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Some things to note on suicide and its relations to bullying :

-One particular post on the internet or a chat message doesn't cause a healthy person to commit suicide. Suicide cannot be said to be caused by one instance of someone bullying someone else. Its like a meter that fills up and even the final straw that makes the person cross may not be all that hurtful but pushes the sad person over the edge.

-For someone to bully someone else into suicide; the bully will have to do continuous harassment over maybe months to do so; and I don't think anyone is so willing to do that if they wanted someone dead rather than just get a weapon and go kill the person themselves.

-Saying a group is responsible for someone committing suicide is just Fox News level pseudo-intellectual alarmist mental incapacity. Seriously; a movement has nothing better to do than feed their ''transphobia'' by killing people ONE AT A TIME? OVER MONTHS OR MORE? What kinda thing as to happen to your brain to consider that?

-Again; if someone blindly hates a movement and is too dumb to find a reason, just hate it for its own sake and don't try to make up some world changing news that a person was forced to read bullying tweets and because his entire life was twitter was forced to commit suicide but the bullies did it so they're murderers and some shit? Like, seriously? What mental hoop jumping is done in forming such conclusions?

If this gamergate suicide guy is to be believed; Toyotomi Hideyoshi is responsible for the death of Oda Nobunaga! 12 / 10 logic.
Regarding the whole suicide stuff, I look into the statistics I'm coming across and the gender gap there still seems to be growing although it is huge for ages already.
Men succesfully commit suice 3.0 to 7.5 times that of women depending on the country (Germany was also a bit over 3 last time I checked). I've never found a suicide statistic that doesn't have at least 3 times as much dead males than females.

This happens when you generally declare men as perpretrators, deny them any help or moral support if they are in distress and throw them out of their social environment the moment they lose a job:
http://www.mindframe-media.info/for-media/reporting-suicide/facts-and-stats
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/feb/19/number-of-suicides-uk-increases-2013-male-rate-highest-2001
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide#Gender_paradox
http://www.bcmj.org/articles/silent-epidemic-male-suicide
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jan/21/suicide-gender-men-women-mental-health-nick-clegg

The more you know...
Sorry for the facts.
Post edited August 13, 2015 by Klumpen0815
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Klumpen0815: Regarding the whole suicide stuff, I look into the statistics I'm coming across and the gender gap there still seems to be growing although it is huge for ages already.
Men succesfully commit suice 3.0 to 7.5 times that of women depending on the country (Germany was also a bit over 3 last time I checked). I've never found a suicide statistic that doesn't have at least 3 times as much dead males than females.

This happens when you generally declare men as perpretrators, deny them any help or moral support if they are in distress and throw them out of their social environment the moment they lose a job:
http://www.mindframe-media.info/for-media/reporting-suicide/facts-and-stats
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/feb/19/number-of-suicides-uk-increases-2013-male-rate-highest-2001
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide#Gender_paradox
http://www.bcmj.org/articles/silent-epidemic-male-suicide
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jan/21/suicide-gender-men-women-mental-health-nick-clegg

The more you know...
Sorry for the facts.
I don't necessarily disagree, but the main reason why men successfully complete their attempts more than women is that men are more likely to choose things that won't fail. Things like putting a gun in their mout rather than swallowing a bottle of pills.

In other words, once men decide that they're going to kill themselves, they're much less likely to fail because they do it right. In this part of the world, they're also more likely to have a gun on hand anyways, regardless of their tendencies.
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Klumpen0815: Regarding the whole suicide stuff, I look into the statistics I'm coming across and the gender gap there still seems to be growing although it is huge for ages already.
Men succesfully commit suice 3.0 to 7.5 times that of women depending on the country (Germany was also a bit over 3 last time I checked). I've never found a suicide statistic that doesn't have at least 3 times as much dead males than females.

This happens when you generally declare men as perpretrators, deny them any help or moral support if they are in distress and throw them out of their social environment the moment they lose a job:
http://www.mindframe-media.info/for-media/reporting-suicide/facts-and-stats
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/feb/19/number-of-suicides-uk-increases-2013-male-rate-highest-2001
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide#Gender_paradox
http://www.bcmj.org/articles/silent-epidemic-male-suicide
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jan/21/suicide-gender-men-women-mental-health-nick-clegg

The more you know...
Sorry for the facts.
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hedwards: I don't necessarily disagree, but the main reason why men successfully complete their attempts more than women is that men are more likely to choose things that won't fail. Things like putting a gun in their mout rather than swallowing a bottle of pills.

In other words, once men decide that they're going to kill themselves, they're much less likely to fail because they do it right. In this part of the world, they're also more likely to have a gun on hand anyways, regardless of their tendencies.
Also the work environment of men is more demanding, custody laws are rigged against men, alimony, child support, debts. Well, there are many more good reasons for a dude to want to die (or at least fake his death) than for women.
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hedwards: I don't necessarily disagree, but the main reason why men successfully complete their attempts more than women is that men are more likely to choose things that won't fail. Things like putting a gun in their mout rather than swallowing a bottle of pills.

