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Posted December 15, 2016
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Alaric.us: Also, your logic would dictate that no vulnerabilities should ever be exposed. Even if someone is already using them for nefarious purposes. I'm sure that every security research firm and even someone like Google would disagree.
We're not talking about Google here, or Microsoft, we're not talking about vulnerabilities in a bank that would let people steal money.
It's a forum for a gaming website.
It's not really a matter of national security.
Posted December 15, 2016
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adaliabooks: But that thread is exactly the point.
Did Gog fix the forum?
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ZFR: I'm hoping they see the gravity of the situation and do fix this exploit this time.

Look at it this way: with the exploit out there it was only a matter of time till some malicious troll comes up and starts using it do delete update thread, adaliabooks, MaGog... etc. At least now GOG noticed it, and hopefully will do something about it.
This.

Even the most busy company can find a single man-hour to spare over the course of 3 months.
Posted December 15, 2016
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tinyE: How ironic is it that I'm marking all of Alaric's posts in here as spam?
It's not irony at all, it just displays what is wrong with the forum and the abusers.
Posted December 15, 2016
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ZFR: I'm hoping they see the gravity of the situation and do fix this exploit this time.

Look at it this way: with the exploit out there it was only a matter of time till some malicious troll comes up and starts using it do delete update thread, adaliabooks, MaGog... etc. At least now GOG noticed it, and hopefully will do something about it.
But they haven't. They haven't deleted anything other than alaric's threads (and Tautos, but that's a different kettle of fish)
What does that tell you?
Surely if someone really wanted to cause trouble they would have by now.
If it was the 'SJW's they'd have deleted the gamergate thread, if it was people sick of politics they would have deleted the Brexit thread. Nothing else is being deleted.
Until now most people probably didn't even know it was possible to delete threads through user intervention, nevermind considered doing it.
The only reason there is any risk of threads being deleted is because of this being made such a big deal.
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Alaric.us: This.

Even the most busy company can find a single man-hour to spare over the course of 3 months.
Come back to me in three months and we'll see how this has played out then.
I think you'll be unpleasantly surprised.
Post edited December 15, 2016 by adaliabooks
Posted December 15, 2016
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Alaric.us: Even the most busy company can find a single man-hour to spare over the course of 3 months.
They can obviously do simple coding quickly.

Every time I've used a url shortener, within an hour that url site is blocked.

This happened three times with three different sites, so one of the mods/admin has the access and ability.
Posted December 15, 2016
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adaliabooks: The only reason there is any risk of threads being deleted is because of this being made such a big deal.
Covering up individual crimes (for so long as you dislike the victims) so that the overall statistic looks good. That way nobody will know that it is even possible to commit crimes.

Come on.

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adaliabooks: Come back to me in three months and we'll see how this has played out then.
I think you'll be unpleasantly surprised.
I remain cautiously hopeful.
Posted December 15, 2016
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Crewdroog: I agree with you zfr. I'm glad that this abuse may be getting fixed.
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Breja: I can not bloody believe what I'm reading. It's like I'm in some mirror universe where black is white, up is down and Megan Fox can act.

The guy posts spam, his threads got deleted as spam. He proceded to spam even more, spam like his life depends on it, he openly offered a known troll the means to totally fuck up the forum,, are you not seeing this? Are blind, are you crazy? What more do you want? There was no abuse, no issue to fix. He was spamming, he got his shit deleted as spam.
please stop picking fights with me. i'm allowed to have an opinion whether you like it or not.

it's not only the trolls that are making the community toxic, it is also people like you.
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Crewdroog: I agree with you zfr. I'm glad that this abuse may be getting fixed.
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tinyE: That's it. I tried and I can't do it anymore.

You obviously love how bad this forum has gotten and want to keep it that way. Bye.
sigh, you all need to stop behaving like children. You all are not making this forum any nicer than the trolls are. Do you not see that?

