I don't think you understood me at all. I wasn't complaining about reusing the plot. I was defending the show from accusations of doing something "true" Trek would never do, by pointing out something very, very similiar was already done in Trek years ago.

I see! We're never too old to have a good old fashioned misunderstanding. ;-)
(Can I call it a sign of respect? Why were you getting into "Trekkie arguments? You know how pointless those can be. ;-) )

Anyway, at least we're not rambling about it for 45 minutes on Youtube, calling it a review. :-P

In Voyager it was established that they used the old EMH for slave labor. Which makes sense, if something goes wrong the most damage you get are some busted hologram emitters. But with Androids, you would never see a return of investment, if even one get's damaged while welding or carrying stuff.

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I've only seen 2 episodes, but didn't they say that they weren't even near at replicating a "Data". That the androids that attacked Mars were very functional but didn't contain any of Soong's "special sauce".

Return of investment? I've never seen a cost comparison between producing/installing holodeck emitters and the creation of a basic android.

I've seen a lot more inconsistencies in Enterprise and Discovery, but this show just started. Details...

Possibly, but it still seems to me like quite jump to go from no androids whatsoever to mass produced fully functional ones in just 6 years. I guess I just don't understand why not have those events happen a bit later, say 15 years after Nemesis, still leaving 5 years for Picard to spend in retirement (quite enough, I think).

But yeah, those are details, and if the show picks up the pace and doesn't piss me off with anything new, I won't be inclined to nitpick so much.

Well, unless they managed to duplicate the mobile emitter future-tech, holograms would have very limited use.

Picard series was already discussed here: Honestly, I don't remember that. I mean, I remember torpedo, but it were Klingons, not Humans.

There was a conspiracy between Klingon and Starfleet hardliners who were both opposed to the peace initiative (that female Vulcan officer on the Enterprise was part of it). And background to the whole story was that Chernobyl-like moon near the Klingon home world blowing up.
Anyway, I liked TNG, but have zero interest in this Picard show, imo Star Trek is pretty much dead. imo it's a mistake that they're putting so heavy emphasis on over-arching storylines in all the new shows, this was already annoying in the Enterprise series (wow, that was already 20 years ago, how time flies), though I suppose the older more episodic format would feel outdated today.

I had held out a tiny, smallest, of hopes that Patrick Stewart would make a difference, but it seems he is here for a payday (and why not, as he is getting on a bit) rather than try to steer Trek back on track.

Abrams has succesfully destroyed two of my all time favourite sci-fi franchises, Trek and Star Wars. It's almost like he hated the original sources before getting involved in them? Or at the very least totally not 'getting' them and what made them classics in the sci-fi genre (well developed stories and characters)?

Rather than boldly go into the depths of space, Picard is far more interested in exploring the depths of its famous leader. In doing so, the series more than justifies its existence in today's nostalgia-driven era.

Smart, well-crafted, layered - verging on over-layered.

Picard is Trek through and through, full of thorny ethical quandaries, social allegories, sinister admirals, and an undercurrent of optimism in spite of it all.
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I think you need to rewatch the film. Or at least read a wiki entry about a certain admiral.

He did that all by himself? Wow!
Anyway, Abrams had no involvement in ST: Picard, or in any of the other Star Trek tv series.

Sshh. Histerically rage-whining about Abrams is apparently the fashionable thing to do now. No point trying to reason with people doing it.

Thanks, now I recall it - how Humans, Vulcans, Klingons and Romulans joined together in conspiracy to prevent Humans and Klingons from joining together.
When talking about Star Wars you really shouldn't forget about Kennedy. She is a woman and in this day and age women should be properly credited for their contributions.

Yeah, like the peeps who rage-whine about Trump. I feel ya, bruh. lol