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Post edited December 19, 2015 by noncompliantgame
We are fucked, we are so fucked unless we start making our moves. I think it is time to go on the offensive in stead of defending.
Wow Laura from the Jimqusition just intimidated a game dev for using the word ''tranny'' in the game title : https://twitter.com/LaurakBuzz/status/678520873725370368 and they did.
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Shadowstalker16: Wow Laura from the Jimqusition just intimidated a game dev for using the word ''tranny'' in the game title : https://twitter.com/LaurakBuzz/status/678520873725370368 and they did.
For information's sake, the game has been resubmitted on Greenlight. Here's the "revised" submission:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=579369967

I had seen the trailer before and I was more offended by the game in itself than the wordings. They could have made a kind of Xena-inspired game with Domino Presley instead....
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Rusty_Gunn: I'm overweight myself and I find this "fat pride" (that many SJW's seem to have) to be a VERY dangerous mindset to have
I have no problem with someone accepting themselves for being overweight. That doesn't mean to bury your head in the sand and deny it might be a problem. That's just being kind to yourself regardless of where you're at. If I smoked, I wouldn't be down on myself, but I might very well decide I should work on quitting.

There's this "Willfully be a mindless sheep" attitude that comes from a lot of groups that basically demand everybody think like them. That's always felt eerily dystopian, to me.
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Shadowstalker16: Wow Laura from the Jimqusition just intimidated a game dev for using the word ''tranny'' in the game title : https://twitter.com/LaurakBuzz/status/678520873725370368 and they did.
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catpower1980: For information's sake, the game has been resubmitted on Greenlight. Here's the "revised" submission:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=579369967

I had seen the trailer before and I was more offended by the game in itself than the wordings. They could have made a kind of Xena-inspired game with Domino Presley instead....
Well the sad thing here is not that the game is a shit... the sad thing here is people, like this girl, threaten someone for make a game FOR YOUR OWN GOOD, its a quote in this context, beyond any limit, much more than a direct insult, this threat is said by someone with relevance in the game industry, is a clear threat to the developer career, and it will be consider a reason to put this Laura in a Trial, as threat the possibilities of ruin the career of someone is similar to a death treat.
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MadOverlord.755: There's this "Willfully be a mindless sheep" attitude that comes from a lot of groups that basically demand everybody think like them. That's always felt eerily dystopian, to me.
indeed... it's not only the problem about those people wanting everyone to fit in "their" mold only, it is also the ways and methods they use to enforce such policy that gets me on my nerves

i like to say i live according to this motto "Me ? I'm on nobody's side, because no one is on mine..."
the more i "try" to read, and try to understand about the whole pro-gg/anti-gg and sjw can be summed up in a few facts:

1) i like the vivian james mascot :) (i cant resist a green eyed ginger lass, especially a gamer on top of that)
2) i already had to cope with some sort of hysterical angry sjw before, in my youth; was bullied and even physically assaulted (not only harassed) by some sjw on behalf of their moral values a relative of mine was "infringing" (not bothering to check if i was sharing his way). So i despide such kind of "modern" inquisition
3) if gamergate is a coin with two faces, i'm on the edge of the coin
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MadOverlord.755: There's this "Willfully be a mindless sheep" attitude that comes from a lot of groups that basically demand everybody think like them. That's always felt eerily dystopian, to me.
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Djaron: indeed... it's not only the problem about those people wanting everyone to fit in "their" mold only, it is also the ways and methods they use to enforce such policy that gets me on my nerves

i like to say i live according to this motto "Me ? I'm on nobody's side, because no one is on mine..."
the more i "try" to read, and try to understand about the whole pro-gg/anti-gg and sjw can be summed up in a few facts:

