Ok then.....just remember that just because something has a smaller crowd that doesn't mean such things are bad/etc by default. Many things are niche and only liked by a small handful of people(relatively speaking) yet they are good in many ways(of course it's also true that small crowds might not be the best judges of taste...make of it what you will).

*Slow clap*

Imo they're trying to fill a niche first(iirc) tried to be filled by the likes of Ralph Bakshi et al. That is to say: "Adult" entertainment that is both engaging/entertaining and mature in theme(while perhaps also telling an intriguing story).

Whether or not they could live up to this ideal is another story entirely, but to write the game off as d*ck lasers and titties=childish/bad is silly at best and closeminded at worst.

It's INDIGO PROPHECY, good sir/mam....tyvm. ;) *monocle*

Maybe they should finish their game first (or at least bring it into "inDev" state (*)) before they ask GOG if they're interested in releasing it.

(*) WTF: their campaign just ended (on May 2nd), yet they plan to release the game to Early Access in June 2019?
That's next month...

Something smells very fishy...I can understand GOG.

It seems a bit suspect, but as for early access and GOG accepting it/turning it down: what about VTMB2? They barely have some trailers/art/etc for it and it's a year away, yet GOG accepted it.

I agree...the level of "cringeworthyness" in their campaign texts is stunning. As if a hormon-driven 13 y.o. had written them.

I like kinky games; not sure if I will like Subverse but I'd gladly take a closer look at it if it arrives here on gog. GOG, ignoring/ not responding to a business mail is rude; not doing so on a game that just made its 1.6 mil from 100k asked on KS is plainly du not the most business savvy course of action, regardless of how your personal tastes might be. As a fledgling aspiring startup company you might not know this but a simple not automated "Thanks, this is X from Gog. Congratulations to your massive KS success; we just read your inquiry and will get with you within the next 5 workdays" will not only make the other know that you got the mail but also you still have not made a promise. Except for getting back in 5 days.

Sorry for maybe sounding a tad salty but this rude high horse behavior gog adapted in the last few years is really infuriating sometimes. Double since I really want to love them as the cool guys; but as soon as I blink they do a new jerk move. :/

Who said anything about writing off the game as dick lasers and anime titties ? I said it doesn't inspire much confidence if that's the first thing that comes to mind about the game, anyone can include silly shit but it doesn't make it a good game in fact it comes across to me as i just don't give a crap and just make the game for shock value. that is the reason why i would have waited for final release and then decided whether it's worth it. It would have been nice to know about more important details of the game.

Tbh GOG already has enough crap games despite curation and we definately don't need more of that.

I don't know GOG's exact reason for rejecting games but if it is about AO only tag as RedDragon says then it's dumb, quality should always be what to judge games on.

That is actually what i mean, i wish they would talk more of the actual game rather than it include this and that which says next to nothing about the actual game.

Our game contain dicks and titties is not a selling point anymore maybe for teens, good games is what matters.

You mean the official and long awaited successor to one of the most iconic and beloved games in GOG's catalogue?

Done under the regime of Paradox (= multi-award winning devs/publishers), with which GOG has a long standing business relationship?

With participation of Brian Mitsoda himself (= the guy who designed VtMB)?

Yeah,...I wonder why they accepted that... /jk

They probably receive 100 emails a day and only have one guy checking them while doing other things..

Infuriating to the point that I - a former gog-enthusiast - read their dismal quarterly reports and go "serves you right, you pompous assholes".

It's heartbreaking, isn't it? They could have a good thing going.

GOG refused to fix their own countdown clocks, even when I already submitted GOG Support tickets.

I am not surprised that GOG refuse to reply emails.

I thought you might've been inferring it a bit with your words. If you werne't I apologize.

As for making a game for shock value: Many games that were successes/cult classics/somewhat good went for shock value in their initial offerings/later games. This includes the original/sequel GTA games & the postal series.

I agree more information would be good to have, though.

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Agreed....but who knows if this will be good or bad? It seems(by the KS numbers) that it will be somewhat popular(possibly equaling good numbers of sales), at any rate.

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Agreed 101%

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Shock and PR(even bad PR) can sell units, though, and gets their name out there quickly. Maybe that's what they're going for to drive the KS/further revenue generation.





1. It's still a game with little to no content released/created for it and GOG is offering it without much in the way to back the devs promise up beyond good faith/reputation/promises. Maybe their good rep with GOG/good standing with the first game should garner them some goodwill but not too much more.

2. Paradox or no we'll see how it goes...same with this game.

(After seeing good devs drop shitty sequels to otherwise great/good games I don't automatically assume quality dev=always quality products)

3. It also has other writers/devs(I will not name them for obv reasons) who have a more controversial past/questionable practices who are also on the project.
You'd think they'd have a seperate email account/line for business emails.....but that's just me spitballing.

Well, GOG is offering refunds for pre-orders. So nobody has to buy the cat in the bag. If pre.release reviews tell you the game sucks - just ask for a refund - done!

Exactly. Only with Paradox I know they know how to make enjoyable games...with these FOW guys all I know is that they produce cgi porn movies based on games (Bioshag: Trinity, Lara in trouble, Nier: first assembly and Nightmare: code Valentine, to name just four).
So I'm inclined to trust Paradox more when it comes to quality products. YMMV, of course.

Neither do I. But seemingly you assume that the producers of cgi porn automatically will deliver a quality (porn) game.

That's the problem with your "obvious" reasons...they never are obvious for anyone but yourself.
So - please - name the other writers/devs and tell us about their controversial/questionable past, instead of saying nothing for "obvious" reasons.

No i meant exactly what i have said and yes you did misinpreted it but everyone does mistakes so no problem.

Yes many games has had shock value and been successful and many who didn't have it was also successful so this point really doesn't matter it says nothing about the actual quality of the game, my worry was that the game only aimed for shock value and silly stuff for the sake of it rather than making a good game but again the game is not out so no one including me knows. Rockstar is an established studio who's game are proven to sell extremely well and Subverse is made by a new and unknown studio from what i've gathered.

I wouldn't ban this game from my store because it is AO and aim for shock value like "dick lasers" but to me it doesn't sound like a great game simply from that so yes i would wait and see how the final product turns out, this isn't what GOG has done apparently and simply ignored the devs which is different.

The game had a succesful kickstarter but it has rather low goals and doesn't guarantee loads of money like VTMB2 does because people pre order the shit out of it mostly for nostalgia i guess hell it even topped steams bestselling i think so any business would be stupid to reject that, lots of money is a strong incentive which this game isn't guaranteed to give so i sort of understand GOG's reasoning even if i disagree with how they handled it.