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All this time and not one update. I'm blown away by this. If they set up some sort of Backerkit they might generate more money. I was seriously considering throwing in the cash for a PS4 version but waiting until payday then the thing vanished.

Speaking of Backerkits how do they work? Can anyone set one up? I saw some other ones I wanted to pledge to and I'm not trying to get ripped off.
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NVash: All this time and not one update. I'm blown away by this. If they set up some sort of Backerkit they might generate more money. I was seriously considering throwing in the cash for a PS4 version but waiting until payday then the thing vanished.

Speaking of Backerkits how do they work? Can anyone set one up? I saw some other ones I wanted to pledge to and I'm not trying to get ripped off.
is the project dead, since no news since july?
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NVash: All this time and not one update. I'm blown away by this. If they set up some sort of Backerkit they might generate more money. I was seriously considering throwing in the cash for a PS4 version but waiting until payday then the thing vanished.

Speaking of Backerkits how do they work? Can anyone set one up? I saw some other ones I wanted to pledge to and I'm not trying to get ripped off.
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apehater: is the project dead, since no news since july?
Can't be. No way in the World Yu just took the money and ran. It's just odd that they haven't said much of anything in a month.

http://www.shenmuedojo.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=48634
Okay I stand corrected. In the end of July there was talk of this Kickstarter allowing Paypal payments. How and what people get I have no idea because that bit.ly link doesn't work.

http://www.shenmuedojo.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=48888
August 3rd Yu was interviewed again.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1081139&page=53
NeoGaf seems to be discussing playing the original games, nothing else.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/comments
They're not even discussing Shenmue in the Kickstarter comments.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/updates
http://www.shenmuedojo.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=5&sid=9370c6819b862945b4a9ed1f73a18c39
But it seems like otherwise there is zero information.

Oh and we all know Grandia II has recently been released in HD for PC. Sega would be idiots to not drop Shenmue I and II right now. And while they're at it they can throw in Skies of Arcadia.
Post edited August 31, 2015 by NVash
I think the lack of information is due to the project itself. Most kickstarters are (pre)alpha versions of the game and there is something to show. Shenmue kickstarter started with nothing except some artworks and the storyline from 15 years ago. Everything is ok but I never believed and believe even less now that the release date will be dec 17.

There was an official update recently though.
it gets odd, after kickstarter, which offered a pc and ps4 version, suzuki tried additionally to fund on another crowdfunding page. then stopped this attempt for some reasons. now the shenmue 3 project tries to additionally fund them on their own webpage.

AND NO WORD ABOUT A PC VERSION, WTF!

maybe they lied about the amount of money needed to make this game. as i mentioned earlier, 10 millions wouldn't be enough to make real shenmue 3! and it is clear now that they won't see a cent from sega or sony for development.

Q: "Why is the PC version of Shenmue III not offered on this website?"
A: "At the moment, we are discussing the PC version with the related parties."
Post edited September 20, 2015 by apehater
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apehater: it gets odd, after kickstarter, which offered a pc and ps4 version, suzuki tried additionally to fund on another crowdfunding page. then stopped this attempt for some reasons. now the shenmue 3 project tries to additionally fund them on their own webpage.

AND NO WORD ABOUT A PC VERSION, WTF!

maybe they lied about the amount of money needed to make this game. as i mentioned earlier, 10 millions wouldn't be enough to make real shenmue 3! and it is clear now that they won't see a cent from sega or sony for development.

Q: "Why is the PC version of Shenmue III not offered on this website?"
A: "At the moment, we are discussing the PC version with the related parties."
Than how much is need to make a Shenmue game 100 Million like SWTOR?

Personally I just hope they find someway to make an HD re-release of the first 2 games.
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apehater: it gets odd, after kickstarter, which offered a pc and ps4 version, suzuki tried additionally to fund on another crowdfunding page. then stopped this attempt for some reasons. now the shenmue 3 project tries to additionally fund them on their own webpage.

AND NO WORD ABOUT A PC VERSION, WTF!

maybe they lied about the amount of money needed to make this game. as i mentioned earlier, 10 millions wouldn't be enough to make real shenmue 3! and it is clear now that they won't see a cent from sega or sony for development.