1) i like the vivian james mascot :) (i cant resist a green eyed ginger lass, especially a gamer on top of that)
2) i already had to cope with some sort of hysterical angry sjw before, in my youth; was bullied and even physically assaulted (not only harassed) by some sjw on behalf of their moral values a relative of mine was "infringing" (not bothering to check if i was sharing his way). So i despide such kind of "modern" inquisition
3) if gamergate is a coin with two faces, i'm on the edge of the coin
I knew I was not the only one who felt certain attraction to Vivian. Gingers are my type of girls, and green eyes are a good match on gingers (Not to mention I have green eyes too.)
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LeonardoCornejo:
It must be really confusing for anti gg

Many in gg think vivian looks like a great girl, yet she's nothing extreme, nothing unrealistic.
high rated
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LeonardoCornejo:
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dragonbeast: It must be really confusing for anti gg

Many in gg think vivian looks like a great girl, yet she's nothing extreme, nothing unrealistic.
Indeed. Yet still they hate her.
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MadOverlord.755: There's this "Willfully be a mindless sheep" attitude that comes from a lot of groups that basically demand everybody think like them. That's always felt eerily dystopian, to me.
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Djaron: indeed... it's not only the problem about those people wanting everyone to fit in "their" mold only, it is also the ways and methods they use to enforce such policy that gets me on my nerves

i like to say i live according to this motto "Me ? I'm on nobody's side, because no one is on mine..."
the more i "try" to read, and try to understand about the whole pro-gg/anti-gg and sjw can be summed up in a few facts:

1) i like the vivian james mascot :) (i cant resist a green eyed ginger lass, especially a gamer on top of that)
2) i already had to cope with some sort of hysterical angry sjw before, in my youth; was bullied and even physically assaulted (not only harassed) by some sjw on behalf of their moral values a relative of mine was "infringing" (not bothering to check if i was sharing his way). So i despide such kind of "modern" inquisition
3) if gamergate is a coin with two faces, i'm on the edge of the coin
You don't need to be a gamergate to embrace certain gamergate philosophy you identify with. In fact most people would side with logic and facts...... minus the people who acted on feelings rather then reality.
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Gnostic: You don't need to be a gamergate to embrace certain gamergate philosophy you identify with. In fact most people would side with logic and facts...... minus the people who acted on feelings rather then reality.
In part it seem to me that's what this is about, "Facts vs. Feelings".
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Djaron: indeed... it's not only the problem about those people wanting everyone to fit in "their" mold only, it is also the ways and methods they use to enforce such policy that gets me on my nerves

i like to say i live according to this motto "Me ? I'm on nobody's side, because no one is on mine..."
the more i "try" to read, and try to understand about the whole pro-gg/anti-gg and sjw can be summed up in a few facts:

1) i like the vivian james mascot :) (i cant resist a green eyed ginger lass, especially a gamer on top of that)
2) i already had to cope with some sort of hysterical angry sjw before, in my youth; was bullied and even physically assaulted (not only harassed) by some sjw on behalf of their moral values a relative of mine was "infringing" (not bothering to check if i was sharing his way). So i despide such kind of "modern" inquisition
3) if gamergate is a coin with two faces, i'm on the edge of the coin
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Gnostic: You don't need to be a gamergate to embrace certain gamergate philosophy you identify with. In fact most people would side with logic and facts...... minus the people who acted on feelings rather then reality.
Actually I hate the starting moment of GG, with all the Zoe Quinn thing, is ridiculous... she dint deserved to be criticized by her personal life or whatever she did with her sexuality, even if she "bought" any favor, something that we could also discuss if it is truth or NOT, but even being truth, sex is a TRADE TOOL since the f... beginning of times... and Zoe was unfairly harassed and insulted for this, instead of criticizing how CRAPPY her game was... that was the REAL point, the STUPIDS that focused in her personal life, give the perfect excuse to anti-GG to pursue them, so I cannot approve the beginning of GG for these things...

