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Posted May 25, 2017
The forum's been strangely quiet about the final season, hasn't it? Well, the season's over, the show has reached it's conclussion, and I hope at least some of you have seen, cause I'd really like to compare notes. Spoilers follow, obviously.

I was never a great fan of the original Samurai Jack run. I've seen some of it, some episodes I even liked, but for the most part I just found it kinda "meh". Not my style. The humor didn't work for me, the mix of fantasy and cyberpunk never really coalesced into something I'd enjoy. My favourite episodes were the ones that left out all the jokes and robots and futuristic stuff.

But I like the trailers for the new season a lot, it looked like a much more moody an interesting show, so I gave it a chance.

The first episode was good. Didn't blow me away, but I liked. Then episodes 2 & 3 happened and my god, was my mind blown. Those were fantastic. Absolutely awesome. The mood, the near dialogue-less storytelling, the haunted Jack, the desperate fight agains Aku's daughters, that final fight in the snowy forest... pure magic. I can't praise those enough. But then the show, much to my dismay, went downhill. Episode 4 was still good, though not nearly as strong. But then it got worse. Jack's inner demons were disposed of way too quickly, his entire character arc wasted. He just returned to his old self after some meditating and a magical transformation. Back to his old self, exactly as he was, without a trace of how he was changed by those last 50 years. Then, in the low point of the season we wasted an entire episode on a detour entirely pointless to the overall plot, except for bringing forth out of nowhere a fan-service like romance. The show bounced back somewhat in the last two episodes, but the edge that the initial episodes had was lost for good. The resolution was just about as predictable as possible, the final episode rushed and rather anti-climactic (though I do like the very last scene).

I wonder, did the long time fans of the series see it differently than I did? The latter episodes of the season were definately more like the original show, so maybe you enjoyed that return to the old style? Was I the only one dissappointed with how the dark, violent mood and older, rougher Jack petered out as the season went on?
Post edited May 25, 2017 by Breja
Posted May 25, 2017
I'm just here to express my love for the series. Best episode : Bounty Hunter episode.
Ok that's all. I'm not going to read any further because I haven' seen the new ones yet and I'm afraid of spoilers.

Btw, hopefully we get a proper Samurai Jack game someday. Some sort of semi open world game in which you can explore the fascinating dystopian world in more detail.
Posted May 25, 2017
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Matewis: I'm just here to express my love for the series. Best episode : Bounty Hunter episode.
Ok that's all. I'm not going to read any further because I haven' seen the new ones yet and I'm afraid of spoilers.
Well, be sure to check back once you've seen it, I'm curious about your impressions.
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Matewis: Btw, hopefully we get a proper Samurai Jack game someday. Some sort of semi open world game in which you can explore the fascinating dystopian world in more detail.
Personally I think Ronin is probably the best template for a Samurai Jack game. I doubt we'll get any games however, unless the show isn't actually over and will come back for another season or a movie. Then a tie-in game is possible.
Post edited May 25, 2017 by Breja
Posted May 25, 2017
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Breja: Well, be sure to check back once you've seen it, I'm curious about your impressions.
Sure thing, I'm really looking forward to it. I just need to find a channel that shows it and record from the first episode.
Posted May 26, 2017
Too be honest I was just caught up in the hype and took all with a sprinkle of sunshine until episode 5 arrived, I don't know why, maybe because the show stopped having that feel of monster of the week kind of thing....or maybe because the focus of jack's belief was just being hammered too little, not to say that the rest was bad, but it certainly did dissapoint me from what it could have been, when it finished at the tenth episode, I just felt ripped off for what could have been 60 or 30 weach more minutes for the episodes, hell I wouldn't have complained if the episodes had more run time than originally, but and since the beggining each one was like 20 minutes or something, I guess I wanted more asskicking from the old jack and have more of a rise from disgrace from the latter episodes, they played their characters well, but it feels as though they revamped the script half-way through the show to get it over with, or maybe that is just me.
Post edited May 26, 2017 by GioVio123
Posted May 26, 2017
Wait there is a final season?
Posted May 26, 2017
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Breja: Then episodes 2 & 3 happened and my god, was my mind blown. Those were fantastic. Absolutely awesome. The mood, the near dialogue-less storytelling, the haunted Jack, the desperate fight agains Aku's daughters, that final fight in the snowy forest... pure magic. I can't praise those enough.
Strange, maybe it's my nostalgia, but everything you said is why I liked the original series. There are entire episodes that rely on environmental sounds to spice up speechless scenes.

