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dragonbeast: relevant?
Maybe he's not all that bad..........................?
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dragonbeast: relevant?
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Shadowstalker16: Maybe he's not all that bad..........................?
I'm really offended by his role regarding the extended hunt for whistleblowers, Guantanamo Bay, assassinations of political enemies in their own countries via drones and other things...
Post edited April 10, 2015 by Klumpen0815
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dragonbeast: relevant?
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Brasas: Given what happened in that pizza joint in, was it Indiana? I guess I can hope our shining beacon on the hill noticed how the pendulum has swung too far. I expect polling had something to do with it. Afterall this is the man that was perfectly ok to prejudge that police officer some years back, leading to the memorable beer summit. Anyway, thanks Obama! ;)
I have a sneaking suspicion that Mr Barack Obama and your good self have very different views on the kind of people who would fit within the definition of "somebody who's sensibilities need to be offended".
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Wow.
Transphobic bullshit in a Gamergate thread.

What a non-surprise.
(They do a really great job of failing to demonstrate any ethical concerns whatsoever for their own behaviour, don't they?)
Post edited April 10, 2015 by SusurrusParadox
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SusurrusParadox: Transphobic bullshit in a Gamergate thread.
Coming from a KKK member... How do I know you are a KKK member? I just know, I mean I don't have any proof or anything, but what I have learned from Social Justice is that you can accuse anyone of any atrocity without any proof. So progressive.
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SusurrusParadox: Wow.
Transphobic bullshit in a Gamergate thread.

What a non-surprise.
(They do a really great job of failing to demonstrate any ethical concerns whatsoever for their own behaviour, don't they?)
Where's the Transphobic bullshit? Ah yes, that's what's been missing here lately - completely unsubstantiated declarative sentences. Hello hatemonger. Bye-bye hatemonger. <@:^D+<
son as some of you may (not) know, there currently is a gg hashtag going around #areyoublocked to raise awareness of the blockbots. Although Randi Harper claimed it was not going to have any effect, they got it trending and even some SJW jumped on it
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Shadowstalker16: Maybe he's not all that bad..........................?
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Klumpen0815: I'm really offended by his role regarding the extended hunt for whistleblowers, Guantanamo Bay, assassinations of political enemies in their own countries via drones and other things...
Yah; and a thousand other things. Too bad people hate him enough to downrep sarcasm about him.

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HiPhish: Coming from a KKK member... How do I know you are a KKK member? I just know, I mean I don't have any proof or anything, but what I have learned from Social Justice is that you can accuse anyone of any atrocity without any proof. So progressive.
Absolutely man. The age of evidence and reason was a few years ago. Now emotion runs justice; not evidence and logic. Jeez; thought you'd have abandoned those primitive ideals by now. I mean, proof, logic, reason, even having logical basis before calling someone out? You need a vial of progression man!
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htown1980: I have a sneaking suspicion that Mr Barack Obama and your good self have very different views on the kind of people who would fit within the definition of "somebody who's sensibilities need to be offended".
Why suspicion? No doubt we have very different views.
I don't think anyone's sensibilities need to be offended. If I choose to offend anyone on purpose their need for it is wholly irrelevant ;)
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SusurrusParadox: Transphobic bullshit in a Gamergate thread.
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HiPhish: Coming from a KKK member... How do I know you are a KKK member? I just know, I mean I don't have any proof or anything, but what I have learned from Social Justice is that you can accuse anyone of any atrocity without any proof. So progressive.
I ain't your English teacher. Do your damn reading.
Or read the following reply.

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SusurrusParadox: Wow.
Transphobic bullshit in a Gamergate thread.

What a non-surprise.
(They do a really great job of failing to demonstrate any ethical concerns whatsoever for their own behaviour, don't they?)
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noncompliantgame: Where's the Transphobic bullshit? Ah yes, that's what's been missing here lately - completely unsubstantiated declarative sentences. Hello hatemonger. Bye-bye hatemonger. <@:^D+<
Maybe you could also try reading the thread.
Particularly the pages where people comment on Ms. Wu and those with comments on the Pillars of Eternity nonsense.
(Hi, I'm a relatively high-level backer of that. I support it having been changed. Mostly because it was goddamn awful writing never mind the transphobic/homophobic implications of "thought they were a woman, later perceived them to be a man".)
They're not that far back.
(Allegedly this is all about ethics in videogame journalism rather than harassing individual women, and Gamergaters are also allegedly not bigots of any sort, no sir. ... guess those must be SJW 'false flags', right? The fact no-one called them out afore I commented? Everyone seemed totally chill with spouting off before actually assessing whether something might potentially be unnecessarily disrespectful?)

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Oh, and uh, I'd also like those that decided to mock 'triggers' to kindly throw themselves into a bonfire.
Just because you think some people misuse them, just because you are apparently free from phobias & anxiety disorders (including PTSD) doesn't mean you get to decide no-one needs them.
Post edited April 10, 2015 by SusurrusParadox
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SusurrusParadox: snip
(Since allegedly this is all about ethics in videogame journalism rather than harassing individual women.)
I keep trying to discuss ethics of objectivity in journalism and society, but no one answers when it gets interesting and complex enough. And I'm not even a gator. Will you play with me? Pretty please? It's hard to have a debate when the other side doesn't show up... :(
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HiPhish: Coming from a KKK member... How do I know you are a KKK member? I just know, I mean I don't have any proof or anything, but what I have learned from Social Justice is that you can accuse anyone of any atrocity without any proof. So progressive.
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SusurrusParadox: I ain't your English teacher. Do your damn reading.
(Hint: Pages with users commenting on Ms. Wu.)

