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RWarehall
Again you misunderstand what patriarchy is. Like I said, women's rights have done a lot to make things better for women in terms of new laws, but we haven't unlearned some things from days when women didn't have those rights. We have the wage gap to contend with, and reproductive rights are still under attack.

Is it true that things are better for women today than were 60 years ago? Yes, but that doesn't that we can't do better. No argument from authority is going to change.

Also if by "read more history" you mean "just go to wikipedia," than no I won't. I'll go get it from sources like New Scientest thank you very much.

Rusty_Gunn
Well, the baggage we should shed would be stuff like racism, sexism, wanton violence towards others be it physical or emotional, absolutism, and stuff the leads to income inequality, and needless warfare.
Post edited November 17, 2015 by ryannaughton1138
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ryannaughton1138: Gnostic
There is so much wrong here that needs to be unpacked that I don't know where to begin.

First of all, what does the Titanic disaster have to do with the existence of patriarchy? And even if you did have some kind of point it is undone by the fact that reason for women and children being the majority of survivors was down to pure chance. The whole "women and children first" thing is a myth. Most likely the result of a miscommunication between Captain Smith, and his officers.

Also there are quiet a few feminists are in favor of no fault divorces as well as many of the other points that have a negative impact on men. If your understanding of feminism is just by going on tumblr, and pointing to those who disagree with you as evil, than you have much to learn my friend.

Also you using a meme to support your argument is kind of pathetic.
Errr....... don't you realize you kind of proof my meme with your post?

By saying whatever you want about Titanic without checking history and facts?


Regarding feminists, I would like to apologized. I had painted feminists with a broad stroke and equate them to Traditional feminist with Modern feminist.

I have no problems with traditional feminist that support real equality and can make logical reasoning with reality and facts. I just don't like the absurdity of the SJW, We really need traditional feminist movement for the immigrant of Syria where they can discriminate women officers, but instead we get SJW that tried to shut down the rape of one of their own in the name of progressiveness.
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ryannaughton1138: RWarehall
Again you misunderstand what patriarchy is. Like I said, women's rights have done a lot to make things better for women in terms of new laws, but we haven't unlearned some things from days when women didn't have those rights. We have the wage gap to contend with, and reproductive rights are still under attack.

Is it true that things are better for women today than were 60 years ago? Yes, but that doesn't that we can't do better. No argument from authority is going to change.

Also if by "read more history" you mean "just go to wikipedia," than no I won't. I'll go get it from sources like New Scientest thank you very much.

Rusty_Gunn
Well, the baggage we should shed would be stuff like racism, sexism, wanton violence towards others be it physical or emotional, absolutism, and stuff the leads to income inequality, and needless warfare.
1) I don't agree that we should "unlearn" ie forget. what we should do is learn from our mistakes & do better.

gender wage gap: that has been so thoroughly debunked numerous times & when it is shown that women are making more than men SocJus types tend to say it's "low" as if to say "women need more."

reproductive rights: Yes, Male reproductive rights are severely lacking given men pretty much have no say in the matter & can even be made responsible for a child that isn't their's
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ryannaughton1138: monkeydelarge
Ah, yes the shadowy elites that secretly control the world. You know, using lingo that's popular with many conspiracy theorists isn't helping you convince this isn't anything but conspiracy theory babel.
So nobody tries to control the world? There is no tactical advantage from secrecy? And people never join forces to conspire against other people? Sounds like an amazing fantasy world you live in.
Post edited November 17, 2015 by monkeydelarge
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ryannaughton1138: RWarehall
Again you misunderstand what patriarchy is. Like I said, women's rights have done a lot to make things better for women in terms of new laws, but we haven't unlearned some things from days when women didn't have those rights. We have the wage gap to contend with, and reproductive rights are still under attack.

Is it true that things are better for women today than were 60 years ago? Yes, but that doesn't that we can't do better. No argument from authority is going to change.
Wage gap? What wage gap? You mean the exaggerated one based on the worst statistics one can come up with? The fact that many women choose to stay at home with their children or choose to work part time or choose to work lower paying jobs with extremely flexible schedules and this sets all womankind behind in terms of dollars earned vs. men? If you account for these choices, the so-called wage gap virtually doesn't exist

Try looking up "Wage gap myth" and look at the real statistics...

