISOs for discs meant to not to serve in concert with a cloud counterpart (eg. GOG, Humble, my GitHub account, etc.) with ddrescue ECC before burning to further reduce the chances of data loss.
Posted November 21, 2017
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shmerl: What stinks here is that they did it not because they stopped supporting the Linux version (Steam still has it), but apparently because they wanted to mess up DRM-free Linux users (only Linux ones). It's very weird and I see no good explanation for such behavior.
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Alm888: Well, there is one other possibility (on the verge of conspiracy theory right now due to lack of any hard proof): Valve just wants to make sure that "Linux == Steam".

There was a "cool story" about some coffee company (Nes**e) conducting an experiment: it picked an isolated island and started bribing local athorities to outright ban any other sorts of coffee than "N**cafe" and all competing coffee companies. The goal was to achieve total switch in local language and culture. They were trying to find out whether it is possible to completely purge the word "coffee" from peoples' minds and replace it with their own brand (as we know nearly happened with "Xerox" etc.).

While this maybe was just a fairytale, we saw: Valve removed Tux icon from its store, it inserted SteamOS before "Linux" wherever possble and a lot of SteamOS ports only available on Valve's store. And now this…
Exactly what I thought since noticing how many Linux ports are Steam exclusive while the DRM-free versions of the same games are on Windows and often also Mac.
Post edited November 21, 2017 by Klumpen0815
Posted November 21, 2017
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shmerl: Other possiblity - they don't have Linux developers on board and had to contract someone who required Steam as a method of tracking sales percentages. Not sure how GOG and Humble handle that.
Thats possible, but 1) Its Unity 2) Still, why remove old build? For example, Even after Trine (firts) was updated to Ex. edition old (original) builds is still available for download. Even GOg allows one to request old (initial) Divinity Original Sin build if they have need for it.
Posted November 21, 2017
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shmerl: Other possiblity - they don't have Linux developers on board and had to contract someone who required Steam as a method of tracking sales percentages. Not sure how GOG and Humble handle that.
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Redfern: Thats possible, but 1) Its Unity 2) Still, why remove old build? For example, Even after Trine (firts) was updated to Ex. edition old (original) builds is still available for download. Even GOg allows one to request old (initial) Divinity Original Sin build if they have need for it.
Yeah, all that doesn't really explain it well. And developers hiding from their own bad decisions doens't make it better either.
Posted November 21, 2017
Well, i wrote to both Necrophone and Humble Support. Not expecting much usefulness , especially from Necrophone (they either dont get my messages or prefer to ignore uncomfortable ones) but lets see that we get.
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