rjbuffchix: Okay...but I think it is far from "unquestionable" that the newer games are better and yes that includes all the games you listed in this topic. How do you go about proving "unquestionable"? One would think based on objective facts about the game and what it does/doesn't do. But when I tried to work with something objective like this, amount of freedom in the game, you went on to talk about how some people prefer less of it, shifting discussion to subjective.

rjbuffchix: No, sorry. I mean really linear ones with next to no flexibility. It was just an expression.

rjbuffchix: So in other words, they did want to make limited access to their older content already. Maybe you have a more optimistic view of how these companies have seen the light and are now all about the consumer. I do not share such a view :)

rjbuffchix: You posted a 100 point list, but proving your claim would result in the post becoming a "novel"? Sorry, I don't buy that. You're the one making the claim, dude. It's not unreasonable to expect substantiation. I don't think the conversation would've dovetailed so much if it weren't for posting your "bad games list" out of nowhere. Just my opinion on that though.

rjbuffchix: While that's a fair point, remember that one person's quality of life improvement is another person's detriment to the experience. There are many Elder Scrolls players who will tell you how the creators did not "find the right balance" with Skyrim, or even with Oblivion (compared to the earlier entries), for that matter. Also many quality of life improvements are quite different from the old ways, different enough that usually people will prefer one version strongly over the other.

Also, I'd like to thank you for the discussion. I am not trying to annoy you. I am just trying to show why these various factors would be relevant to consumers/readers.

Dracomut1990: Oh wait no, you are just being ignorant. You can dislike new games all you want, but saying that modern gaming is nothing trash is just dumb.

eric5h5: That's hilarious considering I never said I disliked new games. You just made that up. I like plenty of new games. If you need to invent stuff to argue against, you already soundly lost. I also clearly never said that modern gaming is nothing but trash, you just made that up too. So I accept your implicit admission that you have no valid arguments. eric5h5: Um, yeah, I've actually made games (and made money off them), I know far more about it than you. You really don't know anything about game jams? You make a game in a day, or at most a weekend. Talk about ignorance! eric5h5: You're weren't aware of the extent until I told you, but like I said you'd do earlier, you're just trying to hand-wave it away and say that it doesn't count. The amount of it objectively and measurably worse now. eric5h5: So, you admit that modern gaming isn't better.

Dracomut1990: "And? There are 100 worse games released every day now. If you want to be objective, modern gaming is objectively worse. Totally insane amounts of churned-out asset flip shovelware released for mobile and Steam."
"Nope. It's absolutely worse now. Making anything at all, even garbage, used to take at least a little effort and ability, so it was relatively limited compared to today."
Do you have short-term memory loss or something?

eric5h5: No. Can you argue without resorting to insults? And what does my quote have to do with anything? It doesn't say anything you claimed I said, and indeed proves to everyone you just make stuff up. eric5h5: Can you post a photo of your degree in game design to prove you're not lying? Note that so-called "degrees in game design" are almost always worthless and are basically a joke in the industry. Primarily scams designed to part kids dreaming about being video game creators from their money. Get a CS degree if you actually want something useful that means anything.

If I posted links you'd just say I was lying about making the games, because you can't accept being wrong. How about this...a neutral party will announce a simple game idea at a pre-determined date and time, then each of us makes a game using that idea, and must post a link to a downloadable version of the game within 24 hours. Deal? eric5h5: It's far, far worse. Literally hundreds of trash games are churned out every week, if not thousands. It used to take at least a year to get that many.

tinyE: Ahhhh, yes, it's good to be back!

I missed the place! :P

Dracomut1990: I can certainly see why. We got a good mixture of actually decent people to talk with and really angry failures to laugh at.

Dracomut1990: Hooboy, I did not expect this post to become so controversial so quickly. I know the nostalgic people on this site can get emotional but dang... Say old games aren't perfect and that there is some good in modern games, suddenly some of them are out for blood.
If you are triggered by this list then I apologize for the offense, though I do ask to keep your response civil. Whilst it does contain what I think are legit problems with reviews on GOG, in the end this is just meant to be a good-natured joke. If you disagree with gag commandments then I would be happy to hear what you think would work better. Angry comments will be ignored, someone having a difference of opinion as you is no reason to get riled up and bitter.

Tauto: It's a stab in the dark but I think post 9 put a few off.

Dracomut1990: Those were quotes literally from your old posts, proving you indeed dislike and think many new games are trash.

Dracomut1990: Probably, I have a bad habit of coming across much gruffer and more aggressive than I really intend

Tauto: You're a kitten.

eric5h5: Point out the part, exactly, that says I dislike new games. Yes, I did indeed say many (indeed most) new games are trash. That was kind of the whole point. eric5h5: OK, so you're all talk with nothing to back it up. Thought so. I will totally make a 24-hour game if you agree to the terms above. I'm right here on public record. But I guess this is your way of admitting you don't know anything about making games.

By the way, here's a link to a game jam calendar, since you were unaware that it's possible to make games in 24 hours. In fact you can see one group has a 1-hour game jam. And now I see a 30-minute jam! That's a new one on me...24 hours is one thing, but half an hour does seem a tad brief.