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<span class="bold">JORDAN OWEN DOES IT AGAIN!</span>

Bloomberg 4th rate Anti-Gamer Hit Piece Exposed!!

"The Sarkeesian Effect" producer tells all!!!



HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!! <@8^D+<











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Post edited December 30, 2014 by noncompliantgame
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noncompliantgame: <span class="bold">JORDAN OWEN DOES IT AGAIN!</span>

Bloomberg 4th rate Anti-Gamer Hit Piece Exposed!!

"The Sarkeesian Effect" producer tells all!!!

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!! <@8^D+<

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There is one thing I wondered since I watched the Tropes vs Women in Video games. The word academic study is being mentioned a lot in relation to those videos.

I do not know much about academia in the states, but does she not have to establish a frame of reference for her assumptions and generalizations. So that there is actually a answering credible statement about the question which is being examined?

There are about 50000 games listed on moby games and I am not sure that this is the complete list. For a scientific statement about the "mysoginistic" nature of video games one way would be:

- some quantifiable misogynistic patterns have to be established which are to be examined.

- intended misgyinistc patterns and unintended misogynistic patterns.

- a complete list of games for the examined time frame has to be made. The time frame has further to be subdivided in years, genres, game types, developers and platforms . Then someone would have to play all those games and see if there are actually those patterns present and to what extent.

- then someone would have to formulate the conclusions and then you could make conclusions about the development over the years and existence of mysogynistic patterns in games.

- for sandbox games, which are a special case, when the "misogynistic" behaviour of players is not necessarily the games goal or intended by the developers, but such actions are possible in the game. It would have to be it's own study how many of the players use the possibility of misogynistic actions albeit it does not progress them in the game and then to determine why players feel compelled to execute those actions.

As it stands she looked at 183 games, which are 0,36% of the about 50000. The videos seem more to document the process of identifying those patterns(although I doubt it, it seems more like just bitching about something that could be a pattern), at the same time making conclusions and generalizations about games as a whole with no scientific base or credibility.

Those vids are in no way anything like a scientific study. It is packaged as one, but there is nothing academic, scientific about them, the vids are opinions. Those vids are money milkers for her business.
Post edited January 01, 2015 by MaGo72
Oh lord.

Apparently TotalBiscuit is a terrible person for supporting a charity livestream.

Anti-GG is literally its own parody.
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Haters want to hate. The extremists in the group believe anyone who doesn't 100% agree with them are 100% wrong and bad. It's like in another thread where someone mentioned how they cannot discuss toxic masculinity without being called a Saarkesian zealot. I really doubt you'll get much of a rational discussion when you use terms such as that.
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jefequeso: Oh lord.
Apparently TotalBiscuit is a terrible person for supporting a charity livestream.
Anti-GG is literally its own parody.
Seems like you missed the mini-internet drama of last week when TB was quote-mined about his impressions over Twine (the program to make text-based games) and got blocked furiously by the co-dev of Depression Quest and received some complaints. Reminds me of the Gallant thing :o)

On the other side (yeah, this whole thread is black or white ^o^), I've vaguely read some stuff about 8chan owner who left some CP pictures on his board to gain more clicks. BTW, due to Patreon' new policy, he changed his patreon (covering 8chan costs) to cat videos productions.

As we say in French: "y'en a pas un pour rattraper l'autre" :o) (bad translation: "there is no one to save the other").
I'm curious how long this circus show will last, it's been since end augustus this shit started ^o^
Post edited January 01, 2015 by catpower1980
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jefequeso: Oh lord.
Apparently TotalBiscuit is a terrible person for supporting a charity livestream.
Anti-GG is literally its own parody.
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catpower1980: Seems like you missed the mini-internet drama of last week when TB was quote-mined about his impressions over Twine (the program to make text-based games) and got blocked furiously by the co-dev of Depression Quest and received some complaints. Reminds me of the Gallant thing :o)

On the other side (yeah, this whole thread is black or white ^o^), I've vaguely read some stuff about 8chan owner who left some CP pictures on his board to gain more clicks. BTW, due to Patreon' new policy, he changed his patreon (covering 8chan costs) to cat videos productions.

As we say in French: "y'en a pas un pour rattraper l'autre" :o) (bad translation: "there is no one to save the other").
I'm curious how long this circus show will last, it's been since end augustus this shit started ^o^
Yeah, I suppose if we're going to be fair, GG has its share of stupidity as well.
I don't think games journalism is the only thing we should take with a truck of salt here? Seriously? Played EVERY game? What the fuck? They should attempt to pass on information if they don't know what they're talking about. Failing even that just makes them devoid of the title of a journalist or academic of any sort, IMO.
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catpower1980: I'm curious how long this circus show will last, it's been since end augustus this shit started ^o^
It's been since a lot longer than August...
It's been going on for at least two years.
This crazy stuff has been simmering long before there was any such thing as Quinnspiracy or Gamergate with atrocities on both sides. It's just very convenient for some groups to pin the start to August as that was the low point in terms of harassment from the pre-Gamergate side. Doxxing and DOS attacks and forum storms have raged on the subject for far longer than that.

Zoe and the Chans have had bad blood well before Gamergate over some negative review on Wizardchan where Zoe and her internet posse thought it a good idea to drop into their forums en masse and insult everyone.

And the Saarkesian issue dates back to the introduction of the Kickstarter.
I had hoped for a solution that would bring back those totalitarian lunatics into reality but no... and that Zoe is still around is a clear sign that people havent woken up. We will see. They just need to push the wrong person to much and game over I say for the one individuall. A wakeup call would be a good thing imo. When nothing else helps well... ;)
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catpower1980: I'm curious how long this circus show will last, it's been since end augustus this shit started ^o^
Interesting question. I expect to get quite a few more months of entertainment out of this. On one side we have gamers a group of people who have a special term for doing a boring repetative task to earn a minimal reward (grinding). On the other side we have the social justice warriors who are true believers that gamergate is nothing but a hate group. in other words we have two groups full of remarkably stubborn people.

