Firstly, these things aren't dildos or sex toys, as someone else has already pointed; they are devices that serve to provide psychological assistance for trans people who are experiencing discomfort with their bodies, as well as (depending on the model, from what I can tell) allowing someone without a penis to be better able to pee while standing. Their existence isn't indicative of intent to sexually abuse kids.

Secondly, and most importantly, I've checked the link provided and the article it links to, and I feel exceedingly secure in calling bullshit on that rambling diatribe after the link. Both of the articles are solely about the fact that packers exist. That's it. There is not so much as a single suggestion that I can find that children should be taken out of their homes in the fashion you have described, let alone that they will be taken out of the home in order to be sexually abused as some sort of fucked up 'recruitment' effort.

This is baseless fearmongering which is sadly all too familiar as it is the sort of rubbish about 'the gays' coming to molest kids to make them gay that was thrown around when gay people started having the gall to demand that society stop screwing them over and to maybe give them the same civil rights as everyone else. The fact that this kind of cracked out 'sjw' conspiracy theory bollocks is what this thread inevitably keeps coming back to is doing nothing to help GG's image, and is doing everything to reinforce just how awful it looks to everyone else.

I'm sorry but this kind of nonsense is just as bad as what SWJs write about gamers. It's NOT a dildo - it's a device designed for girls to be able to pretend to be boys by peeing upright + giving them a "bulge" in their pants which makes it a whole lot less fucked up if you ask me. Also, the website clearly states "from 5 to 12" so where does the 4 year old come into it (not to mention 5 year olds are toddlers, not babies)? I think the idea is pretty weird as-is without having to make up lies and exaggerating things.
Seems we wrote a similar reply at the same time - glad I'm not the only one who won't fall for sensationalist nonsense like this.

This is rather interesting, the letter itself has a lot of information left out of it that would be relevant to forming an opinion. Without more information, it's hard to know if those are legitimate hires or token minorities in case something like this comes up.

But, given that they're threatening a lawsuit, I'm guessing that it's more than a token amount of employees and that they're comfortable having them called as witnesses.

So, who knows.

OTOH, this is a bit of a diversion from their own problems.
You're right, these aren't sex toys. But, 4 year olds have a pretty limited sense of sex and gender to begin with. Introducing these things into the environment runs the risk of causing more harm than good. How does a child explain to the other children if it pops out on the playground?

Also, this is a rather impressionable age for children, it's easy to accidentally push a child in the direction of thinking they're trans when the child might just be a tomboy or effeminate and more in need of toys and clothing that are more appropriate to that than prosthetic genitalia.

I was bathing with female friends at that age and there was nothing about it that seemed weird. The actual body differences between a 4 year old boy and a 4 year old girl are pretty much just genitals and in most cases children don't even ascribe importance to that.

You're right, these are not sex toys, but let's be honest, the biggest market for these things will be pedophiles who will be using them as sex toys. And that's not even going into whether teaching little children about sexuality and getting to doubt their identity from the start will mess them up for the rest of their lives. It's like the story of David Reimer all over again.

And while it may sound like paranoia, the pedo lobby is real, they are just more shy about it for now. You can already see the push for pedo acceptance coming from SJW outlets:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBx7h9zhbYw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4JECfzr6QQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N8hyR4uakA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzAIh3C8dYQ

They are painting pedophiles as the victims of society, like not all pedophiles are child molesters. That's technically correct, but it's the same slippery slope as what the gay lobby has been using for decades. And no, the slippery slope is not a fallacy, it's real. It started out as not attacking people for being gay, and I think that's fair enough, everyone can get behind that. But now we have gay traffic lights and crosswalks. Just WFT, I'm even not joking.

This. This is exactly my worry.
I agree. But SJWs don't even understand the David Reimer case. It is the absolute proof that gender is not a social construct and that making your child trans (Something some SJWs want to do) is a depraved act.

Please, do elaborate how flaccid, floppy, fake penises can be used as sex toys in any way that could be used to harm a kid. Penetrative sex? I've seen one of these things in person (a friend of mine owns one for its intended, non-child molesty uses), and I can tell you that is physically impossible. The material that these things are made of is very yielding. Try imagining someone with a severe cases of impotence trying to insert a non-erect penis (or, if you don't have one, a bundle of cooked spaghetti noodles bundled parallel to each other) into anything; that should give you an idea of how useless a packer would be for that when compared to any number of things that are actually designed for that purpose.

