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Posted April 26, 2015
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zippythezip: I just read that the Nexus mods have sgned up with Steam to be a "service provider"
This means modders in the steam workshop can name nexus and then valve and nexus share the money.
Man we are all drowning in a sea of greed here.
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fishbaits: You got a link for this please? Couldn`t find it anywhere.

As for steam`ers, seems some remain stupid...
Here is one modder who has one of the most popular mods. He talks about how Valve is taking only 25% of the revenue, and giving the other 5% to Nexus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_N10OTtQyI
Posted April 26, 2015
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zippythezip: I just read that the Nexus mods have sgned up with Steam to be a "service provider"
This means modders in the steam workshop can name nexus and then valve and nexus share the money.
Man we are all drowning in a sea of greed here.
"the Nexus now needs to earn $500,000 a year in order to pay for the servers, the CDN, the bandwidth, the database cluster, the firewalls, the legal counsel, the accountants and the programmers."
Source: Nexus blog post about Steam Service Providers

Greed?

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Screamshield: Wow nexus jumped off the cliff with no parachute.

F* them too.

We can pirate mods for all i care.
Read the source link I posted above to get where they come from and why they go that road - as you obviously have no clue about it.
And pirating mods? Yeah, shows just how much you care about modding or modders. At all.
Post edited April 26, 2015 by Siannah
Posted April 26, 2015
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zippythezip: I just read that the Nexus mods have sgned up with Steam to be a "service provider"
This means modders in the steam workshop can name nexus and then valve and nexus share the money.
Man we are all drowning in a sea of greed here.
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fishbaits: You got a link for this please? Couldn`t find it anywhere.

As for steam`ers, seems some remain stupid...
I am also considering removing my content from the Nexus. Why? The problem is that Robin et al, for perfectly good political reasons, have positioned themselves as essentially the champions of free mods and that they would never implement a for-pay system. However, The Nexus is a listed Service Provider on the curated Workshop, and they are profiting from Workshop sales. They are saying one thing, while simultaneously taking their cut. I'm not sure I'm comfortable supporting that any longer. I may just host my mods on my own site for anyone who is interested.
https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/33qcaj/the_experiment_has_failed_my_exit_from_the/

Somewhere on the workshop there's also links to the nexus but I can't find it atm.

People on some mods mention it as well like the Purity mod:
Special thanks to all gamers who have used my creations during the past 3 years. When you buy this mod, a part of the profits is donated to the Nexus Mods site.

Thanks to Bethesda and Valve for their support and their trust.

Laast
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=428272802
Posted April 26, 2015
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fishbaits: As for steam`ers, seems some remain stupid...
There we go with DRM-Free=Pirate again. I smell a shill...
Post edited April 26, 2015 by Grargar
Posted April 26, 2015
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Grargar: There we go with DRM-Free=Pirate again. I smell a shill...
Just report that scumbag .
Posted April 26, 2015
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ashtonx: Actually it can work in a way.
CS used to be a mod
dota 2 is financed by mods
tf2 is making money on mods.
CS used to be a mod, but the people licensed the engine properly and made a proper game out of it with clean underpinnings, not something held together by spit and bubble gum. Plus there was a real publisher behind it, someone you could hold accountable, not some kid why may or may not provide customer service.

DOTA 2 and FT 2 mods are just graphics assets, so there is no risk in breaking anything. Mods that involve scripting are an entirely different beast though.
Posted April 26, 2015
Given Bethesda's opening to paid mods it'll be interesting to see which, if any other publisher has the balls to be next for using it.

If they're smart about it they'll give most of their cut to the modders
Posted April 26, 2015
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ashtonx: Actually it can work in a way.
CS used to be a mod
dota 2 is financed by mods
tf2 is making money on mods.
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HiPhish: CS used to be a mod, but the people licensed the engine properly and made a proper game out of it with clean underpinnings, not something held together by spit and bubble gum. Plus there was a real publisher behind it, someone you could hold accountable, not some kid why may or may not provide customer service.