Spam deleting threads by people you don't like is no better than trolling? I'm sorry, but that's not right. And you said ealeir that Breja does do this and I know for a fact that a lot of regular old forum users do this.
Post edited December 15, 2016 by Crewdroog
Posted December 15, 2016
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Alaric.us: I will give 3 months. And then, on the 15th of March I will publish the same exact write-up for all to see.
So basically, you're using terrorist tactics.
Posted December 15, 2016
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adaliabooks: But they haven't.
What does that tell you?
Surely if someone really wanted to cause trouble they would have by now.
Every accident "hasn't happened till now" until it happens. By this logic there is no reason to worry about anything: "I've been driving like this for years, surely if anything were to happen it would have happened by now", "this has been leaking for years, surely if anything were to happen it would have happened by now",

"gunysynd has been a member of good standing for many months, surely if he were to go insane it would have happened by now."

Look at it this way, ToxicTom made an impromptu script to remove bamwar bots in a day-two most. What if it was someone with ToxicTom's knowledge who went insane instead of gunysynd?
Posted December 15, 2016
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Breja: I can not bloody believe what I'm reading. It's like I'm in some mirror universe where black is white, up is down and Megan Fox can act.

The guy posts spam, his threads got deleted as spam. He proceded to spam even more, spam like his life depends on it, he openly offered a known troll the means to totally fuck up the forum,, are you not seeing this? Are blind, are you crazy? What more do you want? There was no abuse, no issue to fix. He was spamming, he got his shit deleted as spam.
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amok: what I find delightfully subversive in all this is that it is the downreppers who became the spammers. If they had left it alone, it would have died by itself. However, they kept it alive. Kudos for that.
exactly. I tried to explain that before when they kept deleting Tauto's posts.
Posted December 15, 2016
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Alaric.us: I will give 3 months. And then, on the 15th of March I will publish the same exact write-up for all to see.
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zeogold: So basically, you're using terrorist tactics.
Yea. Same exact terrorist tactics as Google uses.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3137173/security/google-clashes-with-microsoft-over-windows-flaw-disclosure.html
Post edited December 15, 2016 by Alaric.us
Posted December 15, 2016
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adaliabooks: The only reason there is any risk of threads being deleted is because of this being made such a big deal.
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Alaric.us: Covering up individual crimes (for so long as you dislike the victims) so that the overall statistic looks good. That way nobody will know that it is even possible to commit crimes.

Come on.

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adaliabooks: Come back to me in three months and we'll see how this has played out then.
I think you'll be unpleasantly surprised.
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Alaric.us: I remain cautiously hopeful.
No one is covering up anything. But we're also not advertising the fact to everyone that threads can be deleted without a whole lot of effort.
Posted December 15, 2016
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adaliabooks: Until now most people probably didn't even know it was possible to delete threads through user intervention, nevermind considered doing it.
Granted it wasn't as widely know, but since the bamwar attack it has been no secret for the regulars. Been brought up many times before.
e.g.
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/downvote_posts_to_your_hearts_content_but_please_dont_mark_them_as_spam_unless_they_are/post4

It was only a matter of time till someone made malicious use of it
Posted December 15, 2016
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ZFR: Come on. It's not his problem. This is a forum-wide serious flaw that affects everyone, that been trying to draw GOG's attention to it for a year now. And I for one I'm happy this is finally getting fixed.
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tinyE: BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT

We've been trying to draw their attention to rep abuse for well over two years now.

I've been sending them copies of that extortion PM for well over a year.
Get mad all you want, but he has a point. It's better than somebody like Tauto having such a script, in which case many useful threads like my giveaway or Adalia Fundamentals or mrkgnao's threads would be the first to go. And as I pointed out before, Alaric is only one individual who knows a fair amount about coding. I imagine that anybody with about half that knowledge could've pulled it off, so better him than someone who would've done what I just said.

Extortion does nothing, but Alaric is actually wrecking the place.

The problem is the person behind it, since he's willing to equip the trolls and sink to terrorist levels to get what he wants.
Posted December 15, 2016
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ZFR: Others were in this situation too: dtgreene had legit posts deleted too.
I haven't noticed any of my posts being deleted.

(I have, however, noticed legitimate non-offensive non-controversial posts of mine being "low rated" for no good reason.)
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