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I think scene is just being scene, and highly likely to be liberal, atm.

You won't be term locked after top decking. The risks for Liberals are the following:

A) Losing investigation - we can counter this by playing Joe-ZFR - this relies on Joe being Liberal. Given Joe could be a fascist receiving RBB or Hitler playing blues - this is risky

B) 2 players have already silent dropped 2 Liberal Policies so we have 2 fascist policies down with a 100% chance of 2 drops with no information. This would be quite bad because we know 2 fascists are in play.

There are risks to not top decking too:

1) Any potential fascist in Rager & RWarehall will drop a liberal policy

2) There's a 38% (I think) chance that the first draw of a new deck will give 3 fascist policies.

I am missing your vote.

It's a random skip government, we're resigning to 4 players and hoping 3 of them aren't fascist

For all your analysis, how can you keep getting it wrong...
We have only 1 unaccounted for Liberal policy. We have passed 4 of the 6 and ZFR announced he dropped another (not silently)

And the odds without skipping governments after the reshuffle of 3 Fs is (10/12)*(9/11)*(8/10) = 6/11 or 54.5%

While that sounds bad...if we skip governments and there is a problem, we are at 3 Fs already and we lose if Hitler is the chancellor before any card draw. Furthermore, the odds of 3 F is similar (8/10)*(7/9)*(6/8) = 7/15 = 46.7% only reduced because we granted 2 free Fascist policies.

You also seem to talk a lot about Fascists among the 4 people who have all passed Liberal policies. While it's possible, a Hitler is far more likely.

For GameRager to be a straight Fascist, he would have had to sluff the first opportunity and then pass it a second time on the 3rd L.

For me to be a straight Fascist, I would have had to pass on the opportunity on the first draw and then pass it a second time (or draw 2 Ls and be forced to pass one) on the 3rd L.

For ZFR to be a straight Fascist, he'd have to ignore the opportunity to pass a Fascist policy on the 2nd government and get stuck passing one on the 4th with the draw.

For Joe, he'd have to either get a bad draw on the 2nd or choose to pass up the opportunity and had no choice on the 4th.

There are possibilities of a Hitler/Fascist combo, but there are similar concerns whether its likely given the Fascist could take all the credit for the government fail to avoid being on the brink.

Strangely, the most likely Fascists are the ones you propose using...
Joe is the least proven; ZFR 2nd. Something I find odd...I'd think a real Liberal would notice this.

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It's a tough decision.
We win outright skipping governments if both of the following are true:
1) No President false-claimed their draws.
2) Neither GameRager nor I are Hitler (or Fascist but I think I've explained how that is not likely) who will discard the Liberal policy. I know I'm not, I can't tell you about GameRager...

But if either of these are true, we are already at 3 F, electing Hitler as Chancellor immediately loses the game and we have chaos as we don't know whether the L was sluffed earlier or just now.

vs.

With the same conditions above:
A 60% chance to win right now, no guarantee, but 2 extra Fs before we'd have to worry about Hitler.

I can't tell you which policy is better, it's very close, but with the plan proposed by you and your frequent mischaracterizations, I'm in favor of the straight play because I do not trust you.

I'll add to what RWarehall said that we gain no information from any fascist policies passed by turnover. So not only would we be closer to the Hitler zone, we would have less chance of finding out who the Fascists are.

Sorry, was sick then better and forgot to send it in. All done now. :)
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Also sorry to everyone else for holding the game up)

(Also also caught up till now with all posts)

"I've got a promotion!" said the Bookwyrm. "Allow me to demonstra-"

"YOU HAVE DONE THIS SONG AND DANCE TWO DAYS AGO." Beatrice played a scene on one of the screens showing what happened during the previous vote count.

"Oh."

"DO NOT WORRY. HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF."

Bookwyrm scratched his head before realizing that Supple Scene and Dawn Perry were gone.

President supplementscene's and Chancellor Microfish's government has been rejected!

1. GameRager..................ja!
2. JoeSapphire.................nein
3. RWarehall.....................nein
4. Lifthrasil........................nein
5. Microfish.......................nein
6. ZFR................................nein
7. RedFireGaming...........nein
8. supplementscene........nein

The government tracker has moved by one step. If the next government is rejected, the top deck policy will be enacted.

GameRager must now nominate a Chancellor.

"some pointless fluff" while waiting for GR to pick.

Also, who will he pick?
What are benefits or downfalls of splitting up the pairs [without TD, he really can't.]?

Tune in later to hear these subjects and many more (and maybe none of the above) discussed in-depth (or not) at some future, possible time! In the meantime, our smartwatches (with the springs that wind themselves up if they have too much sugar)...i forgot the rest. This is embarrassing.

If he picks anyone but RW, it would look very suspicious. The other liberal passing candidates are term locked.

I have added the "vote up to two future governments" thing I announced earlier as an addendum to the rules. This was on my head for a while but I kept forgetting about it.

This all has merit and I am guilty of misscounting the deck. I will be voting for Rager providing he picks you and I urge all Liberals to follow suit.

I personally consider ZFR to probably be the most proven given he passed the 4th Liberal policy. However if Joe is Liberal and ZFR isn't he probably didn't have the chance to pass fascist policy. Likewise if Joe got 2 Liberal policies, he may have discarded one of them. I think if ZFR is Hitler he drops one of his Liberal policies unless he got 3 Liberal policies in order to look better and in case he has fascist to double drop with.

There's no benefit in splitting up a good pair, unless they play fascist policy. And given a 3 fascist draw is quite likely the next 3 governments should be:

Rager-RWarehall
Joe-ZFR
RWarehall-Rager - even if Rager claims 3 fascist policies - if it's a dispute both are frozen however

RWarehall should be the person you trust most in the game because he's played 2 Liberal Policies with you. The only reason for nominating someone else would be:

1) You're making a stupid play as Liberal

2) RWarehall is your Hitler and you want to conflict a seperate player while keeping RWarehall in play. So if you pick anyone other than RWarehall I suggest we let you play that government in order not to top deck and then freeze both of you for shady play.

And no I wouldn't freeze you if you get 3 fascist policies, which unfortunately gives you free reign to drop if fascist

You've got to be kidding me.