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Posted April 04, 2016
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There are also people that are admitting not playing the expansion, but posted a 5 star review. What about that?! Some reviews, the controversy part aside, are outlying the bugs, the broken MP and the problems that reviewers experienced.

We also have both sides trying to counter each other, especially after Trent Ostner basically begged for positive reviews on the Beamdog forums. And he asked for both Steam and GOG. Not sure what GOG's policy is when such things are happening, but from what i recall Steam removed at least one game for review manipulation.
Posted April 04, 2016
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Narakir: I'm more concerned about the lack of consistency in writing style than these "issues", but maybe its good to remind people its a Bioware game. If they had redone their game and added an expansion today, the level of baboon butt hurt against SJWness would have been even greater.
It wasn't going to be consistent even if you got the original writers. I think kickstarter has conclusively shown that only Molyneux is consistent, and not in a good way. Hell, I helped ship a game I was (and still am) a yooooge fan of and got a look at the writer's new project. As you've probably guessed (because I wouldn't bring it up as an example otherwise), it was the most boring and tepidly offensive shit imaginable, like a Nick Sparks book. And there was no timeskip; they were working on it right after, or probably at the same time as, the incredibly awesome game.

(The first time I started BG1, I insta-ragequit it over the lack of consistency in tone. That one gigglesqueeing chick, right after the guy got murdered. "zomg we're going on an adventure, so adorbs!" Argh.)
Posted April 04, 2016
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wvpr: Does anyone remember another game on GOG that got vote brigaded so hard, not counting when the top complaint was a technical or marketing misfire? I'm coming up blank.
Omerta probably. My memory's a bit fuzzy on the details, but I seem to remember a huge backlash against the piecemeal DLC in particular.

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Starmaker: (The first time I started BG1, I insta-ragequit it over the lack of consistency in tone. That one gigglesqueeing chick, right after the guy got murdered. "zomg we're going on an adventure, so adorbs!" Argh.)
I still have nightmares of people running up behind me and loudly exclaiming, "HEYA, IT'S ME, IMOEN!" So much darkness.
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Senteria: Apparantly from what I gather this game has something to do with gamergate. Well something against it.
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Vitek: From what I reckon he has now among his quotes something like: "Really, it's about ethics in heroic adventuring."
That's clear jab at "Really, It's about ethics in gaming journalism."
Despite me thinking it was pretty dumb adding that line in the first place it's not really that much of a jab- it's not like it's an evil psychopath such as Xzar who has been given the phrase. Minsc may be brain damaged, but he is essentially good natured.

On the other hand, adding in a transexual character is... somewhat off in a game where there is- literally- an item that will quite happily change your gender for you and where magic exists that can change sex so much so that a character actually gets their sex changed as a plot point. I actually suspect that is part of the problem, Bioware treated the sex change as an outright joke and I strongly suspect the new writer would have loved to change how that was handled, but they couldn't. It's a real world issue, but it simply doesn't fit in that fantasy world however you cut it, certainly breaks the fourth wall and definitely is a valid point of criticism.

IIRC even Elminster spent time as a woman.
Posted April 04, 2016
Well, Jack Keane 2 got kind of vote brigaded. But there is was funny.
Posted April 04, 2016
The "expansion" (it's just a cheaply made DLC, come on) deserves all the negative reviews it's getting.
The issue with the shoehorned transperson is just the cherry on top.
It's not that you have a trans person. It's that this trans person is meant to "teach" you about the "real world". Basically, they are treating you like you are an imbecile, and by saying "it's not a real issue" then you're accepting that.
Posted April 04, 2016
What's with the reviews which basically boil down to "I haven't even played this game for more than an hour, but I encountered a big bug SO THEREFORE DON'T BUY NOW" garbage which tell you nothing about the game itself? I wish I could put my arm through the monitor and strangle these retards.
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Crosmando: What's with the reviews which basically boil down to "I haven't even played this game for more than an hour, but I encountered a big bug SO THEREFORE DON'T BUY NOW" garbage which tell you nothing about the game itself? I wish I could put my arm through the monitor and strangle these retards.
The game is plagued with bugs, just as the "enhanced" editions were. There was absolutely no problem with any of the classic games sold here, Beamdog "reworked" the games just as a quick cashgrab. SoD has more than one bug, and if there's people complaining loudly about them it's because they had to wait like two years after the game was patched enough so it could be played in a somewhat bug-free manner from start to finish.
Posted April 04, 2016
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wvpr: Does anyone remember another game on GOG that got vote brigaded so hard, not counting when the top complaint was a technical or marketing misfire? I'm coming up blank.
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227: Omerta probably. My memory's a bit fuzzy on the details, but I seem to remember a huge backlash against the piecemeal DLC in particular.

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Starmaker: (The first time I started BG1, I insta-ragequit it over the lack of consistency in tone. That one gigglesqueeing chick, right after the guy got murdered. "zomg we're going on an adventure, so adorbs!" Argh.)
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227: I still have nightmares of people running up behind me and loudly exclaiming, "HEYA, IT'S ME, IMOEN!" So much darkness.
Sorry, before leaving this thread you must gather your party!

And yes, Imoen was the main reason I generally play the games solo.
Posted April 04, 2016
So... what does Minsc say, exactly? I see just people mentioning him making a jab at GamerGate or something, but what exactly?

I don't care much if they added a transgender ladyboy or tomboy to the game, to each his/her/the-third-one own I guess.

Adding some real life political social commentary into it sounds weak though (that part about Minsc commenting on GamerGate?). I'm surprised they didn't put some "DON'T VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP!!!!" commentary there as well, that would have probably made about as much sense.

I think they got the reaction they anticipated and wanted, and this BGEE DLC will get recognition in all news media, including non-gaming news, of how the poor game makers got attacked by an angry mob of nerdy gamers who couldn't accept a transgender character in a game, or something. I bet we will hear later in the news how a game developer working on this game had to flee his/her/its home for their lives in the middle of the night because they allegedly got an angry tweet.
Post edited April 04, 2016 by timppu
Posted April 04, 2016
Minsc says something like "it's about ethics in adventuring". It's not only out of character for him to say that, it's also creating the assumption that people who doesn't agree with certain media outlets hate women.
Posted April 04, 2016
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timppu: to each his/her/the-third-one own I guess.
The gender neutral would be "to each their own". Perfectly acceptable in English, unsure about American.
Posted April 04, 2016
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javier0889: Minsc says something like "it's about ethics in adventuring".
That's all? Then I feel this is being exaggerated. I was expecting more like "Uh huh, those GamerGaters, quite dumb, right Boo?".

It would still be better without such social commentary, but if that really was all... oh well. Most people will miss the jab anyway (I know I would have, even though I even know about GamerGate). Even if I had made the connection, I would have treated it as a clumsy wordplay, not necessarily even commentary.

My interest in this case just fizzled out...
Post edited April 04, 2016 by timppu
Posted April 04, 2016
Review brigading? This a thing now?

Eh, it's more like review regimenting. Perhaps only a battalion. I'll be concerned when we've achieved review divisions.
Posted April 04, 2016
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timppu: So... what does Minsc say, exactly? I see just people mentioning him making a jab at GamerGate or something, but what exactly?
The second video in this article contains the quote.

There is no content to it where it is said but I read elsewhere it is just random line when clicking on character. Can't vouch for that, though.
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