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Oddeus: Now I would like to know, if there is a special term for these cars or for the paneling.
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tinyE: Yeah.

Ugly
Them's fighting' words! I find those glorious wooden panels very easy to masturbate to.

They're so ugly that they become awesome, hard to put my finger on it but something about those cars just speaks to me.
Post edited September 14, 2019 by user deleted
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Oddeus: Now I would like to know, if there is a special term for these cars or for the paneling.
They're called woodies.

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodie_(car_body_style]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodie_(car_body_style[/url])

Don't URLs work anymore on this forum?
Post edited September 14, 2019 by Narushima
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Oddeus: Now I would like to know, if there is a special term for these cars or for the paneling.
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Narushima: They're called woodies.

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodie_(car_body_style]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodie_(car_body_style[/url])

Don't URLs work anymore on this forum?
Thanks! That´s exactly the information I was looking for. :)
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Oddeus: Now I would like to know, if there is a special term for these cars or for the paneling.
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Narushima: They're called woodies.

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodie_(car_body_style]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodie_(car_body_style[/url])

Don't URLs work anymore on this forum?
They do, as long as they do not contain parenthesis or possibly certain other characters. Try replacing the left parenthesis with %28 (and right parenthesis, if needed. with %29).

So let me try to correct the URL:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodie_%28car_body_style

Although it looks like you made a typo and forgot the ending ), so it would look like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodie_%28car_body_style%29
Here's something I wonder about sometimes, maybe US GOGgers can give some insight.


I get the impression that in the US, 24-hour time is only used in military contexts and is referred to as military time. It always seems to be pronounced "sixteen-hundred hours" etc.

Is this an accurate impression? I ask because in the UK the 24-hour clock is pretty common, and when we read it out we pronounce it "normally". That is to say both 4:15pm and 16:15 would be "quarter past four" with PM specified if it wasn't clear from context.
The impression I get from American media is that people don't really use it outside of the military etc.
In *my* experience, your impression would be correct. However, the whole zero hundred - twenty-three hundred hours thing is for clear communication so there is never any doubt about what time you meant. On a related note you may want to check out "NATO phonetic alphabet" (the whole alpha,bravo,charlie thing for clear communication over the radio)

Also as a programmer, I prefer 24 hour time and ISO dates YYYY-MM-DD 2019-09-17 because they are clear and make sorting easier.

Regards

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SirPrimalform: Here's something I wonder about sometimes, maybe US GOGgers can give some insight.

I get the impression that in the US, 24-hour time is only used in military contexts and is referred to as military time. It always seems to be pronounced "sixteen-hundred hours" etc.

Is this an accurate impression? I ask because in the UK the 24-hour clock is pretty common, and when we read it out we pronounce it "normally". That is to say both 4:15pm and 16:15 would be "quarter past four" with PM specified if it wasn't clear from context.
The impression I get from American media is that people don't really use it outside of the military etc.
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SirPrimalform: Here's something I wonder about sometimes, maybe US GOGgers can give some insight.

I get the impression that in the US, 24-hour time is only used in military contexts and is referred to as military time. It always seems to be pronounced "sixteen-hundred hours" etc.

Is this an accurate impression? I ask because in the UK the 24-hour clock is pretty common, and when we read it out we pronounce it "normally". That is to say both 4:15pm and 16:15 would be "quarter past four" with PM specified if it wasn't clear from context.
The impression I get from American media is that people don't really use it outside of the military etc.
This should help you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oHgs-fZWks
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gogdaisuki: Also as a programmer, I prefer 24 hour time and ISO dates YYYY-MM-DD 2019-09-17 because they are clear and make sorting easier.
On many (most modern?) operating systems (this *does* include Windows here), when you look at the files in a directory, they appear sorted by ASCII order. Furthermore, on modern OSes (that is, not MS-DOS or vintage microcomputer OSes), filenames are allowed to be long enough to put the date in the filename.

Therefore, if you want to have files sorted by date in a folder, you can give them names that start with the date in ISO format, perhaps followed by the time, and they will be automatically sorted in the file browser for you; this is useful even if you are not a programmer. (For example, you could use this scheme for naming the pictures you took while on vacation.)
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gogdaisuki: In *my* experience, your impression would be correct. However, the whole zero hundred - twenty-three hundred hours thing is for clear communication so there is never any doubt about what time you meant. On a related note you may want to check out "NATO phonetic alphabet" (the whole alpha,bravo,charlie thing for clear communication over the radio)

Also as a programmer, I prefer 24 hour time and ISO dates YYYY-MM-DD 2019-09-17 because they are clear and make sorting easier.