DOTA 2 and FT 2 mods are just graphics assets, so there is no risk in breaking anything. Mods that involve scripting are an entirely different beast though.
Yeah my point is mods can make money, however only if it's done properly, what valve pulled out is exactly how you shouldn't try to make money on mods.
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Pheace: Given Bethesda's opening to paid mods it'll be interesting to see which, if any other publisher has the balls to be next for using it.

If they're smart about it they'll give most of their cut to the modders
Well i know one thing for sure i ain't gonna buy next bethesda game.
Post edited April 26, 2015 by ashtonx
Posted April 26, 2015
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ashtonx: Well i know one thing for sure i ain't gonna buy next bethesda game.
Saying that on this forum isn't saying much since half the people here wouldn't do that anyway since it most likely isn't coming to GOG.

And while a lot of people may say the same now, I really don't think many people will stick to it, particularly if E3 rolls around and Bethesda use the F-word in a big reveal announcement. I still remember the big 'Boycott Modern Warfare group' and we saw how that went shortly after release. (link)
Post edited April 26, 2015 by Pheace
Posted April 26, 2015
I have had enough of Valve's BS. They are nickel and diming people at every corner now, be it through stupid weapon skins and hats or through mods, which have always been free and are now turning into 3rd party DLC. So here I am, I have made the switch to GOG. GOG Galaxy can't come fast enough.
Posted April 26, 2015
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ashtonx: Well i know one thing for sure i ain't gonna buy next bethesda game.
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Pheace: Saying that on this forum isn't saying much since half the people here wouldn't do that anyway since it most likely isn't coming to GOG.

And while a lot of people may say the same now, I really don't think many people will stick to it, particularly if E3 rolls around and Bethesda use the F-word in a big reveal announcement. I still remember the big 'Boycott Modern Warfare group' and we saw how that went shortly after release. (link)
I think what may happen is scare away other publishers/devs or even modders from wanting a curated workshop due to the bad press. What will be interesting is if Valve incorporates a true donate button (with a $0 amount). What the reaction will be then.
Posted April 26, 2015
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ashtonx: Well i know one thing for sure i ain't gonna buy next bethesda game.
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Pheace: Saying that on this forum isn't saying much since half the people here wouldn't do that anyway since it most likely isn't coming to GOG.

And while a lot of people may say the same now, I really don't think many people will stick to it, particularly if E3 rolls around and Bethesda use the F-word in a big reveal announcement. I still remember the big 'Boycott Modern Warfare group' and we saw how that went shortly after release. (link)
Umm yeah, actually i tend to stick by those. Also prolly only cod game i've got is modern warfare, those game are nice rental time killer, play few h and forget. Not worth buying though.
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synfresh: I think what may happen is scare away other publishers/devs or even modders from wanting a curated workshop due to the bad press. What will be interesting is if Valve incorporates a true donate button (with a $0 amount). What the reaction will be then.
I'm guessing if they went this way from begining there would be no shitstorm to begin with, only some whining.
And yeah it's likely to hurt any chances of monetizing mods for years. Not because it's such a bad idea but it's prolly worst implementation ever.
Post edited April 26, 2015 by ashtonx
Posted April 26, 2015
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synfresh: I think what may happen is scare away other publishers/devs or even modders from wanting a curated workshop due to the bad press. What will be interesting is if Valve incorporates a true donate button (with a $0 amount). What the reaction will be then.
Speaking for myself, my reaction remains unchanged -- I refuse to use the system as long as the developers/publishers get a portion of the sale, which enables a conflict of interest.
Posted April 26, 2015
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ashtonx: Umm yeah, actually i tend to stick by those. Also prolly only cod game i've got is modern warfare, those game are nice rental time killer, play few h and forget. Not worth buying though.
Sorry, didn't mean to say no one will/you won't. I was saying that most won't (as in the COD case I mentioned/linked). GOG (forums) tends to have a pretty hardcore group of people who are a bit more adamant about their opinions than the average gamer so I have no doubt you and others here are more likely to stick to their opinion on it.
Posted April 26, 2015
So are creators of mods free to charge something or even nothing for their mods?
Or can valve just gain some money with a mod that someone else made?
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