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Posted January 30, 2015
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Sachys: Well, I cant find the link right now, but Braussie (from the forums here) had quite a good one of them in front of the mic just doing a series of impressions and ad-libbed stuff
This one.
Posted January 30, 2015
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Sachys: Well, I cant find the link right now, but Braussie (from the forums here) had quite a good one of them in front of the mic just doing a series of impressions and ad-libbed stuff
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F4LL0UT: This one.
I want to make a joke about you stalking Braussie... but you wearing his entrails aint funny. O___o
Posted January 30, 2015
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Sachys: I want to make a joke about you stalking Braussie... but you wearing his entrails aint funny. O___o
Not stalking him, I have been regularly trying to get him a VA job ever since I saw his demo, though, and showing it around. Sadly with no luck. I got pretty close one time, all the creative guys at the studio wanted him but the CEO decided against it (for reasons the designers and I totally didn't agree with, *sigh* - it sure as hell wasn't about Braussie's skills, though, obviously those are mindblowingly awesome).

One time Braussie voluntarily provided voice work for an academic game project I also voluntarily worked for, btw. Sadly neither one of us got anything out of it (the game died in a pretty bad state and I didn't even get a build of the "final" game - the last build they made didn't include our credits... ungrateful pricks).
Post edited January 30, 2015 by F4LL0UT
Posted January 30, 2015
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F4LL0UT: the last build they made didn't include our credits... ungrateful pricks).
Ouch!

Didnt know that (though it may have been mentioned before to me). yet again this goes back to my initial advice splurge though - how everybidy wants you to work for free. Total arses!
Posted January 30, 2015
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Klumpen0815: Maintain a humble lifestyle, keep running costs low, do the work you love and get better in doing it.
It's the right choice.
And if it turns out to be the wrong choice take comfort in the fact that you'll die alone and penniless in the gutter. :P
Posted January 30, 2015
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PhilD: And if it turns out to be the wrong choice take comfort in the fact that you'll die alone and penniless in the gutter. :P
If that's gonna be the case, I'll become a zen monk :D
Posted January 30, 2015
I've married twice. I call that double-risky, living on the edge.
Post edited January 30, 2015 by timppu
Posted January 30, 2015
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Klumpen0815: I never got into normal higher education due to my very bad family background and other reasons, had to abort university out of financial reasons too (didn't get into the field I wanted to go into anyway), but am doing fine and better every year, I've got a nice job where I can create musical instruments (right up my alley) and enough time to get my own product line together which is materializing right now.

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XYCat: I dunno, making something cool :D
Making a game or something would be the most reasonable as it presumably might be done without the need of meeting in person since there's people all over the world here.
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Klumpen0815: Hey, I always wanted to participate in making a game as a musician.
I'm a multiinstrumentalist mostly playing hurdy-gurdy and oriental frame drums but other stuff too.
If you want to stand out, use real instruments/music instead of pc generated stuff, nobody is doing this anymore, last game I knew that used real musicians was Knights of Honor, at least I think so.
We could work something out together! :D
Posted January 30, 2015
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F4LL0UT: I kinda have and my best advice is to seek stability. People underestimate the effort, determination and - perhaps most importantly - luck it takes to get anywhere with these kinds of "careers" (and ignore the fact that also the vast majority of people who had any kind of success with this stuff at least originally did it on the side while doing totally mundane stuff full-time). I can imagine what kind of place you're in, I was there myself and for a while I was literally surrounded by people in the same situation - it's easy to perceive such activities as a way out of the aimlessness that you probably feel right now but the truth is that it's most definitely gonna do a lot of harm if you rely too much on it. Shape your life in such a manner that you can do stuff like this while something else gives you a reason to get out of bed every day and provides you with the stuff you need to get by.
Dang it, does it look like I'm aimless? :( I actually really love these subjects I mentioned, have been doing them even while I was still in university. I'm a creative person at core and these are like empty pools where I can pour all my creativity. The reason I want to get out of bed IS to make things. :D For me, aimlessness means a lack of aims, but I have my aims. It's just that there are too many. So, like Sachys suggested, I should combine them somehow (or choose only one and focus on that). That way it's more stable, than juggling with the four them separately. :) The luck and providing-stuff-I-need-to-get-by parts are still fuzzy though :D
Posted January 30, 2015
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Klumpen0815: [...] Hey, I always wanted to participate in making a game as a musician. [..]
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XYCat: We could work something out together! :D
If only i had much free time these days, I guess I could participate in case you needed some action down there, at the low frequencies.. maybe some other time.. :-)

