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timppu: EDIT: Well, since the titles says this is SW Ep 8, I guess I haven't seen only two of them then? Damn I am bright, I can count! I could have sworn there have been like 3 or 5 of SW movies after the first six, but maybe there has been just so much talk over one or two movies (and their trailers).
There was also Rogue One, a standalone prequel set right before the first movie (ep 4, the original Star Wars).

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timppu: I presume the trailer where everyone was miffed that one of the Empire soldiers in white plastic armor turned out to be afro-american, was Ep 7 then?
Yep, that was 7. John Boyega is English, though. His character is one of the new main cast.

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timppu: I have a similar problem with e.g. Batman movies, I am unsure how many of them have appeared in, say, the last decade, and which exactly of them I've seen so far. Not sure if those Superman vs Spiderman vs Batman movies are counted to that as well.
Only the three with Nolan, and two ensemble movies. Spiderman is a Marvel character; before Disney buys WB he stands a better chance to appear in Star Wars.
Thanks, now I know more. So I wasn't imaging it then there being more that two new SW movies.

I think the last Nolan(?) Batman I've seen is the one where that dead actor (who earlier played that gay cowboy in another movie) played Joker and they robbed a bank in the beginning... but I am unsure if I've even seen the whole movie because frankly I don't even remember how that movie ends. Nor do I remember the iconic "growling Batman is interrogating Joker"-scene, of which I must have seen a few hundred comedy videos on Youtube.

It is possible I've started watching the movie on TV, but fell asleep. Like two days ago I tried to watch that Lone Ranger movie where Jack Sparrow is playing Tonto the Native American... the last scene I remember before falling asleep was when the rangers were massacred and Tonto would bury them.

EDIT: Scratch that, now I remember. I didn't fall asleep. I just found that Lone Ranger movie so damn boring that I switched to another channel where they were showing The Last Mohican, so I watched that instead even though I've seen it several times before. Now there is a great movie! The end fight with the bad Huron native American gets a tear to my eye and a piece in my throat every time, no matter how many times I see it (I don't know the correct idiom in English, "saada pala kurkkuun" = be so moved by some scene that you feel like there is a piece of something in your throat, not being able to swallow.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8ZisDHg6v0

This is all so confusing nowadays, in my childhood it was all so much easier to comprehend. And i wouldn't fall asleep so easily during movies either, even if watching three full movies in a row from VHS video tapes.
Post edited December 18, 2017 by timppu
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johnnygoging: and I'm kind of bummed nobody showed up to say "I've got a bad feeling about this" before the perfectly crafted spoiler switcharoo post showed up. I mean come on this is the Star Wars thread!
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tinyE: Was that said in VIII?

It just occurred to me I don't remember if it was.

It must have and I missed it.

The movie does one thing consistently and that going against the series norms so somehow I wouldn't be shocked if they skipped it.
I was wondering too. Turns out the droid said it. Ha ha ha, they really got us on that one!
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timppu:
EDIT: …(I don't know the correct idiom in English, "saada pala kurkkuun" = be so moved by some scene that you feel like there is a piece of something in your throat, not being able to swallow.)
I used to know the phrase, I know I've heard something like that before. But with the way our journalism has been these recent decades nobody feels that way anymore, so no one says such phrases. And nobody speaks like that in our movies. Probably in some older written works…somewhere.
good thing i just scrolled straight to the bottoom soo i dont need to see spoilers lol i havent seen the movie as yet but im planning on it today so yeah im hoping its good tho
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timppu: I don't know the correct idiom in English, "saada pala kurkkuun" = be so moved by some scene that you feel like there is a piece of something in your throat, not being able to swallow.)
In English, people mostly just say "Now I've got a lump in my throat" :)
Do not know what to think about the new Star Wars movie, guess I have to let it sink in a bit. A lot of filler stuff, not a "real" story, it seemed a bit all over the place storywise.

Hamill looked like in total disbelief what he just saw and after that he looked like he is about to kill the director.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEkf6OkosNQ

Well one thing is for sure, diversity and inclusivity in movies does not count for the empire apart from Finn, the guy that deserted - lol.
Post edited December 18, 2017 by MaGo72
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MaGo72: Hamill looked like in total disbelief what he just saw and after that he looked like he is about to kill the director.
uh, about that
SHOUT-OUT to @rianjohnson for no particular reason other than being my friend, collaborator & guru. You quelled my fears, listened to my endless stream of terrible ideas & occasionally used a few here & there. #GenialGenius #ThanksFromAGr8fulPadawan
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MaGo72: Hamill looked like in total disbelief what he just saw and after that he looked like he is about to kill the director.
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Starmaker: uh, about that