Q: "Why is the PC version of Shenmue III not offered on this website?"
A: "At the moment, we are discussing the PC version with the related parties."
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Elmofongo: Than how much is need to make a Shenmue game 100 Million like SWTOR?

Personally I just hope they find someway to make an HD re-release of the first 2 games.
i'd guess between 20 and 40 miilions
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apehater: it gets odd, after kickstarter, which offered a pc and ps4 version, suzuki tried additionally to fund on another crowdfunding page. then stopped this attempt for some reasons. now the shenmue 3 project tries to additionally fund them on their own webpage.

AND NO WORD ABOUT A PC VERSION, WTF!

maybe they lied about the amount of money needed to make this game. as i mentioned earlier, 10 millions wouldn't be enough to make real shenmue 3! and it is clear now that they won't see a cent from sega or sony for development.

Q: "Why is the PC version of Shenmue III not offered on this website?"
A: "At the moment, we are discussing the PC version with the related parties."
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Elmofongo: Than how much is need to make a Shenmue game 100 Million like SWTOR?

Personally I just hope they find someway to make an HD re-release of the first 2 games.
It's already finished everyone said. Sega just needs to release it already. I read an article awhile ago where Sega admits it failed its fans. I know that to most people Sega is a joke these days. They stay beating that dead horse that is Sonic The Hedgehog and refusing to put out a good game. I mean honestly, do we need these 3D shenanigans? Take it back to Sonic 3, Sonic CD, where the real fun was. But I digress. Recently they released Grandia II on PC which was a good start. Why Sega hasn't said a thing about releasing these two knowing the fanbase and how badly they're wanted? Well, to put it nicely they're clearly a bunch of idiots.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/posts/1355513
http://shenmue.link/order/

Here's a new option they just picked up which you linked to. This is the "Slacker Backer" version which will last until somewhere around Christmas? I think that's about what they said. Why they can't let this last until like a month before the game drops I'll never know.

Check it out, the original Shenmue jacket is back for 8K. Did the original backer bail or something? I wouldn't mind getting the jacket myself but I'm not paying 3K for it and 8K is ridiculous. Dude still hasn't appealed to the lower tiers. I don't understand why that jacket can't be $500 at the very most. I seriously doubt it's very good quality so they're only kidding themselves.

What's this about him trying another crowdfunding and failing? He dared? Wonder how the Shenmue lovers took that.

And I don't expect word on a PC version. I think you refer to DRM right? I'm sure we'll never hear about that. He'll release it with DRM and some people will own it but be forced to download it with a crack and they will just have to deal. That's some mess when you own the game and have to download it anyway just to play it. I think I read that happened with Diablo III? This is why I don't own it to this day. And my crusade for a Mac version? I guess I better hope and pray someone ports it. But without the originals I'm not sure I'd care. I can see myself buying it to say I have it, Kickstarter Exclusive PS4 physical version, opening it, playing it a few minutes and then leaving it alone much like the first and second games.

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Elmofongo: Than how much is need to make a Shenmue game 100 Million like SWTOR?

Personally I just hope they find someway to make an HD re-release of the first 2 games.
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apehater: i'd guess between 20 and 40 miilions
Nah. Didn't he say he needed 11million to reach the game that he wanted? He's at 6.4million now. I don't see it happening.

You know, this is ground I've already tread but I feel like he really shot himself in the foot here. The PS4, IMO, has very few games going for it and nothing software wise. I'm a huge PS fan, I have PSX, PS2, PS3 and PSP. Vita is trash and everyone knows it just as the PSP was trash until it got modded. But the PS4 has very few games worth buying and that translates into a system not worth purchasing. The Wii U is backwards compatible with the Wii. The XBox One is now backwards compatible with the 360 and I heard a rumor they're working on getting it to play original XBox games. Both systems also have few games worth buying IMHO but backwards compatibility is a serious reason to pick either one up. Especially when one considers that both Mom and Pop shops and Gamestop are going retro these days so the old games aren't so hard to find any more. I can't see much of a reason to grab a PS4 when these other consoles offer so much more in the form of their old game libraries. I think I'm not the only one feeling this way and, in that respect, Yu shot himself in the foot. If very few people care for PS4 or intend to buy one plus very few people want a DRM'ed PC version this will and might already be translating into very little interest in this game and poor sales for him.
Post edited September 25, 2015 by NVash
I am gonna take a guess and say that w haven't given us a date or a recall to say the least for the official/unofficial release...
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GioVio123: I am gonna take a guess and say that w haven't given us a date or a recall to say the least for the official/unofficial release...
"December 2017" but I think that was always the date.