But what Anti-GG people did later, was seriously ridiculous and outrageous, and far beyond the line... starting with puting all Gamers in the same place, ashamed us, judge all of us, produce a Shitstorm vs. any kind of people, including women gamers, and gamer minorities that supposed to be in their "protecting" limits, that will not agree point by point with their infinite stupidity, get on the wave of stupidity in any other topics and fields, and start to make a Scientist cry for his Pinup Shirt instead of celebrating the achievement, censorship in universities, censorship in the internet, bullying and threaten people I AM A MEGAPHONE style... making their allies into ENEMIES, worrying more about the virtual world than the real issues, because HEY, MUSLIM WOMEN NEED TO BE RESPECTED FOR THEIR BELIEVES BUT DAMSELS IN DISTRESS IN VIDEO-GAMES ARE A BIG ISSUE... OH POOR PEACH!

And about religious "minorities" <---- minorities LOL ... need to be respected, but DAWKINGS is an asshole, said by the same people that believe that Manaras Spiderwoman ass is a big problem for our Society... (NO WONDERS THEY DEFEND PEOPLE THAT DEFEND BURKAS IF THEY GET ASHAMED BY AN ASS). People that make from a supposed threat a mountain, like OH I NEEDED TO LEAVE MY HOUSE... (Sarkesian Con Dramas) vs. the REAL disappearance of American Mcgee sister, but as he is a supporter of GG, nobody pushed this on their stupid "GAMERS ARE DEAD" publications. To make the situation even worse, I seen American being CRITICIZED for not "forgiving the threats of the guy that said to him "I WILL KILL YOU" (Even suggesting he knows he had a sister) when this same guy was later trying to help him to find his sister" yeah, I bet the woman who criticized American for this, were been so open to accept the help of a guy that said her first " I WILL KILL YOU " after an apologize and later try to help her for other issue... BECAUSE THEY ARE THE MORAL INQUISITORS, with the RIGHT to forgive or condemn without logic, or I should say... SJWLOGIC...

Etc... etc. etc... loooooooooooong... etc... the "left" is the new RIGHT, "FOR YOUR OWN GOOD TAKE THAT VIDEO OUT OF THE INTERNET..."
Post edited December 22, 2015 by YaTEdiGo
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Rusty_Gunn: In part it seem to me that's what this is about, "Facts vs. Feelings".
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Gnostic: You don't need to be a gamergate to embrace certain gamergate philosophy you identify with. In fact most people would side with logic and facts...... minus the people who acted on feelings rather then reality.
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YaTEdiGo: Actually I hate the starting moment of GG, with all the Zoe Quinn thing, is ridiculous... she dint deserved to be criticized by her personal life or whatever she did with her sexuality, even if she "bought" any favor, something that we could also discuss if it is truth or NOT, but even being truth, sex is a TRADE TOOL since the f... beginning of times... and Zoe was unfairly harassed and insulted for this, instead of criticizing how CRAPPY her game was... that was the REAL point, the STUPIDS that focused in her personal life, give the perfect excuse to anti-GG to pursue them, so I cannot approve the beginning of GG for these things...

But what Anti-GG people did later, was seriously ridiculous and outrageous, and far beyond the line... starting with puting all Gamers in the same place, ashamed us, judge all of us, produce a Shitstorm vs. any kind of people, including women gamers, and gamer minorities that supposed to be in their "protecting" limits, that will not agree point by point with their infinite stupidity, get on the wave of stupidity in any other topics and fields, and start to make a Scientist cry for his Pinup Shirt instead of celebrating the achievement, censorship in universities, censorship in the internet, bullying and threaten people I AM A MEGAPHONE style... making their allies into ENEMIES, worrying more about the virtual world than the real issues, because HEY, MUSLIM WOMEN NEED TO BE RESPECTED FOR THEIR BELIEVES BUT DAMSELS IN DISTRESS IN VIDEO-GAMES ARE A BIG ISSUE... OH POOR PEACH!

