It was changed because one particular retard said he didn't feel the original pose matched her character. Of course, the catch being that it was his his interpretation of what her character was, and not the artists'. They still removed because he will let her pre-teen daughter play this online game and it would turn her into a patriarchy worshiping prostitute is she saw that pose.
He isn't very smart either seeing he's not OK with showing his daughter videogame ass but is OK with showing her videogame violence in a role model character. Either way, he felt it needed to be changed, and since feelings are fact for these people, Blizzard did. Only problem being the new one looks exactly like a pinup model pose.

I would bet they might have done it intentionally when they realized their core audience was all OK with Tracer's butt. Maybe the fact that she looks like a pinup girl was intentional, but I did not want to spoil the fun in the post I put the link in.

See, I'm usually not interested in Blizzard games or even multiplayer shooters, but oh my god, Overwatch has such an incredibly fun design team behind it. How could anybody not fall in love? If every character wore androgynous military armor this game would only look like Destiny again.

The last patch to Overwatch dates March 22nd. Did they really already switch the pose?

I'm happy for you that you don't employ the seemingly universal strawman that this "one particular retard" was somehow enraged, spoke of “sexism” and of being “offended”. Because, yes of course, you've described his line of reasoning correctly, Tracer having visual traits of a sex symbol, which in fact doesn't fit her character. Plenty of 'sexy' characters remain in the game, like Widowmaker, no protest about that. Or would you say that absolutely every female character in the game needs to be flaunting her sexuality around?

As to the rest of your quite hateful evaluation, please do point me to the part in "the retard's" post where he says that
(a) his daughter is "pre-teen" and
(b) he lets her play Overwatch.
Thank you!

So you really do think that the developers reacted to a single respectful post in their forum, albeit from a "retard", with immediate universal self-censorship? I guess you're neither aware of how the developer has responded to that post, nor are you aware of the removal of a wank material gag from the beta when that last patch hit two weeks ago, signalling the developers' ample internal struggle about these design decisions way before the "retard's" forum post?


Here's an article about what factually is in the expansion, including knowledgeable insight into the Forgotten Realms setting and its prior usage of transgender characters. It's extremely difficult to ascertain how grave the bug situation really is, because user reviews are swarmed with political extremists with a firm belief in their nazist enemy concept. If we take out the user reviews explicitly naming said concept, we're still left with a lot that only name a trans character with 30 seconds screen time and, of course, a whole lot that signal "bad writing" without going into detail about any of that (i.e. possibly lacking the skill for a critique, though of course GOG still prevents reviews of any sensible length).

At the very least, GOG should have forbid reviews from non-owners of the expansion for a month. Because THIS is just pitiful.

The issue I have with this is

1) How would GOG know for certain that the "reviewer" doesn't have a copy, sure they may or may not have obtained here. there's other places where it's available.

2) the act of having this review "embargo" that you're suggesting IMHO would almost certainly be seen as being a very shady action that could cost GOG dearly.

I say this as one who has not acquired, played nor reviewed the expansion.

So you're saying you know objectively what the character of Tracer is and what she ''about'' and she's not definitely not about having the traits of a ''sex symbol''. What gives you the right to define what a character is about? What makes you think your interpretation of this is the true one and everyone else's is not? Is it obvious? And what about this sex symbol thing? What the fuck kind of progressive uses such an un-nuanced term used by puritans to describe ''harmful'' characters? Tracer's character, nor what is and is not a sex symbol is not for you to decide for others or claim as the objective truth.

And please, what is this? Character themes are this dumb? This is like pre-school kids saying the theme of a movie is ''struggle'' or ''love'' or whatever. You yourself claim complete subjectivity in game analysis yet you're pushing your own interpretation of the character as the only one that should be catered to.

I love how you use meaningless words like ''hateful'' in arguments. So cute.
a.He said ''little girl''
b.He describes how she looks up to her as a role model

So the removal of that is ample evidence you say that the developers are in full turmoil as to decide what is and is not fit to be included? Since you are such a good mind reader, then why did these confused developers respond to that post only with specific address to the points the poster made?