Or reproductive rights meaning now that we have drugs and operations which allow one to abort a growing child.
While I personally support abortion rights, the better option is not to get pregnant in the first place. It certainly shouldn't be a slam dunk that anyone has a right to kill a child in a womb. But I'm sure it makes it sound better to act like the whole argument is about patriarchy against women and not an attempt to protect unborn children...these woman hating bastards instead of those overly protective of other's children...

I think you are the one who has no clue about patriarchy, because all it seems to be is an excuse not to discuss the real issues and dismiss any real debate. La la la...you are a man...I'm not listening...la la la.
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ryannaughton1138: walpurgis8199

I fail to see your point.
And there in a neat little nutshell is why it's a complete and total waste of human time, energy and effort to attempt to engage you in any serious debate. A brief survey of your posts demonstrate, factually, that you're a fourth rate agent provocateur armed with the most rudimentary and intellectually bankrupt doctrine, incapable not only of any depth of thought but unable to even maintain any honest argument - even at your appallingly low standard.Time and again you either twist what someone else has said or fabricate (or perhaps hallucinate?) a statement they never made, anchoring your retorts in the same said fantasy.

As to the scare words "conspiracy theory" - used to make people shut the f*ck up and keep their heads down and acquiesce to the sort of vile doctrine your ilk obediently regurgitate. The so called "conspiracies", let us just put it this way - if you don't understand that very wealthy and powerful people for all intents and purposes "run" the world and that some of them maybe, just from time to time, do get together and attempt to manipulate and control the world to their own advantage without care or consultation to we, the people, then you're in an even worse condition, mentally and emotionally, than the cognitively dissonant low grade propaganda you're peddling would have otherwise indicated.


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monkeydelarge: So nobody tries to control the world? There is no tactical advantage from secrecy? And people never join forces to conspire against other people? Sounds like an amazing fantasy world you live in.
Very timely interview with "<i>Technocracy Rising</i>" author Patrick Wood by climate change denier :-o, 911'er :-o and all round tinfoil crazy conspiracy theorist James Corbet.
You know ... it's kinda funny how people still throw those words around thinking it'll force people to shut the f*ck up. THe fascinating thing is that in my experience, both online and irl, it's the same people who support the so called "social justice" and neofem brand of politicking that fear and attack anyone who questions the official gov't and corporate stories issued thru the MSM. Go figure.
Post edited November 17, 2015 by noncompliantgame
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ryannaughton1138: RWarehall
Again you misunderstand what patriarchy is. Like I said, women's rights have done a lot to make things better for women in terms of new laws, but we haven't unlearned some things from days when women didn't have those rights. We have the wage gap to contend with, and reproductive rights are still under attack.

Is it true that things are better for women today than were 60 years ago? Yes, but that doesn't that we can't do better. No argument from authority is going to change.

Also if by "read more history" you mean "just go to wikipedia," than no I won't. I'll go get it from sources like New Scientest thank you very much.

Rusty_Gunn
Well, the baggage we should shed would be stuff like racism, sexism, wanton violence towards others be it physical or emotional, absolutism, and stuff the leads to income inequality, and needless warfare.
Two things, first, the wage gap is a myth. I mean, it is not even logycal. If you could pay less to a person for the same job just because they have a vagina in stead of a penis, no men would be hired anymore.


Second, Do you realy believe anyone here would use Wikipedia as a credible source in social issues? Wikipedia is infested with SJWs and political agendas altering the truth.
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monkeydelarge
So shadowy cabals are more believable than feminist critics being harassed for what they believe? This really doesn't really disprove my point.

