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Posted March 16, 2015
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noncompliantgame: Brace yourselves gamers and prepare for a full tilt wave of abuse to hit you.
I'm not sure it is going to hit me.... so I guess am not a gamer?

*speaking word to the power*
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Posted March 16, 2015
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noncompliantgame: Brace yourselves gamers and prepare for a full tilt wave of abuse to hit you. The lies and fascist propaganda are about to be unleashed in the form of GTFO: The Movie. A "documentary" (yeah right) designed to destroy your self-esteem as both a human being and a gamer.

The hate-piece, directed by Shannon Sun-Higginson and funded by her acolytes via kickstarter is said to be a series of cherry picked annecdotal stories of women claiming harassment and abuse for being female gamers. How original!

GTFO premiered March 14 at this year’s South by Southwest film festival, held March 13-22 in Austin,Texas. If you wish to see it, then the privalege will cost you between $695 to $1745.

Somebody hold me back. I can't wait! X-D
is that abuse? well i better call the cops because i get abused on a daily basis.
Posted March 16, 2015
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noncompliantgame: Brace yourselves gamers and prepare for a full tilt wave of abuse to hit you. The lies and fascist propaganda are about to be unleashed in the form of GTFO: The Movie. A "documentary" (yeah right) designed to destroy your self-esteem as both a human being and a gamer.

The hate-piece, directed by Shannon Sun-Higginson and funded by her acolytes via kickstarter is said to be a series of cherry picked annecdotal stories of women claiming harassment and abuse for being female gamers. How original!

GTFO premiered March 14 at this year’s South by Southwest film festival, held March 13-22 in Austin,Texas. If you wish to see it, then the privalege will cost you between $695 to $1745.

Somebody hold me back. I can't wait! X-D
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dragonbeast: is that abuse? well i better call the cops because i get abused on a daily basis.
You bet you do. You are abused on a daily basis. And the way things are going you can excpect more. Aside from everything not to do with gaming - denigration of gamers is just part of it. What we're witnessing is just the start. They are coming for your games, they're taking your right to chose what you play and how you play it. If you let them.

@amok - the expression is "Speak truth to power"

EDIT @amok (again) - "Speaking truth to power". I think you understand what it means.;-)

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amok: but I may not agree with it, and therefor not use it. I do not think is is possible to speak any 'truth' to anything, as 'the truth' do not exist. I can only speak words...
LOL. Good luck in that solopsistic nightmare world! :-)

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amok: ... all I can hope for is that some of those words will have some impact.
That's alright. There's no need to feel compelled to impress me.
Post edited March 17, 2015 by noncompliantgame
Posted March 16, 2015
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noncompliantgame: @amok - the expression is "Speak truth to power"
makes the presumption that you think that there is 'a truth'...
Posted March 16, 2015
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noncompliantgame: @amok - the expression is "Speak truth to power"
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amok: makes the presumption that you think that there is 'a truth'...
So you believe in multiple universes? Or only multiple perceptions? Or you just trolled me :)
Posted March 16, 2015
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@noncompliantgame, reply to PM:

Indeed I will presume what I will, same as with anyone else. And that is partly the crust ( :) ) of the problem.