Its an article alright. But its always good to tag it as an opinion piece so you don't get as much flak when your ''article'' is blown full of holes. Such journofluid, much wow. Its a strawman article that focuses on the hate of people towards that particular character and argues lore-wise points against why that character is not bad writing. The article does not address the fact that a whole character's personality was changed, and several conversation replies from NPCs that people could have considered to be ''SJW''-ey. Or the fucking fact that MP doesn't work, its full of bugs and the interface looks like that of a smartphone game.

Aren't you calling your enemy ''nazi'' also feeding into your enemy concept?

Ahh well I didn't really follow the Siege of Dragonspear stuff, but is Mizhena an actual transgender, or just a guy that drank a potion to become a female '?(Or vice versa)

The second makes sense the first doesn't. Why would you actually try to Transfer to the sex you want to be, never really getting there, while you could just get some spell on you and become a fully functional being of the other sex ?
(Unless there is some economic xxplanation.)
If it is the second why in the world would you tell anyone about it ? For all accounts you are female at this point.

I can't remember Edwin in BG, but Elmister sex changed because it was required by Mystra as far as I remember.
He never was transsexual he was just a female with the mind of Elminster at that Point.

This and this amber chicks interview really make me want to stay away from the game as it reeks of agenda.

More importantly though, the chick said beamdog didn't like the writing of the first bg, anyone know if they did change anything in the dialogues ?
I bought the ed Editions but if they changed the scripts it might be time to look for a refund, after all the old editions work fine.

They legally can't change most of the old dialogue I think. But in the expansion there are some instances, but you'll have to ask someone who's played it through. AFAIK they aren't too frequent. Ask on the game forum here or on Steam, or ask a friend to watch a few lets plays for you and sample how frequently it happens from that friend.

..linking to sites like Gamasutra for actual game news....

Gamasutra

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*slow facepalm*

That link doesn't actually say anything bad about Gamasutra. It hosted an article you don't like... THE HORROR!
Boycotting Gamasutra because it hosted an article you don't like is like boycotting TED because someone gave a speech you don't like. It's completely illogical and counter productive. The idea of the site is to get opinion pieces from a wide range of people from the game industry or at least educated about it to comment on a wide range of subjects. Obviously that will involve stuff you don't like.

But if you want to lock yourself up in a bubble/safe space, go ahead and boycott any site that contains stuff you disagree with.

Keep reading. Below just that snippet is who has worked for them and what they did that wasn't right.

I'm not even part of a group that's trying to call for safe spaces everywhere because people disagree with me. Might wanna try that again.

I'm saying the developers do, and I'm saying that THEIR knowledge is being questioned, but certainly not by me. .

"Calling"? My "enemy"? Not sure what you're talking about.

But for the last time, please do evaluate what "SJW" means and especially the way the term is persistently used in this thread.

The SJW is a dehumanized, fascist enemy concept. It is a figure who attempts to achieve broad social change by voicing her invalid opinion in an exaggerated, stupid and hysteric way even though the ostensibly supported or protected group of people would not even like or profit from the social change in question. The SJW never possesses an overview of the topic at hand and argues for goals that are not important to her. She always demands censorship from the state as well as from the creatives. She is secretly organized in groups of people that think exactly alike. Ultimately, the SJW are creating a dystopian form of neo-communism that would destroy all our traditions and values. Their involvement especially destroys our art, and the art they themselves create is worthless and degenerate.

That is, right from beginning to end, the nazi concept of the "Underling" or "Untermensch", whatever political direction those who use the term may follow. So I can say that the concept is nazist, not the people who use it. Of course, the Daily Stormer loves the "SJW" label as well, i.e. it shouldn't come as a surprise that literal Nazis especially employ the nazist enemy concept.

So they had an employee that you don't like, therefore anything said on there should be avoided? Again how is that logical? Who worked for them is irrelevant to the content.

If boycotting anything that contains anything you disagree with or is written by a person you don't like, isn't creating a bubble/safe space, I don't know what is.

Making excuses and not even knowing how journalism works.. sounds about right for ya, I guess.

Lots of articles written and posted and not even checked for accuracy. That's a failing on the site itself and how little journalists can or will be trusted. Their job is based on trust.