Regards
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tinyE: This should help you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oHgs-fZWks
Thanks both!

I'm not a programmer, but the whole ISO year-month-day thing makes a lot of sense to me just because it follows the general rules of place value. Day-month-year doesn't make perfect sense, but at least they're in the correct order. Month-day-year for numerical dates always struck me as completely insane.
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SirPrimalform: Month-day-year for numerical dates always struck me as completely insane.
Here's my explanation:
* month-day makes more sense than day-month, for the 5reason you mentioned. (Notice the absence of a year here.)
* The year is often omitted from dates, and as a result, is more of an "add on" then part of the date as it's usually reported. Consider that, when looking at nearby dates, the year is almost always the same, so it's a pain to have to repeat it every time.
* With month-day, dates that are close together look more similar than they do with day-month. With year-month-day, the piece of information we often don't care about, and which is frequently just noise, is put up front, which makes things harder to tell apart.

Does this explain why month-day-year can make sense, at least in some cases?
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SirPrimalform: Month-day-year for numerical dates always struck me as completely insane.
For me, it's more of a direct conversion: 'date → word'.
For example: 09/19/2019
I read it as: <month>/<number>/<number>

If someone were to ask the date, the usual response would be in the 'MM/DD' format.

If I am to read it directly, my response would be:
•••09/19/2019•••
***September/nineteen/twenty'nineteen***
"The date is September 19, 2019"

As oppose to:
•••19-09-2019•••
***nineteen-September-twenty'nineteen***
"The date is 19 September 2019"
In Europe (in my country and I think most others in EU) it is most common to write date like:

19. 9. 2019

For today's date. You would write the date like this on anything you sign for example.

So whenever I read something and see an ambiguous date like 8/9 for example, I always have to figure out which format it's in (mostly by checking if the source is EU or US based). This led to me using mainly the word for the month instead of a number when communicating with english speakers to prevent confusion.

Similar problem with numbers (long scale vs short scale). But this problem is not as easily solved like the dates.
As a EU person, whenever I see a billion for example, I am always left wondering if it is actually a billion or a milliard.
Post edited September 19, 2019 by idbeholdME
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SirPrimalform: Month-day-year for numerical dates always struck me as completely insane.
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Lazarus_03: For me, it's more of a direct conversion: 'date → word'.
For example: 09/19/2019
I read it as: <month>/<number>/<number>

If someone were to ask the date, the usual response would be in the 'MM/DD' format.

If I am to read it directly, my response would be:
•••09/19/2019•••
***September/nineteen/twenty'nineteen***
"The date is September 19, 2019"

As oppose to:
•••19-09-2019•••
***nineteen-September-twenty'nineteen***
"The date is 19 September 2019"
I guess that's another difference. Here, the verbal date would be "the nineteenth of September, twenty-nineteen". But even accepting that you speak it with the day after the month, it still strikes me as crazy to put the day in between two larger values in the numerical date.
As dtgreene pointed out, mm-dd makes sense. It's just that if you add the year onto the end instead of the beginning, all that sense goes out of the window.
Even though I think the ISO date makes numerical sense, I would read it out as above. Same for 24-hour time, it's very common to use the 24-hour clock here, but I've never heard anyone say 16:30 as anything but "half (past) four". I guess I'm used to a disconnect between the written form and the verbal form.
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idbeholdME: Similar problem with numbers (long scale vs short scale). But this problem is not as easily solved like the dates.
As a EU person, whenever I see a billion for example, I am always left wondering if it is actually a billion or a milliard.
The UK adopted short scale before I was born, so I grew up with it entirely. Nonetheless, I think long scale actually makes more sense.
Post edited September 19, 2019 by SirPrimalform
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idbeholdME: So whenever I read something and see an ambiguous date like 8/9 for example, I always have to figure out which format it's in (mostly by checking if the source is EU or US based).
Sometimes I have that issue (though obviously the most common format is different here).

There's also a case of one particularl news website that has different editions for different parts of the world, and one of them has endorsed problematic views as its official stance (on the editorial board); therefore, it matters which edition I'm looking at. (The other editions don't have the same problem.)
Well I'll be damned. I created this topic almost 9 years ago, and it's still going?

YES, I'VE CONTRIBUTED SOMETHING USEFUL TO GOG!!!!
Post edited September 21, 2019 by ChaunceyK