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paladin181: According to the courts, they have the right temporarily until the whole case is decided. If that's true, Frogwares is putting their foot in it, since any sales made while things are in question would be awarded to Frogwares as damages if they win. But pulling this stunt could damage their case because they are not complying with a court decision. However the whole case is very muddy with contradicting stories as to the official court rulings.
This is what worries me the most. Nacon is quite big company, they acquired several studios in a row, they should have money and legal advisors, why in the hell would they risk their money and reputation by putting illegal version of a game to Steam? What about Origin store and consoles, why it was not removed there? Unless they are absolutely crazy and for some reason recognize Sinking City as the absolute gem of the world best games I could hardly understand their motives. The only logical explanation I have is that their legal agreement with Frogwares have some favorable for them loopholes, meaning that even without the source code they could have all the other rights for the game.
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paladin181: This is the 3rd publisher Frogwares has had a virtually identical problem with, and at that point, one has to wonder if they are the shady ones trying to extort things from their publishers. Once, it's a bad day. Twice, and you say, ok. Really bad run of luck. Thrice, and it's a pattern.

I hope whoever is right wins.
And who is the third company? I remember they have problems with Focus Home over IP rights for Sherlock games which were resolved, that's one. And soon after they switched the publisher to Bigben Interactive, now Nacon, they get into this Sinking City mess, that's two.
I wonder if there is a pattern that French publishers are so *evil* who knows. There was a scandal with Focus Home over Aeon Must Die game from Limestone Games, always there was something about Ubisoft abusive behavior towards their workers mainly women, can't say anything about other game studios though. This is of course seems unlikely but could it be that big companies treat small studios and people badly just because they can, time will tell.
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paladin181: Rest assured that if Frogwares wins, any sales deemed to be fraudulent or illegal will go to them as damages awards from the courts. There is a mechanism in virtually all copyright law to accommodate this.
On paper, yes. However I don't believe in court system even in developed countries like France or the US. I would like to wait for a final decision no matter what.
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Cadaver747: What about Origin store and consoles, why it was not removed there? Unless they are absolutely crazy and for some reason recognize Sinking City as the absolute gem of the world best games I could hardly understand their motives. The only logical explanation I have is that their legal agreement with Frogwares have some favorable for them loopholes, meaning that even without the source code they could have all the other rights for the game.
Those versions are self-published by Frogwares themselves.
(except for PS4 and Xbox One).
Post edited March 03, 2021 by Grargar
The first game from the Studio "The mystery of the Mummy" was sold/distributed by "intermediates" Not sure about the names of those intermediates but the legal publisher was Wanadoo.

According to Wikipedia:

"In 2002, the distribution of the game Sherlock Holmes: The Mystery of the Mummy was made by intermediaries who did not pay the studio honestly: Frogwares filed several lawsuits against them"
Post edited March 03, 2021 by Gudadantza
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Cadaver747: And who is the third company? I remember they have problems with Focus Home over IP rights for Sherlock games which were resolved, that's one. And soon after they switched the publisher to Bigben Interactive, now Nacon, they get into this Sinking City mess, that's two.
Wanadoo. Small publisher accused of virtually the exact same things they accused Focus and BigBen/Nacon were, non-payment and IP problems.

I certainly hope this isn't a Frogwares problem.

As for the rest, buy from GamesPlanet then, that is Frogwares only official distributor right now. They want you to buy from there.
Otherwise, I don't blame you for waiting.
Post edited March 03, 2021 by paladin181
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paladin181: I certainly hope this isn't a Frogwares problem.
Considering how often this has happened to them, I doubt it's only a publisher-side problem. At the very least, whoever is in charge of signing those contracts for Frogwares can't be very good at it.
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paladin181: I certainly hope this isn't a Frogwares problem.
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Mr.Mumbles: Considering how often this has happened to them, I doubt it's only a publisher-side problem. At the very least, whoever is in charge of signing those contracts for Frogwares can't be very good at it.
That's my thoughts as well. At this point, I'll be shocked if they get a publisher on board in the near future for any prospective projects. Not saying they're at fault, but just the trouble they've been constantly associated with has to have put a stigma on them.
Atleast the name of game is pretty accurate
cant find letter M.G i m standing there but nothing ;/ maybea i shoud do some mission first,I need only this letter to finish
DONE
Post edited March 18, 2021 by tingas
An article, How Nacon Cracked and Pirated The Sinking City, for people who prefer to read than watch a video.
It’s Back on sale on steam again..
With gog files in the resists folder which is interesting.