Breja: except for maybe Poe Dameron (who was originally supposed to die 1/3 way into the movie and stay dead)
Ah, that's why I liked him. I wish they'd approached the whole new trilogy exactly the same way.
Breja: and then both Ray and Finn grew up without their parents, and no one (seemingly) knows who their parents are.
"Hur hur hur we aren't telling their surnames on purpose." It's as dumb as, say, keeping Luke's surname secret all the way through 4 and 5, and then it turns out to be
Vader. "Why didn't you tell us?" "Er, idunno, it just never came up?"
Breja: As for villains, this movie had a fuckton of them, they just were not all that interesting. My favourite example is Captain Phasma
Captain Phasma isn't a proper villain, she's an obligatory 10-point disadvantage Finn got due to being a rogue stormtrooper, and now neither Finn's player nor the GM know how to integrate her into the campaign.
Breja: So why is she there? Because Boba Fett. Because they want so much to reproduce those characters from the old movies that the fans liked so much and found so interesting despite them being on the screen for just a few minutes. But it can't be forced, and I don't believe anyone gave a fuck.
It can be "forced", as in, written competently, it's just the screenwriters couldn't do it. Boba Fett felt like there was more to him (even though there wasn't). Phasma is "this space intentionally left blank", to be perhaps filled later with the background test audiences like best.
The fundamental problem is that they can't write to surprise anymore. Viewers
shouldn't guess (or not guess)
which of the plot building blocks will get used next, they should
wonder. Kylo Ren will be "redeemed", or he won't, or he was a mole all along -- we've seen every variant with scores of Solo and Skywalker dudes. But if he were a 30+ swordswoman, that would be a non-cliche character, and people would go, "whoa, I
can't predict what happens next, but I want to find out".
There's a great character in DROD 2, the 39th Slayer. I enter the room, plan my solution, proceed to play it out and he's like, "Hello motherfucker!" SW7 should have had at least two active masterminds, like in a three-body problem. One implements a plan, the heroes react (and the viewer is left
guessing), then the second villain's plan throws everything into disarray, the heroes are up the shit creek without a paddle, they struggle to survive, and then Kylo Ren is like "Hello motherfuckers!"
Breja: I'll be surprised if anyone remembers her name in two weeks.
Oh cmon, it's Star Wars. People remember the names of the cantina band players.