@ Klumpen0815: any chance for some photos of your crafting skills? You have one of the best jobs! ;-)
Posted January 30, 2015
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F4LL0UT: I kinda have and my best advice is to seek stability. People underestimate the effort, determination and - perhaps most importantly - luck it takes to get anywhere with these kinds of "careers" (and ignore the fact that also the vast majority of people who had any kind of success with this stuff at least originally did it on the side while doing totally mundane stuff full-time). I can imagine what kind of place you're in, I was there myself and for a while I was literally surrounded by people in the same situation - it's easy to perceive such activities as a way out of the aimlessness that you probably feel right now but the truth is that it's most definitely gonna do a lot of harm if you rely too much on it. Shape your life in such a manner that you can do stuff like this while something else gives you a reason to get out of bed every day and provides you with the stuff you need to get by.
Personally I hate risks but statistically I think this is right but then again people are different and only way to find out who you really are is experience.
Posted January 31, 2015
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Klumpen0815: If you want to stand out, use real instruments/music instead of pc generated stuff, nobody is doing this anymore, last game I knew that used real musicians was Knights of Honor, at least I think so.
Actually game soundtracks regularly include live performances, especially the big budget ones. Few OSTs focus on them, though.
Posted January 31, 2015
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flummoxed: Dang it, does it look like I'm aimless? :(
It does not but neither did it when I was in your situation. But the stuff you describe - I know it too well from myself and *many* others. Unless you're extremely lucky it WILL reveal itself as aimlessness. The best advice I have: if you're going for it, do it "professionally". Get an education or job that is somehow related to the things you're passionate about. And even then it's tough and dangerous to rely too much on success with such endeavours. I learned it the hard way.
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Nirth: Personally I hate risks but statistically I think this is right but then again people are different and only way to find out who you really are is experience.
Going by my personal experience I can honestly say, though, that you can get the same (and even better) opportunities while picking a far less risky path. Taking risks is romanticized a dangerous lot.
Post edited January 31, 2015 by F4LL0UT
Posted January 31, 2015
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Klumpen0815: If you want to stand out, use real instruments/music instead of pc generated stuff, nobody is doing this anymore, last game I knew that used real musicians was Knights of Honor, at least I think so.
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F4LL0UT: Actually game soundtracks regularly include live performances, especially the big budget ones. Few OSTs focus on them, though.
Live performance doesn't include any recording, but if you mean real instruments, then it's just gone past me because I don't play modern AAA games because of DRM and Vista/Win7 requirements.

A good example I know it Outcast though. Afaik the whole soundtrack is made by the Moscow Symphonic Orchestra, although I wouldn't use classical music on a strange planet but rather more unusual stuff like ghost catchers, hammered dulcimer, hurdy-gurdy, hang, sitar, etc...
Post edited January 31, 2015 by Klumpen0815
Posted January 31, 2015
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flummoxed: Dang it, does it look like I'm aimless? :(
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F4LL0UT: It does not but neither did it when I was in your situation. But the stuff you describe - I know it too well from myself and *many* others. Unless you're extremely lucky it WILL reveal itself as aimlessness. The best advice I have: if you're going for it, do it "professionally". Get an education or job that is somehow related to the things you're passionate about. And even then it's tough and dangerous to rely too much on success with such endeavours. I learned it the hard way.
I see what you mean. Thank you for your advice too :)
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