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Every cloud has a silver lining.

I did consider purchasing the Gamer movie series, quite recently. It had a nice discount if you bought them all.

Dodged a bullet there. Whew.

Now, being serious for just a second - does anyone believe that if those movies were selling, they'd have pulled out?

My bet is they haven't sold anything for years, and thus it was easy to virtue signal over this.

"We put values over profit", said the man with nothing worth selling.
I like point and click adventure games!!
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51nikopol: I like point and click adventure games!!
Die, monster! You don't belong in this world!
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Hey I have an awesome idea : How about finding out where it goes from here ?

This is such a delicious thread, so illustrative of gog's Codes of Conduct and enforcements and the forum heydays.

Back to square one. A gaming classic.
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Maverick89: There´s nothing transphobic in the tweet, or in the Cyberpunk "Did you just assume my gender" tweet, pcmasterrace isn´t offensive, gamergate isn´t about harassment and the Postal 2 tweet was funny. Stop caving to the always offended mob, they´re not your customers.
How is apologizing for saying something that offended someone caving? There's two things I have to say about that.

1. By saying they "caved" it implies that they had a position to defend. Do you think that someone making a joke is the same as making a statement of belief on a subject?

2. The second thing, and this is in response to the general whining from the same people that pops up every time GOG apologizes for a tweet they made that offends someone (strangely only ever about trans people). What is wrong with apologizing when you offend someone? Do you honestly mean to say that is in real life you said something that offended someone (regardless of whether or not you though it was offensive) and they said, "Hey that hurt my feelings", your response would be to tell them to grow a pair that it's their problem they were offended? No one does that in real life. You would give a half hearted apology about offending them and call it a day, the same way GOG did. Doing anything other than that just makes you a jerk. So why expect a company, who actually has a business interest in keeping people happy, to do anything less than what a normal person would do in the same situation?
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51nikopol: I like point and click adventure games!!
me too
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Telika: gog's Codes of Conduct and enforcements
Well, there is a reason why General Rule #4 states:

Do not intentionally insult or offend others.
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51nikopol: I like point and click adventure games!!
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fortune_p_dawg: me too
And now we have hijacked another social activists' hashtag! Get ready for someone somewhere being triggered.
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CharlesGrey: Agreed. To me, there's only two acceptable ways to handle this: Either 1) GOG stop posting such jokes entirely, and just stick to a dry, more serious business tone
Great idea. Let's keep on doing this until everything's so boring that people don't know wether to check the "I'm not a robot"-captcha or not. Let's erase (<- yeah, I used that word) everything that could be funny.

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CharlesGrey: , or 2) if they really think these jokes are funny, and there's nothing offensive about it, they should stand up for it, and not do a 180 as soon as someone complains.
But what if they don't think it's funny to spit on LGBQT people's feelings (edit: and just deleted it when they realized that some people could think they're doing this on purpose)? What if they just saw the hashtag and thought it's a fitting hashtag to remember people that they're keeping old games updated for new systems? Maybe the person who abused every queer person in this world by misusing that hashtag didn't think that someone would feel offended by a silly marketing gag? What if we don't live in a world where everyone either wants to erase all LGBQT-scum or embraces the idea that every queer person absolutely has to get their butthole kissed for having set their precious foot on our planet? What if there are people that just don't follow LGBQT-news on every single day of their lives?

Honestly, I think LGBQT community should have the same rights as cis-subhumans like me. But at the same time they should learn to live with the fact that non-LGBQT people will use LGBQT terms to make some harmless jokes. It's like... a woman saying "Suck my d*ck" instead of "Yeah, forget about that".

Seriously, people... Grow up. Not everyone who isn't aware of every single one of your problems isn't a homo/trans/whateverphobic piece of shit.
Post edited October 24, 2018 by real.geizterfahr
Stop mobbing to the cave!
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lolplatypus: Because patterns.
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Gersen: What patterns ? they make dozens if not hundreds of similar post, taking some random hashtags, some random gifs or random meme and makes a comment about DRM-free or old games using it.

That's it, that's your pattern. 99% of the time nobody cares (and honestly 99% of the time the "joke" is not really funny), but sometime they use the wrong gif or the wrong hashtags and some goes peoples goes berserk.

They probably didn't thought that an innocuous sounding hashtag like "wontbeerased" would be a nuclear power keg and when they discovered it they immediately removed the tweet.

Like I said last time, given how stupidly volatile the current climate is, especially on twitter with peoples having nothing better to do then taking every single word you post out of context to see if there is anything they could be offended by, it's a dangerous things to do, every single hand gesture, gifs or word can become a "hate symbol" without warning and unless you have always up to date on the current twitter drama (especially the US based ones) those kind of "mistakes" are bound to happen.