I see three possible endings for this. 1) (Most likely) The games media slowly stops publishing gamer's are dead and gamergate is just a hate group articles. The twitter war continues but slowly loses steam until only two small hardcore groups are left fighting. 2) (Not likely) A new game is released that is a giant time sink and all the gamers are too busy playing it to keep up with gamergate. 3) (Not likely) The SJW scene descends into civil war over who is supposed to check their privilege and be quiet while a more oppressed minority is allowed to speak.
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walpurgis8199: Interesting question. I expect to get quite a few more months of entertainment out of this. On one side we have gamers a group of people who have a special term for doing a boring repetative task to earn a minimal reward (grinding). On the other side we have the social justice warriors who are true believers that gamergate is nothing but a hate group. in other words we have two groups full of remarkably stubborn people.

I see three possible endings for this. 1) (Most likely) The games media slowly stops publishing gamer's are dead and gamergate is just a hate group articles. The twitter war continues but slowly loses steam until only two small hardcore groups are left fighting. 2) (Not likely) A new game is released that is a giant time sink and all the gamers are too busy playing it to keep up with gamergate. 3) (Not likely) The SJW scene descends into civil war over who is supposed to check their privilege and be quiet while a more oppressed minority is allowed to speak.
Yeah, this is what happens when an immovable object meets an irresistable force. Which is which tho?


And speaking of which, a more amusing (if slightly belated) take on the "25 advantages of white male house boys..." or whatever it was ... T

This observation by the brilliant Karen "where's my vodka" Straughan in two parts <span class="bold">Part 1</span> and <span class="bold">Part 2</span>

enjoi! :-)
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noncompliantgame: <span class="bold">JORDAN OWEN DOES IT AGAIN!</span>

Bloomberg 4th rate Anti-Gamer Hit Piece Exposed!!

"The Sarkeesian Effect" producer tells all!!!

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!! <@8^D+<

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MaGo72: There is one thing I wondered since I watched the Tropes vs Women in Video games. The word academic study is being mentioned a lot in relation to those videos.

I do not know much about academia in the states, but does she not have to establish a frame of reference for her assumptions and generalizations. So that there is actually a answering credible statement about the question which is being examined?

There are about 50000 games listed on moby games and I am not sure that this is the complete list. For a scientific statement about the "mysoginistic" nature of video games one way would be:

- some quantifiable misogynistic patterns have to be established which are to be examined.

- intended misgyinistc patterns and unintended misogynistic patterns.

- a complete list of games for the examined time frame has to be made. The time frame has further to be subdivided in years, genres, game types, developers and platforms . Then someone would have to play all those games and see if there are actually those patterns present and to what extent.

- then someone would have to formulate the conclusions and then you could make conclusions about the development over the years and existence of mysogynistic patterns in games.

- for sandbox games, which are a special case, when the "misogynistic" behaviour of players is not necessarily the games goal or intended by the developers, but such actions are possible in the game. It would have to be it's own study how many of the players use the possibility of misogynistic actions albeit it does not progress them in the game and then to determine why players feel compelled to execute those actions.

As it stands she looked at 183 games, which are 0,36% of the about 50000. The videos seem more to document the process of identifying those patterns(although I doubt it, it seems more like just bitching about something that could be a pattern), at the same time making conclusions and generalizations about games as a whole with no scientific base or credibility.

Those vids are in no way anything like a scientific study. It is packaged as one, but there is nothing academic, scientific about them, the vids are opinions. Those vids are money milkers for her business.
YOu should send that info to them over at the Sarkeesian Effect. It might help!
Post edited January 02, 2015 by noncompliantgame
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RWarehall: ...
It has been going on even longer than that. Remember the Wii, Nintendo's game console that was all about making new gamers? Remember also how the very same outlets that are insulting us now for being neckbearded antisocial hatemongers were the loudest against the one game console that was actually bringing in new people? Because I do remember the articles.

Now we also know why the Wii had to die. Here are two great videos by Sargon about the sort of academic non-research and political manipulations going on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF5a5IgbuYk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOt-YZ_i0Fk

The first video was about a study set to prove that gender representation in games is important, however, to the authors disappointment it turned out that it wasn't. So the next paper was then about how to make it important to gamers. Or in other words, how can we create a problem where none exists and then sell the solution.

The Wii was the complete antithesis to this. The Wii was made to be just fun, simple old-fashioned fun. There was no political agenda behind, artistic vision it or any other ideology, unless you count the ideology of making a product that will sell many units. And many units it did sell. Too many units.
Post edited January 02, 2015 by HiPhish
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noncompliantgame: <span class="bold">JORDAN OWEN DOES IT AGAIN!</span>

Bloomberg 4th rate Anti-Gamer Hit Piece Exposed!!

"The Sarkeesian Effect" producer tells all!!!

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!! <@8^D+<

*
An amusing (if slightly belated) take on the "25 advantages of white male house boys..." or whatever it was ...

This observation by the brilliant Karen "where's my vodka" Straughan in two parts <span class="bold">Part 1</span> and <span class="bold">Part 2</span>

enjoi! :-)
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There are no fucking words. Luckily nobody got shot, although I wouldn't rule that out for any future SWATings.
<span class="bold">#gamergate FABULOUS PRIZES TO BE WON!!!</span>

A subscriber called Glenn sent Sargon of Akkad a care package that was too generous for him to accept, so he's throwing a #gamergate competition and wants YOU to come up with some great ideas for it!






*Oh! And of course, keep those crazy criminal sjw's on their toes ;-)