http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2015/09/this_lucky_person_has_already_played_shenmue_iii
Someone already played Shenmue III? There can't be much of anything to this game right now so what all did he play?
Post edited September 26, 2015 by NVash
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NVash: ... and PSP. Vita is trash and everyone knows it just as the PSP was trash until it got modded. ...
hey, i still like my vita
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NVash: .... I think I'm not the only one feeling this way and, in that respect, Yu shot himself in the foot. If very few people care for PS4 or intend to buy one plus very few people want a DRM'ed PC version this will and might already be translating into very little interest in this game and poor sales for him.
intersting view, i just guess it would lead to almost the same situation, if he would have taken xbone or ps3 or xbox360. and also guess that offering an multirelease was too risky for him, as he had to fund much more money.
Post edited September 27, 2015 by apehater
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apehater: intersting view, i just guess it would lead to almost the same situation, if he would have taken xbone or ps3 or xbox360. and also guess that offering an multirelease was too risky for him, as he had to fund much more money.
You could be right. It would have been a massive risk with possibly little to no payoff. I guess he was screwed either way.

About the PC, I've happened to go to various sites and look into this just a bit more and I found out that there might not be a PC version. I apologize to all who commented on this. I coulda swore we were still talking about DRM but at this point we're talking no PC at all.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Shenmue/comments/3l9po6/i_was_denied_my_pc_copy_on_ks_with_no_notice_and/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Shenmue/comments/3l47bo/email_response_from_ys_net_for_not_being_charged/

Now these threads are somewhat confusing to me. Because on the one hand it appears the man gave them the wrong credit card, there were no funds and they were denied. On the other it appears that the PC version is "still in negotiations" and therefore the money for it was refunded. I could be reading wrong and if I am please feel free to correct me but that's what I'm getting out of all of this.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/posts/1336892
Here's the progress as of August 30th. I admit I have no idea how games are developed but I feel like I could've thrown that together on the train ride to work. That isn't showing anyone much of anything.

http://www.siliconera.com/2015/09/24/project-x-zone-2-adds-shenmues-ryo-and-tales-of-vespirias-estelle/
Ryo is going to be in Project X-Zone 2 for 3DS. This is massive folks. People have dreamed of something like this and this is sure to give Shenmue quite a boost. Problem is the game doesn't drop in America until 02/16.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1113389
And here on NeoGaf they're thinking that if the HD's come out they won't be until around 2017. Way to drop the ball Sega. They keep getting opportunities to help promote this game and Yu and keep on letting them go. During the Kickstarter would've been a perfect time to announce it. Radio silence and after it ended we get Grandia II. Now they're working on Shenmue III, Slacker Backer kicks in until New Years Eve, again a perfect time to announce it but here's silence. Ryo is announced in Project X-Zone 2 though, yay for that. At this point I'm not sure what to think. I'm not sure that I doubt the HD's will ever come out. I'm thinking they will. It'll just be too little too late.