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noncompliantgame: Where's the Transphobic bullshit? Ah yes, that's what's been missing here lately - completely unsubstantiated declarative sentences. Hello hatemonger. Bye-bye hatemonger. <@:^D+<
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SusurrusParadox: Maybe you could also try reading the thread.
Particularly the pages where people comment on Ms. Wu.
They're not that far back, and they use pretty damn typical transphobic rhetoric instead of having anything even remotely to do with the actual topic.
(Since allegedly this is all about ethics in videogame journalism rather than harassing individual women.)
Then perhaps you should ignore their vitriol and engage in discussion with those people who are willing and capable of rational conversation. Or are you just here to copy/paste more victim card nonsense?
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SusurrusParadox: Oh, and uh, I'd also like those that decided to mock 'triggers' to kindly throw themselves into a bonfire.
Just because you think some people misuse them, just because you are apparently free from phobias & anxiety disorders (including PTSD) doesn't mean you get to decide no-one needs them.
Violent aren't you. You are probably one of those assholes who think its okay to burn down a pizza parlor if the owners don't think the way you do.

Strange how all of you SJWs keep telling people what they can and cannot believe or can and cannot publish. Apparently you can also decide that no one can complain about the stupidity of trigger warnings (they are) because you think you are so God damn morally superior to the rest of the population.

Sorry, but there are more opinions than just yours, and people like you who disrespect the opinions of others, aren't worth listening to.
Post edited April 11, 2015 by RWarehall
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SusurrusParadox: snip
(Since allegedly this is all about ethics in videogame journalism rather than harassing individual women.)
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Brasas: I keep trying to discuss ethics of objectivity in journalism and society, but no one answers when it gets interesting and complex enough. And I'm not even a gator. Will you play with me? Pretty please? It's hard to have a debate when the other side doesn't show up... :(
Personally, I blame the corporations involved in creating/applying the pressures and corrupt practices.
(ie: Not the journalists.)

Also, I mean, they're videogames journalists.
They're generally not that highly paid, so the 'perks' of going to cool shows and being shown/given stuff to play with are about it as far as I'm aware.
They also (hopefully) enjoy at least some games, so I'm not even looking for that much objectivity in videogames journalism. Mainly what I'd be interested in is "What's it like? Give detailed answer." & "Would I want this?" as well as the odd "Okay so what's coming up & which companies are doing what now?".
... which tbh the old 'corrupt' form did. If I wanted honest reviews (seriously, who the fuck goes to videogames journalism of any form for honest assessments of quality) then I'd browse for discussion forums or the like.
Somewhere where would-be fans and actual players of the games share their opinion, at least some of which are likely to include detailed answers as to any bugs or cool features.
(In short: "Is it fun or at least very interesting?", which is the key question for any game or.. art in general, I suppose.)

So honestly the whole shitstorm arising out of what seemed to have been an extremely unhealthy relationship (on both sides) is just... nah.
On top of that the allegedly ethical Gamergate group seem to fairly regularly engage in sexist/homophobic/transphobic shit, which is just bloody disappointing.
(Granted some of them are at least trying to present a face of "Honestly, we're not bigots. BUT GET YOUR DAMN REPRESENTATION AND EQUALITY AND STUFF OUT OF OUR GAMES" when.. y'know, there are enough games to go around really?)
Quit pissing and moaning and getting so damn OFFENDED that people don't like being disregarded, disrespected, & generally marginalised.

They're fucking videogames, for fuck's sake. They're supposed to be harmless fucking fun!
Instead of taking fucking shots at various people for (from the GG perspective) having a 'misguided' sense of justice, try just playing a fucking videogame.
Try considering that more diverse videogames aren't actually the end of the world because it means MORE GAMES and MORE STORIES and MORE STUFF.
(It also means not unnecessarily hurting people. Which, I mean, why the fuck would any ethical person want that? It's a shitty thing to do. Don't fuckin' do it.)

Jesus fucking Christ on a stick, I am so damn sick of the same damn stories being trotted out year after year.
Every so often something cool comes along with a new thing and then it gets run into the damn ground and mimicked to death or it somehow gets completely disregarded and fades into obscurity.
Or its like is just never seen again for some ridiculous reason.

Idk. Like, I love videogames. They're fuckin' great. Interactive stories (I have a preference for RPGs and the like), with (supposed-to-be) fun things to do!
But sometimes the fucking 'fandom' just saddens me.
Like, I expect that sort of behaviour from young teens that haven't learned shit yet.
By like.. 25, people should know enough to not spout off aggressive/disrespectful shit at relative strangers and just generally conduct themselves with some basic human decency.
(Really, what does one LOSE by having more people enjoy games & feel comfortable playing games? Unless you're actually one of the mythical fucking loners that dwells in a basement and loathes the idea of like.. sharing, and enjoying multiplayer stuff.)

I suppose the summary is:
PLAY YER FUCKIN' GAMES.
With the subtitle of:
EDUCATE YOURSELF ON THE EXPERIENCES OF OTHER HUMANS AND TRY NOT TO BE A FUCKIN' DICK ABOUT IT.

[Edit: Forgot to close a bracket.]
Post edited April 11, 2015 by SusurrusParadox
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SusurrusParadox: [rubbish]
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RWarehall: Violent aren't you. You are probably one of those assholes who think its okay to burn down a pizza parlor if the owners don't think the way you do.

Strange how all of you SJWs keep telling people what they can and cannot believe or can and cannot publish. Apparently you can also decide that no one can complain about the stupidity of trigger warnings (they are) because you think you are so God damn morally superior to the rest of the population.

Sorry, but there are more opinions than just yours, and people like you who disrespect the opinions of others, aren't worth listening to.
Another perfect example of this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Na%C3%AFve_realism_%28psychology%29
Post edited April 11, 2015 by Klumpen0815