I agree that whoever came up with the idea of adding a romance, should have his nards removed. They had only 10 episodes and they wasted half of the runtime introducing a useless character, especially considering how the show ended. From the very first episode I felt that the events unfolded way to fast. I liked Samurai Jack because it was the only animation show that had scenes that lingered very long, without being meaningless.

I liked that they brought back so many old characters, but that should have been the focus of the new season. Unfortunately, now it's done. Not a fan...
Post edited May 26, 2017 by MadalinStroe
Posted May 26, 2017
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MadalinStroe: Strange, maybe it's my nostalgia, but everything you said is why I liked the original series. There are entire episodes that rely on environmental sounds to spice up speechless scenes.

I agree that whoever came up with the idea of adding a romance, should have his nards removed. They had only 10 episodes and they wasted half of the runtime introducing a useless character, especially considering how the show ended. From the very first episode I felt that the events unfolded way to fast. I liked Samurai Jack because it was the only animation show that had scenes that lingered very long, without being meaningless.

I liked that they brought back so many old characters, but that should have been the focus of the new season. Unfortunately, now it's done. Not a fan...
Well, I guess "useless" isn't the right word for Ashi, in fact she's the opposite, as it's her that pretty much resolves the central quest of the series for Jack. Which in itself felt cheap and rushed. My problem with her was that every step of the way her arc was just about the most predictable and cliched thing possible. The only surprise was the romance, but only becuase of how unfiting and out of nowhere it was. If anything their relationship up to that point (not to mention the age gap) seemed more father-daughter, which made the romance even moreout of place. And from that point on again it was all cliches, with the power of love defeating Aku's control and yadda yadda...
Posted May 26, 2017
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Breja: Well, I guess "useless" isn't the right word for Ashi..., in fact she's the opposite, as it's her that pretty much resolves
What I meant to say is that she is useless in the context of 10 episodes. All her story is told way too fast. She shouldn't have been introduced at all. If her story were to have been told over the course of 2-3 seasons that would make sense. But like this, she feels like a useless disposable character, that they created as filler. I don't have a problem with her story, my problem is with how cheaply her story was handled.

I viewed their relationship as master-apprentices, and that could have evolved into a romance, but not as fast as it did.

They should have kept the ending like they hinted at in season 3: Jack going back to the Morpheus looking time-guardian, who would now allow him to use the time portal. They ended that episode perfect: the guardian defeats Jack, and just as he is about to kill him, he realizes... "Not yet samurai... not yet". And we see a vision of a tired looking future Jack, with a long beard, a crown on his head, and a red spartan cape. Perfect! Instead we got this? Such a cheap ending.

I also noticed a huge amount of continuity errors. Jack sometimes lacks his sword, sometimes he is wearing boots. This never happened in the original seasons.
Post edited May 26, 2017 by MadalinStroe
Posted May 26, 2017
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MadalinStroe: They should have kept the ending like they hinted at in season 3: Jack going back to the Morpheus looking time-guardian, who would now allow him to use the time portal. They ended that episode perfect: the guardian defeats Jack, and just as he is about to kill him, he realizes... "Not yet samurai... not yet". And we see a vision of a tired looking future Jack, with a long beard, a crown on his head, and a red spartan cape. Perfect! Instead we got this? Such a cheap ending.
Yeah, that Guardian thing was bothering me too. In fact, it feels like an invitation to continue the series to somehow wrap that up. No idea how, but it's one hell of a loose thread.
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MadalinStroe: I also noticed a huge amount of continuity errors. Jack sometimes lacks his sword, sometimes he is wearing boots. This never happened in the original seasons.
I haven't even noticed that. Strange, considering the overall high quality of the visuals in this season.
Posted May 26, 2017
Since I am being ignored, I wasnt trolling or being a jackass
when did this final season happen?