And about religious "minorities" <---- minorities LOL ... need to be respected, but DAWKINGS is an asshole, said by the same people that believe that Manaras Spiderwoman ass is a big problem for our Society... (NO WONDERS THEY DEFEND PEOPLE THAT DEFEND BURKAS IF THEY GET ASHAMED BY AN ASS). People that make from a supposed threat a mountain, like OH I NEEDED TO LEAVE MY HOUSE... (Sarkesian Con Dramas) vs. the REAL disappearance of American Mcgee sister, but as he is a supporter of GG, nobody pushed this on their stupid "GAMERS ARE DEAD" publications. To make the situation even worse, I seen American being CRITICIZED for not "forgiving the threats of the guy that said to him "I WILL KILL YOU" (Even suggesting he knows he had a sister) when this same guy was later trying to help him to find his sister" yeah, I bet the woman who criticized American for this, were been so open to accept the help of a guy that said her first " I WILL KILL YOU " after an apologize and later try to help her for other issue... BECAUSE THEY ARE THE MORAL INQUISITORS, with the RIGHT to forgive or condemn without logic, or I should say... SJWLOGIC...

Etc... etc. etc... loooooooooooong... etc... the "left" is the new RIGHT, "FOR YOUR OWN GOOD TAKE THAT VIDEO OUT OF THE INTERNET..."
At first I wonder where all these illogical anti gamers people come from. It seems ludicrous, that a whole cult of anti gamers people pop up like mushroom after rain from thin air.

I am lead to believe that corruption in journalist caused that. But then again, what's there to gain screaming so many video games are sexist / racist and some other absurd things that can hurt their own credibility. If they want to punish a game dev for not giving them advertisement money, won't it be more reasonable to claim the game is buggy, boring, used too much overused cliched plot and it will sound more believable? Why these journalist still exist when the majority of gamers go watch lets play video?

If one or two journalist claim that I can understand, but the mainstream media as a whole take the sexist route and being illogical makes me wonder where's the cultural shift comes from. Where all these "my feelings" people prop up from? Why I never heard of these masses before they grew to so big. Surely as they grew I will have heard of them, not overnight become so big / powerful to take over the mainstream media.

Then the million student march thingy prop up, and open to my eyes that Universities in US produced such irrational students. Then there's the high number of false rape accusation in Universities. Then there's the gender studies / lesbian studies I never heard of in my country universities. And feminism in its worst.

I connect the dots and it seems there is a large population in the west are indoctrinate into irrational thinking and entitlement. This movement hijacked feminism and made it a dirty word by perturbing injustice against men under the pretense of equality. It recently decide that it should take over the gaming media too to spread its gospel.

I may be wrong, but I think it is what happened, to have a huge mass of illogical sexist people overnight. It is less of more girls going into video games, but more feminist start to rear its ugly head in gaming. As what we see with education & job extra cash for girls with affirmative action. Instead of supply and demand, they want game devs to create game that cater to their political correctness immediately with shaming and underhand tactics.

What gamers faced now is not only journalist being irresponsible, but also the old monster that hijacked feminist. If it is just unethical journalist, why they don't go the way of the dodo when the majority of gamers don't trust them and go see lets play video? There is a huge movement supporting them like how TV and news media being overrun by the beast.
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LeonardoCornejo: We are fucked, we are so fucked unless we start making our moves. I think it is time to go on the offensive in stead of defending.
The problem is those in power and lulling us all to sleep. You know all this zombie culture shit? You wanna know the real reason behind it? It's a metaphor for the end of the decline of western civilization. That's what it is. The reason Joe Q Public is interested in zombies is because deep down they know we're all turning into lifeless consumer zombies. The symbolic truth of it should give us all a chill down our spine. When you think of the implications... it's not good, and there's going to be a hell of a hangover to wake up from.

Point being, by the time revolution becomes necessary, it has become nullified by a cultural static that puts everyone to sleep. The strongest reaction we can summon is a flame war in a chat room or some petty Twitter comments. And we'll probably outsource or automate those too. Because as humans, we're collectively being trained to be voyeuristic and passive even with our own lives. The agencies of the State and their pals in commerce require domesticity. They demand obedient cattle. And if they can keep us divided over social justice and who gets the cream from the milk bottle... all the better. Ordo Ab Chao.

Estan Vivos. Nosotros dormimos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V-4JHT2q3w

Those lines of dialogue in that fictional movie have more merit than anything said by Anita Sarkeesian.