But, all you can speak (or in case of the forum - type) are words, not truths. There are no truths, only different perspectives. So you can not speak any truth, or the truth you speak is only true to yourself. Add in the problem of communication and meanings.... and it is a mess. So I will speak words to the power (this time you :)), and all I can hope for is that some of those words will have some impact.
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amok: makes the presumption that you think that there is 'a truth'...
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Brasas: So you believe in multiple universes? Or only multiple perceptions? Or you just trolled me :)
answered above, I think
Post edited March 16, 2015 by amok
Posted March 16, 2015
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noncompliantgame: EDIT @amok (again) - "Speaking truth to power". I think you understand what it means.;-)
but I may not agree with it, and therefor not use it. I do not think is is possible to speak any 'truth' to anything, as 'the truth' do not exist. I can only speak words...
Posted March 16, 2015
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noncompliantgame: EDIT @amok (again) - "Speaking truth to power". I think you understand what it means.;-)
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amok: but I may not agree with it, and therefor not use it. I do not think is is possible to speak any 'truth' to anything, as 'the truth' do not exist. I can only speak words...
Argh, radical constructivism... damn Watzlawick and his colleagues...
Post edited March 16, 2015 by Klumpen0815
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noncompliantgame: DOUBLE EDIT @amok
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amok: but I may not agree with it, and therefor not use it. I do not think is is possible to speak any 'truth' to anything, as 'the truth' do not exist. I can only speak words...
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noncompliantgame: LOL. Good luck in that solopsistic nightmare world! :-)
no, that's taking it to the extreme. There are shared understandings and patterns, but it is not the same as 'a truth'. At best you can hope for is shared 'truths', but it do not mean that your shared 'truths' are more valid than mine.
Posted March 17, 2015
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Vainamoinen: Calling a video game critic out as a "charlatan", as a developer, is extreme, no damn doubt about it. Chmielarz is firmly on an opportunist side of this.
Ah so that's it; he committed the unfathomable crime of calling Anita a "charlatan" so that's what made him a "hate monger"... and not just any hate monger, but an opportunistic one at that (the worst kind). Thinking about it; "supporting" GG, even indirectly or accidentally, usually cause a hate mob to jump on your throat, I fail to see what part of that is "opportunistic". (Well at least you didn't call him a right wing nut-job, so I guess you are making progress).

But seriously are you really so bigoted that you cannot even consider the fact that peoples might have a different opinion that yours without being "hate mongers", "opportunistic", whatever, that they might have this opinion because well... you know... it's actually what they believe in ?

That's the problem with several members of your "side", you included, you are so indulged in your own self righteousness that you cannot even tolerate any dissident/different opinion, anybody who dare to have one becomes immediately a hater, extremist, hate campaign supporter, or are even proclaimed honorific GG leader, regardless of how they express said opinion or the arguments they might give. Never thought that maybe it's because of all this hate and intolerance that some peoples have a low opinion of "SJW" ?

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Vainamoinen: Chmielarz' pandering to gg will bite him in the ass eventually, I am very sure of it.
Him too ? wasn't it John Bain that was supposed to get his ass bitten too ? Damn, not being on the anti-GG side seems more dangerous for your derrière than being in prison :)
Posted March 17, 2015
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Gersen:
And yet, wasn't it Brianna Wu that had to grovel to be back in AGG's good graces & not brad Wardell with GG over them sharing a drink?
Posted March 17, 2015
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amok: At best you can hope for is shared 'truths', but it do not mean that your shared 'truths' are more valid than mine.
Are you not the one who went around chastising people for breaking up bundles? Or is bundle piracy (as you called it) one of those "truths" that's somehow more valid than those held by others?

Not that it's relevant to the discussion or anything, nor do I necessarily disagree. Just seems like you aren't in any position to be throwing those particular stones given that bit of sanctimony.
Posted March 17, 2015
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amok: @noncompliantgame, reply to PM:

Indeed I will presume what I will, same as with anyone else. And that is partly the crust ( :) ) of the problem.

But, all you can speak (or in case of the forum - type) are words, not truths. There are no truths, only different perspectives. So you can not speak any truth, or the truth you speak is only true to yourself. Add in the problem of communication and meanings.... and it is a mess. So I will speak words to the power (this time you :)), and all I can hope for is that some of those words will have some impact.
One plus one equals two.
*speaking truth to the power*

:D
Post edited March 17, 2015 by tremere110
Posted March 17, 2015
Life is best when the bitter is mixed with the sweet, and so I recently stumbled across a funny comic site. On Tumblr :)
http://patri-archie-comics.tumblr.com

And how come i had never heard of /v/ the musical? Those guys are fantastic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcebgKvAoh0

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dragonbeast: is that abuse? well i better call the cops because i get abused on a daily basis.
Forget the cops, you should get a Patreon instead.
Posted March 17, 2015
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amok: snip
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Brasas: So you believe in multiple universes? Or only multiple perceptions? Or you just trolled me :)
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amok: answered above, I think
Ok then, thanks for the living example of my argument around objectivity. You believe in multiple perceptions, to the point you presume objective existence is only surreal; no actual reality.

Alas for postmodernism subjectivity's reign... may it be short.
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