In other words, once men decide that they're going to kill themselves, they're much less likely to fail because they do it right. In this part of the world, they're also more likely to have a gun on hand anyways, regardless of their tendencies.
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LeonardoCornejo: Also the work environment of men is more demanding, custody laws are rigged against men, alimony, child support, debts. Well, there are many more good reasons for a dude to want to die (or at least fake his death) than for women.
Head injuries are also a problem.

In general though, men aren't particularly well valued in Western society unless you happen to have a huge amount of money.
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LeonardoCornejo: Also the work environment of men is more demanding, custody laws are rigged against men, alimony, child support, debts. Well, there are many more good reasons for a dude to want to die (or at least fake his death) than for women.
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hedwards: Head injuries are also a problem.

In general though, men aren't particularly well valued in Western society unless you happen to have a huge amount of money.
Humans in general are treated like shit unless they have money. Men seem to have it worse latelly because they get little public support, and the media kind of demonizes them. But in general the real panorama is that if you don't have money you are as good as dead.
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Has anybody seen this yet? http://gamepolitics.com/2015/08/12/challenge-accepted-interviewing-internet-hashtag#.VczmOlLgwRA

Probably the best article I've seen on GG. It at least gets to the core of what people are thinking about it. I know I agree with most of it and the journalist actually went out of his way to do the right thing.
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The Ghazelles banned him lol. Something to hide?
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Shadowstalker16: The Ghazelles banned him lol. Something to hide?
what got me about that was the reason for the banning

-too much time in the "gamergate" section
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Here's Some News: Dutch game journalist writes about two actual conflicts of interest, Rami's spaghetti goes everywhere, calls journalist a "conspiracy theorist".

From Reddit:

One radio game reviewer works in a VG store, while another magazine/tv reviewer who reviewed Uncharted 3 also wrote PR for the game.

From FB: "Sometimes you see someone you once respected go from 'pointed biting criticism' to 'cynic' to 'troll' to 'conspiracy theorist'.
It's both fascinating and terrifying to watch how a single bit of criticism aimed at someone can hurt their probably rather fragile ego so much that they feel that personal hurt trumps actual, proven and real problems affecting hundreds of good, innocent people.
At that point, I guess it's logical that people need a made-up reality to feel like they belong somewhere, or to feel good about themselves.
Sad stuff to lose a person who once had a sharp eye for this industry to stuff like that. Shows we've got a long way to make sure our industry -no, our world- deals with harassment issues properly. It doesn't just protect the victims. It protects everyone. "
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Shadowstalker16: The Ghazelles banned him lol. Something to hide?
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Rusty_Gunn: what got me about that was the reason for the banning

-too much time in the "gamergate" section
I'm sorry son; but you spent too much time in the wastelands and we can't risk admitting an infected.


Author Anne Rice on her support (!) of KiA : https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153606619520452&id=66435815451
Post edited August 14, 2015 by Shadowstalker16
I've looked up hashtag gamergate vaguely a couple of times, I still don't know wtf it means or care.
If anyone wanted to know how much GG harasses; its 0.65% : http://techraptor.net/content/wam-bam-narrative-dead

GG timeline : https://wiki.gamergate.me/index.php?title=Timeline
About GG : https://wiki.gamergate.me/index.php?title=GamerGate
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dewy60: Here's Some News: Dutch game journalist writes about two actual conflicts of interest, Rami's spaghetti goes everywhere, calls journalist a "conspiracy theorist".
Its to be expected. Rami has been an aGG for a long time now. And in the typical aGG way, reporting a conflict of interest makes you a woman hating gator and delusional conspiracy theorist.

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bad_fur_day1: I've looked up hashtag gamergate vaguely a couple of times, I still don't know wtf it means or care.
60 second summary
Post edited August 14, 2015 by dragonbeast
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dewy60: Here's Some News: Dutch game journalist writes about two actual conflicts of interest, Rami's spaghetti goes everywhere, calls journalist a "conspiracy theorist".
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dragonbeast: Its to be expected. Rami has been an aGG for a long time now. And in the typical aGG way, reporting a conflict of interest makes you a woman hating gator and delusional conspiracy theorist.

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bad_fur_day1: I've looked up hashtag gamergate vaguely a couple of times, I still don't know wtf it means or care.
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dragonbeast: 60 second summary
Even shorter version... there's a movement (SJWs) that thinks that if you play video games (particularly violent ones) that you're a hi-tech ISIS terrorist. Because you like to indulge in gaming, you are therefore a debased, belligerent psycho who hates women, wants to lynch black people, and are a homophobic, transphobic, caveman of a human being. Those people want us to stop gaming and leave it to them to turn gaming into a virtual PSA tour with QTEs explaining the horrors of manspreading and pew-pew fuego games.