Nothing cheers you up like the risk of toddlers running the risk of starting their life on nutrition deficiency. Time to produce more mouths to not feed! :D

Personally, I would rather not stick my dick in something until we know what awaits.

Nothing with what I said ruled out what you just said, unless you just wanted to use it as a springboard to highlight the importance of local self-sufficiency. And with that, I absolutely agree, centralization and lack of control over production is a recipe for tyranny. Secession to the tiniest possible geographical area would be preferred, autonomy for everyone and so on.

Now you can barely produce food of any kind yourself and sell it to your neighbor without regulations getting in the way. Even worse if you want to try your luck at a local market. Not being able to trade however we wish without the government interfering makes us slaves and puts us at the mercy of our rulers.

or a lot of divorces ;)

It was their plan all along to solve the birth rate and retirement pension crisis! ;)

Babies get born from the corpses of old people. Genius, talk about hitting two flies with one stone. I underestimated our rulers. They just feign incompetence for our own good, they are the heroes we don't deserve.

I've been working from home sporadically for a few months, and permanently since the quarantine started. It made me realize the amount of time we waste commuting every day. Plus I drive to work, so I am also saving a lot in gasoline.

I wouldn't want to completely stop going to the office though. I have built a camaraderie with my immediate colleagues that wouldn't be possible without spending time together, and some affairs are better treated face to face. But I hope a new trend develops towards perhaps a 50/50 split between office and home time.

One of the few good comsecuences will be that specifically in Spanish and Italian Great cities and accordingly in the rest of Europe we will have the lowest historical pollution rates ever. Probably.

We must to think in possitive in all we can :)

Let's be honest......fear mongering or not, people WILL panic at some point/in various ways over this...no matter what anyone else says/does.

(That isn't to say anyone should try to make it worse, of course)

Wouldn't only masks and normal clothes(and gloves) be needed for this illness, though(not full gear)?

But a somewhat decent idea anyways, if one wants to go out(and can) but not infect others(if one has the means, that is).


Agreed.....many of us(including me...had to scramble for some things) had the chance to stock up & many of us laughed such notions off/didn't bother even stocking some basic things....either out of denial or laziness, or being poor/something else out of one's control.

As for me: I was smart enough to stock up for ANY emergency with some canned goods/other foods/etc way before this, so I will be able to hold out 1 1/2-2 months somewhat comfortably if need be(minus maybe TP supplies)......others are likely not so lucky, though, and I worry for and feel bad for some of them.

That's how quarantine here is looking like 20 minutes after the end of rush hour. I had to do some shopping and decided to do it after everyone's gone to work. An eight-lane street (10 lanes at some points) that goes around the center of the city. I've never seen it that empty. Not even on the car free day we have once every year ;P

The supermarket is ~1km away from my home and I've seen three police patrols on my way. On the way back I saw two guys standing at the corner of a street having a chat. The police approached them, said a few words (didn't hear anything, I just saw it from a distance) and the two guys went off in different directions immediately. You're not even allowed to say "Hi" to someone you just came across. When you're outside, you have to move.

They're pretty serious about the quarantine. I'm curious how long we'll be "locked up" at our homes.

That sucks.....but(as another user here said) if nothing else positive can be said: at least traffic jams and pollution are being reduced. :|

Hopefully this is temporary....if govts did this for many months id likely say "screw that" and go out anyways(to my yard/etc....and not to infect anyone, just to live life) even under threat of jail/etc.

Better not be long.....or people WILL likely get fed up at some point.

Well considering you can spread it while being asymptomatic; I hardly think it matters. If you're sick and it's covid you've already spread it to everyone you love by then so just get yourself to a doc and take the same standard precautions you should be taking with ANY cold or flu.

I honestly think that even with everything in place(full lockdown type deals even) many more will get this.....which sucks(dunno a better word for this level of bad atm).

What they ARE doing is that the police is enforcing it. Hefting fines AND for those causing trouble as in insults and open defiance/refusal to adhere to directives -which of course has already happened- can be thrown in station's jails to teach them some 'manners'. Some actually given attitudes deserve a whole lot more than that, if hint here can be taken.

I don't need to stress again what has already been pointed out: coupled with the cavalier/dismissive attitudes of the 'bah it'll die out and it's no more than the flu' we've heard including from some so-called experts, health care in Europe is near to collapse, when it has not done so already. Hence confinement decisions being made. So those thinking that directives don't apply to them for whatever reason should really think hard on that. We are not as lucky as for example Taiwan and South Korea, where the former as already mentioned here had all contingencies in place and ready to be put in action to deal with something like this, and if the latter didn't go into confinement for they had the medical ability to deal with those infected, and had enacted nationwide testing, as well as other measure also in place.

I don't think that's what you should do, they've got special hotlines (at least in municipalities in Germany, but I'm sure everywhere else in the developed world too) which you should call for further instructions, so you don't spread the virus to general practitioners or other medical personnel.