What would've been awesome is if Yu could somehow have coerced them to team up with him for this and release both at once. Like $60 for the Kickstarter Exclusive PS4 game right? And maybe $100 for the Kickstarter Exclusive PS4 HD Remasters of I & II bundled with III. Play them all at once, in a row. Never mind getting the old consoles or struggling with emulators! That thing would've gotten so many people to pledge he might just have hit 11 million. But now look. Sega needs to stop being stupid about this and take the money already.

https://www.candb.com/en/artwork/1516/shenmue-sega.html
Did anyone buy this artwork? I mentioned it a few pages back. I kinda liked it but man is it expensive. I don't think the funds are going towards Shenmue III so it'd just be some artwork on the wall. Wonder why Yu didn't bring this in as well? This would have been a great thing to offer to Backers. Maybe he did and had no luck? I guess we'll never know.
Post edited September 27, 2015 by NVash
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NVash: ...
thanks for all the infos

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NVash: Did anyone buy this artwork? I mentioned it a few pages back. I kinda liked it but man is it expensive. I don't think the funds are going towards Shenmue III so it'd just be some artwork on the wall. Wonder why Yu didn't bring this in as well? This would have been a great thing to offer to Backers. Maybe he did and had no luck? I guess we'll never know.
nope didn't buy anything shenmue 3 related. i own a dreamcast and both shenmue title. but so far i just can't imagine that this project, even if they release a game, will be a real shemue title like the first two. it will be just a mediocre 3rd person adventure that used a big name to fund itself. they need much more money for development only, 10 is not enough. i think suzuki started this all to use all the interest on ks as a convincing argument for sony and sega to pay the rest and lost. now he's sitting on very high expectations, an impossible task and not enough money.
Post edited September 27, 2015 by apehater
In a recent interview, Yu Suzuki says that he could do with some more money after the Kickstarter has been funded and despite other sources of funding. Here is an excerpt from the article.

"Kickstarter's not the only source of money," says Suzuki. "There's also funding from Sony and Shibuya Productions. Before we started Kickstarter, we had goals set around the budget - so if we only got $6 million, we'd create Shenmue 3 based upon what we could do with that $6 million." During Tokyo Game Show, the option to back the game via PayPal was announced, another revenue stream for Shenmue 3. "We're still trying to gather funds. Obviously, the more money we have the more we can do. Even if we don't get as much budget as the previous games, we'll still make this game."

In response to the question whether they can make the game he wants with the resources and technology available?
Suzuki responded as follows.

"I could do with a bit more money! The game itself doesn't have to be gorgeous visually - a lot of the money these days goes into the graphics. If we perhaps compromise on the graphics and put more into the story, we can make a good game. The most important thing, to me, is that the game's interesting, and that it's something people want to play."

Well that doesn't really inspire a lot of confidence when funding from Kickstarter and other sources followed by a Paypal initiative for more money isn't likely going to be enough to make Shenmue 3 on the scale and scope that it needs to be to match the quality of the previous games in the series.
Post edited October 05, 2015 by stg83
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stg83: In a recent interview, Yu Suzuki says that he could do with some more money after the Kickstarter has been funded and despite other sources of funding. Here is an excerpt from the article.

"Kickstarter's not the only source of money," says Suzuki. "There's also funding from Sony and Shibuya Productions. Before we started Kickstarter, we had goals set around the budget - so if we only got $6 million, we'd create Shenmue 3 based upon what we could do with that $6 million." During Tokyo Game Show, the option to back the game via PayPal was announced, another revenue stream for Shenmue 3. "We're still trying to gather funds. Obviously, the more money we have the more we can do. Even if we don't get as much budget as the previous games, we'll still make this game."

In response to the question whether they can make the game he wants with the resources and technology available?
Suzuki responded as follows.

"I could do with a bit more money! The game itself doesn't have to be gorgeous visually - a lot of the money these days goes into the graphics. If we perhaps compromise on the graphics and put more into the story, we can make a good game. The most important thing, to me, is that the game's interesting, and that it's something people want to play."

Well that doesn't really inspire a lot of confidence when funding from Kickstarter and other sources followed by a Paypal initiative for more money isn't likely going to be enough to make Shenmue 3 on the scale and scope that it needs to be to match the quality of the previous games in the series.
http://www.polygon.com/2015/10/5/9453541/shenmue-3-budget-kickstarter-goal-suzuki

Sounds much like this article but it is driving home a good point. My question is this. Supposedly they need to know how much they have to figure out what all they can do. If they're still getting money from PayPal and the like how would they know their true budget? And when do they intend to come clean about what other funding they have and how much it may be? People clearly want to know that so it wouldn't hurt to tell it already.