Maybe their "concentrate on games" comments will mean they will stop trying to be the next Wendy and will only post gaming related news on their Twitter from now on.
You're wildly exaggerating the difficulty of being careful, but even if you were right, the smart thing to do would be to play it safe and forego trying to be trendy.

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CharlesGrey: Agreed. To me, there's only two acceptable ways to handle this: Either 1) GOG stop posting such jokes entirely, and just stick to a dry, more serious business tone
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real.geizterfahr: Great idea. Let's keep on doing this until everything's so boring that people don't know wether to check the "I'm not a robot"-captcha or not. Let's erase (<- yeah, I used that word) everything that could be funny.

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CharlesGrey: , or 2) if they really think these jokes are funny, and there's nothing offensive about it, they should stand up for it, and not do a 180 as soon as someone complains.
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real.geizterfahr: But what if they don't think it's funny to spit on LGBQT people's feelings? What if they just saw the hashtag and thought it's a fitting hashtag to remember people that they're keeping old games updated for new systems? Maybe the person who abused every queer person in this world by misusing that hashtag didn't think that someone would feel offended by a silly marketing gag? What if we don't live in a world where everyone either wants to erase all LGBQT-scum or embraces the idea that every queer person absolutely has to get their butthole kissed for having set their precious foot on our planet? What if there are people that just don't follow LGBQT-news on every single day of their lives?

Honestly, I think LGBQT community should have the same rights as cis-subhumans like me. But at the same time they should learn to live with the fact that non-LGBQT people will use LGBQT terms to make some harmless jokes. It's like... a woman saying "Suck my d*ck" instead of "Yeah, forget about that".

Seriously, people... Grow up. Not everyone who isn't aware of every single one of your problems isn't a homo/trans/whateverphobic piece of shit.
That isn't going to happen as long as people are being programmed to be offended.
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I think that the guy writing the GOG tweet simple saw the #wewontbeerased hashtag somewhere and said, ok, it's popular, why don't we use it. And then people started crying.
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blotunga: I think that the guy writing the GOG tweet simple saw the #wewontbeerased hashtag somewhere and said, ok, it's popular, why don't we use it. And then people started crying.
If he'd taken a half minute to pop it into a search engine he'd have known why it was trouble.

12 and 13 year olds understand these sorts of things. But not GOG employees.
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Dalthnock: Every cloud has a silver lining.

I did consider purchasing the Gamer movie series, quite recently. It had a nice discount if you bought them all.

Dodged a bullet there. Whew.

Now, being serious for just a second - does anyone believe that if those movies were selling, they'd have pulled out?

My bet is they haven't sold anything for years, and thus it was easy to virtue signal over this.

"We put values over profit", said the man with nothing worth selling.
"We put profit over values", said the man with nothing worth buying.

Pick your poison.
Post edited October 24, 2018 by richlind33
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Dalthnock: Now, being serious for just a second - does anyone believe that if those movies were selling, they'd have pulled out?

My bet is they haven't sold anything for years, and thus it was easy to virtue signal over this.

"We put values over profit", said the man with nothing worth selling.
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richlind33: "We put profit over values", said the man with nothing worth buying.

Pick your poison.
I'm pretty sure they would've put profit over values, IF the movies were selling. That's my point.

Don't trust the political opinions of someone with something to sell.
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blotunga: I think that the guy writing the GOG tweet simple saw the #wewontbeerased hashtag somewhere and said, ok, it's popular, why don't we use it.
It doesn't matter if he was or wasn't. The problem is that "won't be erased" can be applied to a whole lot of things (or people for that matter). But now because of current political climate only transgender people can use it.

Note, that tweet itself didn't use that hashtag in some malicious or unrespecting manner. In fact, it was describing similar situation and if anything that tweet could make gamers to relate to transgender people, since they had to share same problems with the law. But no transgender people (or their supporters) cared if by accident people who liked old games could become aware of some "minority" issues. All they cared about was not allow white straight cis male gamers to taint hashtag with their filthy white cis male hands.


They probably didn't thought that an innocuous sounding hashtag like "wontbeerased" would be a nuclear power keg and when they discovered it they immediately removed the tweet.

Won't be erased only exists as a hashtag in the context of the trans rights conversation going on right now. Making light of the intention of the government to strip a class of people of their rights is a very politically charged thing to do, and if unintentional, it IS a big deal kind of mistake- and one that GOG's twitter has made before.

I love GOG's games storefront, but there is no need whatsoever for them to post cheeky comments about life changing issues.