SHOUT-OUT to @rianjohnson for no particular reason other than being my friend, collaborator & guru. You quelled my fears, listened to my endless stream of terrible ideas & occasionally used a few here & there. #GenialGenius #ThanksFromAGr8fulPadawan
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Starmaker:
Nevertheless, a happy face looks not like that, either it was hard to take it in that his legend was ended in this movie or he was about to get a stroke.
Post edited December 18, 2017 by MaGo72
Or he was just told that regardless of how he feels about the development of his character, he is still contractually obligated to appear in the next eighty Star Wars movies, with immediate forfeiture of all of his assets AND his children to Disney, should he fail to honor his contract.
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tinyE: Or he was just told that regardless of how he feels about the development of his character, he is still contractually obligated to appear in the next eighty Star Wars movies, with immediate forfeiture of all of his assets AND his children to Disney, should he fail to honor his contract.
Or he was constipated. He is an old man.
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tinyE: Or he was just told that regardless of how he feels about the development of his character, he is still contractually obligated to appear in the next eighty Star Wars movies, with immediate forfeiture of all of his assets AND his children to Disney, should he fail to honor his contract.
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DaCostaBR: Or he was constipated. He is an old man.
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1. If you're constantly photographed and recorded on video, there will be shots in which you look tired, because, you know, reread the sentence.
2. It's been established that Mark Hamill doesn't give a fuck. Over the last two days, he fought Ajit Pai, one of the trumpbros, AND the Zodiac killer.
Ok, I've finally seen it (a bit late to the party, I know). I'll have to precess this for a while, but here are my immediate thoughts.

SPOILERS FOLLOW!!!

It's better than Force Awakens (low set bar that one, but still). Not as good as Rogue One, not to mention the original trilogy. Still, I mostly enjoyed it.

The good stuff.
The opening, although the set up is total rip-off of Empire Strikes Back (more on that in a moment), is a really great sequence.

Hamill is great and has more to work with here than I think he ever did, let's him show more of his acting talent. Even if I'm not entirely on board with Luke's character in these new movies Hamill is so good he sells it. And I liked the Yoda cameo. A lot of good stuff, both funny and poignant there on that planet. And elsewhere Poe had more to do this time, and defiantely is my favourite of the new cast. He's really the only one that has any charisma or personality.

Overall, most of the film, despite the flaws I'll go into, was fun to watch, with some really good visuals.

Now the bad stuff.

It's overlong. It drags at times, and most of everything to do with Finn and his mission is really totaly pointless. Every time we cut back to him and that casino planet I'd groan and wish we could stay with Luke. And Rey, I guess, though Rey is still mostly bland and boring. I so wish they cast someone else in that role.

BB-8 is ridiculous in this movie. That droid is awesome at everything, he can do everything. Why does anynone build giant AT-ATs and battle droids and has armies of troopers? Just build an army of BB-8s! They are the ultimate weapon!

Leia's scene. The space scene. My god, I have not laughed this much in a cinema in a long time. Terrible and hilarious.

Finn's suicide run. Would have been great... if it had the proper conclusion. Saving him was lame, anticlimactic and made no sense. Yay, let's save one guy and lose the battle and doom us all, including that one guy!

This time they are fortunately not ripping-off one movie wholesale, but still there is a shitload of scenes ripped straight from the original trilogy. It's not just similiar, it's shot for shot, line for line. I get that it's intentional, but whatever they were going for, I still found it jarring.

Snoke goes out like a bitch. We still don't know who or what he was, and now we're out of any decent villains. Because Kylo... I'm sorry, he still sucks. Maybe not as much as in the Force Awakens, but as a main villain, he is still weak.

And there was no reason admiral Hondo couldn't just tell Poe her plan and avoid a lot of mess.

And finally - how in the fuck did we even get here? Apparently the First Order took over the Galaxy OFF SCREEN. Between movies. Even though this movie begins pretty much immediately after the previous one. And that one ended with First Order getting their asses kicked. Man, the Republic really sucks. Maybe we should stop rebuilding it.
Post edited December 19, 2017 by Breja
After finally watching it...well, this movie is bipolar. It's great fun and has some very nice scenes, only to counter them with others that just leave you thinking they let the cleaning lady have her way with the script for a couple of minutes - Leia's "return from the dead" is one of them. I won't say much more, since the post above mine does cover quite a bit of what I think about it (with just a couple of differences here and there), and there's no need to write the same thing all over again.

I'm not sure if I expected it to be better, but I didn't dislike it. While it was something of a rollercoaster, it was enjoyable to watch.