This whole bit about packers being mainly used by pedophiles is purely baseless conjecture. You have presented no data to indicate that these things are being used by pedophiles to harm children, let alone that the demand with that demographic would outweigh the intended audience.

Congratulations, you found one use that they could be used for (theoretically; again, being flaccid, you would have to work to do even that)... as well as virtually any remotely phallic device on earth. Which begs the question why anyone would sink that kind of money into a specialty good as opposed to any number of things that could be used for that purpose, down to a breakfast sausage; hell, a breakfast sausage would probably be an improvement as far as sex toys go.

Hmmm, why don't you counter the more important argument about child brainwashing and indoctrination? Oh wait, you can't.

And trust me, that thing resembles a child penis more than the things you mentioned, just like some crude dildos resemble a penis more than the very same objects you mentioned, again, there is at least one model which is fucking erct.


to everyone else, I got something for you guys.

https://youtu.be/9F2TGwDgoAE

Go to minute 19 (approx) and you will find out how pandering to a dellusion is very, very, very, very harmful.It can relad to someone pouring bleach in the eyes of a healthy person.

More like I don't want to give myself a stroke. I've seen enough of the conduct in this thread to know that the regulars are determined to find some way in which them evil SJWs are going to harm kids, to the point that any attempt to discuss the nuances of gender identity and to what unlikely extent people would actively try to convince children that they are actually trans when they aren't would be a waste of breath.

But really, as this thread keeps proving, it's actually about ethics in games journalism.

Right, because shoving your gender insecurities into children who are yet to discover themselves in stead of leting them do so is going to help. And because supporting a dellusion even when it becomes dysfunctional is just fine.

I have literally seen people on Dumblr claiming their 3 year old is trans, a fucking toddler whit limited perception of the world. Or even worse trying to make sure their newborn baby does not become "cis". Realy, the whole "gender" thing is getting quite sickening right now and is bordering in insanity.

And by the way, thank you for treating all GG supporters as some sort of hivemind, of course, my opinion can't be mine or based on my own expereince, no, I must think that way because I support GG. Awesome. But wait, isn't aGG which becomes violent if someone does not follow their collective opinion? As with Btianna I Want More Attention Wu.


picture related.

for me that's part of what all this is about. another is keeping creative expression alive ie not attacking devs over a silly limerick or criticizing Doom 4 harshly because it's a violent game.

just like movies, not all games are for everyone

Maybe you are just a bit reading impaired, that link had a packer designed for children 4 to 8 as one of the options. So yes, there are sick people trying to convince their 4-8 year-old girls they should be boys...

What I find surprising is how we now have two people on this forum who don't seem to have a problem with these things intended for use by 4 to 8 year-olds...

I mean seriously 4 years old? The one article linked talked about a 6 year old? I'm sorry, but that IS child abuse! And if you think otherwise, you have a screw loose...

Found a great argument. If Lizzy's reporting of SC's working conditions was unethical; what of the Konami slavery allegations pushed freely by media with even less proof and with lesser anonymous sources?

Keep it classy about the pedo stuff guys. I didn't read the last few posts as much as just skimmed through a few but thoughts aren't bad (enough) until they become actions but anyone who endorses action or ''pro contact pedophilia'' is worthy of criminal prosecution.

Keeping gender identity and dildos(?) in mind; lets remember children below puberty are not sexual beings and even afterwards require at least a certain level of mental maturity afterwards. Even Freud's classification puts the genital stage of development at the teens / puberty age. So how can someone without proper development of gender determining organs and proper regulation and secretion of sex hormones have a gender? Nothing will be well developed enough so I think people should stop trying gender kids a few seconds after birth and continually push identity politics down their throat before they're ready.
So you think people without properly functioning sex organs can have as strong a gender identity as post puberty adults?
Sure, mock this thread. But would you rather have this thread for all the chan level stuff or have pedo and trans topics on the general forum everyday?

It's funny you call me reading impaired when you then jump to the conclusion that I don't have a problem with this being used for young kids when I already wrote "I think the idea is pretty weird as-is without having to make up lies and exaggerating things." Now who's reading impaired huh? (Hint: YOU!)

My point was that the article lied and exaggerated and I refuse to stoop to SJW levels - I like my facts to be true, thank you very much.