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Posted May 21, 2018
Looks like I may have gotten hit by the invisible posts bug. This better not post merge...
Posted May 21, 2018
What the crap, my previous post (before the one wondering about invisible posts) appears to have been eaten. What I was saying more or less:

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supplementscene: Why exactly are you taking the exact same interpretation as RWarehall and defending ZFR to the hilt? Why is ZFR beyond reproach from both RWarehall's and Ashwald's perspectives? Why would Ashwald himself not suspect ZFR?
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dedoporno: I have one pretty good guess why.
Except there I am in my introductory analysis mega-post, parts 2, 3 and 5, wondering whether ZFR is facsist/Hitler. Totally not suspecting him at all at the time, sure.

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Lifthrasil: ... and you really think that was a real admission and not just cynicism? Then what about Greeks admission of being Hitler? Did you take that to be literal too?
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dedoporno: To be honest, I'd love to see that ending up being true. One more pro-Greek reason for me :D
Fascist much? ;)

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ZFR: In post 1272 you did mention that what changed your mind was thinking it's "very very unlikely" random.org would have picked the names it and you find it suspicious.

So far, so good. The above is just a reminder of the background situation. But let's look at post 1272 more closely.

_ You quoted Brasas's post 1260, and said it's a very good point against me.
_ Later you said you didn't notice me mentioning I used random.org. That the ".org" slipped your mind. (I found it odd, but after all it was a lot of posts for you to read, maybe you did miss it...)

But Brasas's post 1260 doesn't mention ".org" either. It just says 'randomly'.
It doesn't mention ".org". It mentions digital dice.

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Brasas: PS: In case anyone has forgotten I am referring to ZFR's explanation for the names in his shitpost. He said he drew them randomly... those digital dice were amazing seers.
Digital dice. What I had in my head up until then was multiple mentions of random, random. That made me go back in the thread to see wtf he was going on about and reread your 479 post where you tell Brasas you used random.org.
Posted May 21, 2018
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ZFR: snip
Then feel free to tell us now which one of them is your scum buddy? :)
Or consider when I suggested your gambit might have been signaling to Hitler - that lying about the F team would be counter productive.

Anyway, more interesting to me is this:

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ZFR: (ZFR) then (adalia, Brasas, dedo) then (kusu, blotunga) then (ash) then (random) then (scene)
When the heck did you sort me in the highest L bucket after yourself? What did I miss?
Posted May 21, 2018
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ZFR: (ZFR) then (adalia, Brasas, dedo) then (kusu, blotunga) then (ash) then (random) then (scene)
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Brasas: When the heck did you sort me in the highest L bucket after yourself? What did I miss?
Here:

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Lifthrasil: If you want an answer from me that's not "pick me!" then I support greek that it shouldn't be one of the kusu-blotunga lurkers, but can't honestly give a preference otherwise except that I'd rather not choose scene.
You're there by default. Together with adalia and dedo. The only difference is that ash dropped from that bucket to the penultimate place.
Posted May 21, 2018
OK. I'm back and I'm ready to nominate a chancellor. I think adalia is right and we have talked long enough. Or is there something important left to talk about?
Posted May 21, 2018
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Lifthrasil: OK. I'm back and I'm ready to nominate a chancellor. I think adalia is right and we have talked long enough. Or is there something important left to talk about?
No objections from me.
Posted May 21, 2018
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Lifthrasil: Or is there something important left to talk about?
Sooooo, did you bang?
Posted May 21, 2018
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Lifthrasil: Or is there something important left to talk about?
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greeklover: Sooooo, did you bang?
Won't tell. :-) But it was an AWESOME weekend! :-D
Posted May 21, 2018
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Lifthrasil: OK. I'm back and I'm ready to nominate a chancellor. I think adalia is right and we have talked long enough. Or is there something important left to talk about?
I'd have to vote against Adalia and would advice all Liberals to do the same. We only have to look at Adalia's prefered list of candidates to conclude that he/she is likely Scummy. Let's not forget Adalia has Greek at the bottom of a preferential list of candidates.

Why you're going for Adalia over the more popular and proven pick of Brasas I have no idea.
Posted May 21, 2018
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Lifthrasil: OK. I'm back and I'm ready to nominate a chancellor. I think adalia is right and we have talked long enough. Or is there something important left to talk about?
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supplementscene: I'd have to vote against Adalia and would advice all Liberals to do the same. We only have to look at Adalia's prefered list of candidates to conclude that he/she is likely Scummy. Let's not forget Adalia has Greek at the bottom of a preferential list of candidates.

Why you're going for Adalia over the more popular and proven pick of Brasas I have no idea.
He didn't say he's going for adalia, just that she's right that we talked long enough.
Posted May 21, 2018
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supplementscene: I'd have to vote against Adalia and would advice all Liberals to do the same. We only have to look at Adalia's prefered list of candidates to conclude that he/she is likely Scummy. Let's not forget Adalia has Greek at the bottom of a preferential list of candidates.

Why you're going for Adalia over the more popular and proven pick of Brasas I have no idea.
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greeklover: He didn't say he's going for adalia, just that she's right that we talked long enough.
I misread that, apologies Lift
Posted May 21, 2018
OK. I've been thinking back and forth. There seems to be a majority that is OK with going the Brasas route. Kusu and blotunga included, so not only the 'camp' that Brasas is in. And not all who have voted for that route can be fascists. The only thing that disturbs me is how sure Brasas seems to be of his camp members. Only fascists can be sure - but would a scum Brasas not fake insecurity? This very open mutual support looks strange - both for fascists and for liberals and of course everything about it is WIFOM...

I've talked some about the possible advantages of testing someone. However, I also would like to bring the game home now, if I can. So perhaps it is best to go with the proven route. Especially since there are even scenarios where dedo and/or greek are scum but Brasas is liberal. The reverse is much less likely. So, among the players of that camp who are not term-locked at the moment, he has the highest probability of being liberal. And the testing idea still is valid. Only that it's the Brasas/greek/dedo (+Scene?) camp that is under test and not the somewhat looser connected other camp.

Long deliberation, short conclusion:

I nominate Brasas as chancellor
Posted May 21, 2018
Woot!
Posted May 21, 2018
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Lifthrasil: The reverse is much less likely.
Why would you say that? I can see dedo+Brasas being linked, but what's your reasoning behind greek too? i.e. if Brasas is declared F by your test, why do you say it likely implicates greek too?
Posted May 21, 2018
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Lifthrasil: The reverse is much less likely.
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ZFR: Why would you say that? I can see dedo+Brasas being linked, but what's your reasoning behind greek too? i.e. if Brasas is declared F by your test, why do you say it likely implicates greek too?
Thank you very much! I was just about to say this. I have trusted brasas and his reads during the game and at the moment I trust him as much as most of the table who voted their preference for brasas being chancellor. If he turns out to be a fascist, that's not my problem.
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