all I know/remember is originally the show was cancelled for some reason and never was picked up again.
what changed?
Post edited May 26, 2017 by Lord_Kane
Posted May 26, 2017
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Lord_Kane: Since I am being ignored, I wasnt trolling or being jackass
when did this final season happen?

all I know/remember is originally the show was cancelled for some reason and never was picked up again.
what changed?
Sorry, didn't mean to ignore you.

The show recently was picked up for a fifth season consisting of ten episodes to wrap up the story, much like the X-FIles of Twin Peakes returned to TV for new seasons after many years. The fifth season just finished last weekend. It is set 50 years after the original run, with Jack still the same age (his time traveling also stopped his aging), and having lost his sword. Here's a trailer.
Posted May 26, 2017
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Lord_Kane: Since I am being ignored, I wasnt trolling or being jackass
when did this final season happen?

all I know/remember is originally the show was cancelled for some reason and never was picked up again.
what changed?
It premiered a short while ago on Adult Swim. I forget why it happened but the network decided to let Tartakovsky create a final season to wrap up the storyline.

I've watched a little more than half of it, so I need to finish up, but I liked what I saw, although I do question some how they handled some of the more mature elements they've added. I know they got around censorship in the original series by making all the enemies robots (even the ones that didn't at all resemble robots), but the idea that a man so proficient in wielding a sword has never ever never ever killed a single living opponent is just silly.
Posted May 26, 2017
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Lord_Kane: Since I am being ignored, I wasnt trolling or being jackass
when did this final season happen?

all I know/remember is originally the show was cancelled for some reason and never was picked up again.
what changed?
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andysheets1975: It premiered a short while ago on Adult Swim. I forget why it happened but the network decided to let Tartakovsky create a final season to wrap up the storyline.

I've watched a little more than half of it, so I need to finish up, but I liked what I saw, although I do question some how they handled some of the more mature elements they've added. I know they got around censorship in the original series by making all the enemies robots (even the ones that didn't at all resemble robots), but the idea that a man so proficient in wielding a sword has never ever never ever killed a single living opponent is just silly.
I will give it a shot when I can.

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Lord_Kane: Since I am being ignored, I wasnt trolling or being jackass
when did this final season happen?

all I know/remember is originally the show was cancelled for some reason and never was picked up again.
what changed?
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Breja: Sorry, didn't mean to ignore you.

The show recently was picked up for a fifth season consisting of ten episodes to wrap up the story, much like the X-FIles of Twin Peakes returned to TV for new seasons after many years. The fifth season just finished last weekend. It is set 50 years after the original run, with Jack still the same age (his time traveling also stopped his aging), and having lost his sword. Here's a trailer.
Its alright, for a moment I thought some of our past negative interactions had left a history

And awesome thanks, I just never expected it to be finished either. just kinda shocked its cancellation was so sudden. as I said above I will give it a watch when I can.
Posted May 26, 2017
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andysheets1975: I know they got around censorship in the original series by making all the enemies robots (even the ones that didn't at all resemble robots), but the idea that a man so proficient in wielding a sword has never ever never ever killed a single living opponent is just silly.
I guess... but I actually liked that they included that in the story. Kinda like Star Trek acknowledging the change in the appeariance of Klingons in a story. Besides, one of my problems with the original show was that Jack was a bit too bland, too "perfect". It was good to see him having to work through something like that. Much more interesting if he just shrugged at discovering his new enemies aren't robots.
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