hand-drawn has never, and will not, go quietly. look up michel gagne, jhonen vasquez, pendleton ward, jg quintel, all of these guys contributed to this form of art; flash is awesome, but hand-drawn has soul. the lion king, which had next to no cgi (the stampede sequence) is just as awesome as when it was released. the reason why cgi and flash is used is because it's cheap, but they try to copy or emulate hand-drawn; why bother respecting an art form if it's no longer relevant? not the case here. the simpsons still stands strong, adventure time continues, hand drawn animation goes on.


sorry if i come across as angry, but i'm not; i just can't stand hearing that 2d is a no-go.

And Hobbit's CGI will look dated in a few years too. LotR practical effects however, don't and won't.

The Hobbit's wolfs looked way worse on release day, than LotR wargs do now.

Calm down, dude. No one is going to take your precious fake looking instantly dated CGI away. I'm not leading some Butlerian Jihad against all computers. If you were not so emotional in your defence of CGI, you'd notice that I said it's best to use both, blend them for the best possible effect, like in Interstellar. But you were way to busy throwing a tantrum about Batman and Superman for some reason :D

I can't help the fact, that CGI looks fake to me. I did not decide to like practical effects more to sound cool, it's just what I honestly think. Jim Henson build whole fantastic worlds for his movies, all practical. When something like that is attempted with all CGI, the result is always poor. Peter Jackson's King Kong, Avatar, Maleficent... it's just not fooling anyone.

And does that make Flash better or traditional 2-d worse? No. So what exactly does that prove?

Sorry about its just that everytime I get into this discussion with CGI versus Practical Effects I get increadibly agitated in that I feel I am the only one who admires CGI effects when done awesomely. I loved King Kong 2005 it blew me away when I first seen it aswell as the Pirates movies like Davy Jones and the Maelstrom battle.

In the end though I came to the conclusion that Practical Effects or CGI, Traditonal Animation or Flash and 3D CGI. How does it affect our enjoyment on Story, Characters, and Presentation.

I have lately desired a Traditionally drawn 2D animated adaption of the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings books that is completely 100% faithful to the source.

And no those earlier 2 animated adaptions are not as up to snuff imo.

And yeah its still sad that even Disney is no longer making any Traditional Animation.

disney needs to go back to its roots; before the wireframe, there were cells (animation cells).

have you read the saga of rex? that book was made by michel gagne, and is now being turned into a film. look up michel gagne on youtube, and you'll find the the tease for the film, as well as other stuff.

Hope you enjoy your emasculated Star Wars. You are clearly a very good, loyal Star Wars fan. You're who they're marketing towards. I'm sure this new patronizing, shallow Star Wars universe will be right up your alley.

I agree completely. CGI has its place, but so do practical effects. In ep IV the dogfights look dated, but by the time ROTJ comes along, they look amazing and still hold up today. And, IMO, better than CGI dogfights today. Now, I can imagine the model dogfights from ROTJ with some CGI mixed in to clean things up and it would be better than any all CGI cartoon movie done today.

I just can't get over the lack of tactile depth the trailer and today's CGI has.

It can certainly affect the enjoyment of the story and characters. There have been so many movies that I've ended up focusing more on the effects than the story, and very few where the story has led me to forget the cheezy CGI. The first Pirates of the Caribbean was such a movie. The last sequel was the former.

The exception to this rule has always been the first Jurassic Park. This is the only movie I can still watch today and the effects still hold up. It's also a movie that used plenty of practical effects.

Stop motion has come a long way since the 80s, even though it's a dying art.

This trailer was one of those times I rolled my eyes and focused on the cheesy CGI. Every single scene was full of it. Arguably the best scene, the part where the X-Wings are flying low, was great but it could've been better had they used a real background or simpler lighting. The thing you get (Thanks Lucas) when you go all CGI is that directors think they should use such magnificent lighting in every scene. Everything's got to be hyper-realistic and that affects the film in a way that the viewer can't connect.

Hope you enjoy being a childish douche. You're clearly a bitter, infantile man. I'm sure this patronizing, shallow way of talking with other people is right up your alley.

From my understanding, she was a Mandalorian fighter of some sort, in an imperial school, but something happened and she got away. If I were being indoctrinated into a government program for years and got free, I'd probably be all about color as well. There is a bit too much teenage angst in that show, but it seems to be a reflection of society. :)

Let's take a minute here to remind you just what Boba Fett is in the context of the original movie trilogy - a bounty hunter wearing some cool armor who had exactly one fight, a few short lines, and was killed in an undignified accident. Gender is not part of the character, because there is no character. Anyone in the galaxy could be in that suit. Without knowledge added from the prequels or novels (way after Fett had already become iconic), we couldn't even be sure he was a guy when not five minutes before, Leia was in another suit with a masculine voice changer. For all you know there's a scene of Boba Fett pulling a Samus Aran in one of the drafts of the script which was cut for time.

Yeah! You got it, exactly! ;) "New BUT broken" would even sound better, in a way like " yeh yeh yeh get lost with your blabla, we don't care about"...
"Made in Germany" is out, soon the new branding will be "Yup. Actually made in germany. You'd have never guess that huh? *lol* " So world, get prepared for the new german invasion... The invasion of junk and dumb Dipl.-Ing.'s ;D

You're right, it's not about gender. Because adding tits and lady swagger to Boba Fett does NOT add value to the character. IT IS PURE MARKETING.

This is not just patronizing. It is a poor facsimile... of something that is already facsimile.

I enjoy the old CG Cinematics in old PC and PS1 games even though the Cinemativs in Starcraft 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-00uQzXyujI

Looks dated compared to SWracraft 2's cinematics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7d5XheWiBk

But I still love that Starcraft 1 intro because of the awesome voice acting and the nostalgia of what realistic graphics uesd to look like in these old cinmematics.