RWarehall
Saying that the wage gap is a myth is a big misrepresentation of what it is. To quote Pamela Coukos, "If high school girls are discouraged from taking the math and science classes that lead to high-paying STEM jobs, shouldn’t we in some way count that as a lost equal earnings opportunity?"
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ryannaughton1138: monkeydelarge
So shadowy cabals are more believable than feminist critics being harassed for what they believe? This really doesn't really disprove my point.

RWarehall
Saying that the wage gap is a myth is a big misrepresentation of what it is. To quote Pamela Coukos, "If high school girls are discouraged from taking the math and science classes that lead to high-paying STEM jobs, shouldn’t we in some way count that as a lost equal earnings opportunity?"
You didn't have a point to begin with because Anita's harassers weren't from #gg

No we shouldn't. Questioning a baseless theory and forcing kids not to talk about maths is completely different lol. And if a few lines of criticism put off these future Einsteins; they weren't going to be really achieving anything anyway; at least they probably won't be more than a token woman in STEM to appease people like you.
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ryannaughton1138: monkeydelarge
So shadowy cabals are more believable than feminist critics being harassed for what they believe? This really doesn't really disprove my point.

RWarehall
Saying that the wage gap is a myth is a big misrepresentation of what it is. To quote Pamela Coukos, "If high school girls are discouraged from taking the math and science classes that lead to high-paying STEM jobs, shouldn’t we in some way count that as a lost equal earnings opportunity?"
Tell that to my sister and many women like her who decided to take careers in high paying STEM fields. Do you even have an idea of how many women take fields such as medicine and veterinary medicine? Women are just interested in different things than men. It is no one's fault. It is no one's fault that women would rather save lives than design airplanes. And certainly it is no ones fault that women prefer to be clercks in stead of working in a boring cubicle with little to no contact with humans. You know who actually scares women from STEM? Feminists do, they tell them they are rejected there, they tell them STEM is a boy's club, and then tell them to join a gender studies major. If women decided to join STEM majors in stead of stupid liberal and feminist degrees trust me the world would be a much better place and men would enjoy it more. Why would we want to encourage women to do something that harms us?
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Shadowstalker16
That's funny. I'm pretty sure a number of Anita's harassers have used the Gamergate hastag.

LeonardoCornejo
That doesn't magically disprove the wage gap. It's more complex than that.
Post edited November 18, 2015 by ryannaughton1138
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I wish I was lying when I show you this:

http://36.media.tumblr.com/cd95f751e7828148f66a6344bfa77598/tumblr_nxxch5NMcL1re1sgdo1_540.png

http://41.media.tumblr.com/230ac828259d1d2a2e719349d803f030/tumblr_nxx9ebJB0R1qawplno1_1280.png

Please someone fire this author and ban him from anyform of Journalism.
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Elmofongo: I wish I was lying when I show you this:

http://36.media.tumblr.com/cd95f751e7828148f66a6344bfa77598/tumblr_nxxch5NMcL1re1sgdo1_540.png

http://41.media.tumblr.com/230ac828259d1d2a2e719349d803f030/tumblr_nxx9ebJB0R1qawplno1_1280.png

Please someone fire this author and ban him from anyform of Journalism.
Kotaku promtly busted this myth: http://kotaku.com/reporting-error-leads-to-speculation-that-terrorists-us-1742791584
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ryannaughton1138: RWarehall
Again you misunderstand what patriarchy is. Like I said, women's rights have done a lot to make things better for women in terms of new laws, but we haven't unlearned some things from days when women didn't have those rights. We have the wage gap to contend with, and reproductive rights are still under attack.
There is no wage gap in the US. The difference between what men and women make for doing the same job is within the margin for error. Last figure I saw had a difference of about 3%, which is easily accounted for with choices that people make. At work, my benefits package makes up almost as much money per hour as my actual salary does. So, 3% is pretty measly.

That Patriarchy is just a bogeyman that feminists use because their arguments have little to no merit.

As far as reproductive rights go, women should shut the hell up. At least they have reproductive rights to be attacked. Men do not have any reproductive rights.
Archived version for those interested

This & the other incident (guy 'shopped as a terrorist) to me shows that journalistic ethics issues extends beyond entertainment media