Zimerius: So i start playing for maybe the first 10 hours before i become utterly dulled. Then in a couple of months i'll pick up the story and see how far i manage then.

vv221: There are games where I tend to do that, but I uninstall them for the months I am not going to play them anyway. Mostly to avoid having a cluttered list of games when I want to chose one.

Zimerius: (…)

vv221: I’m not sure to get what you mean by "offline library" here.

Do you mean the DRM-free installers? I keep all of them on a dedicated 12TB hard drive, with an automation script downloading the updated ones every night (from GOG, Humble Bundle and itch.io) so I don’t need to follow the updates manually.

But that’s not clutter, that’s simply owning a copy of what I bought ;)

vv221: I’m not limiting myself to GOG, actually only 20~25% of my DRM-free games come from GOG.

Despite my "limited" selection, I own several thousands DRM-free games. Out of an obviously much bigger pool of DRM-free games.

I would have shopped at other DRM-free games stores, like I actually already do. And I expect another of these stores would have taken its place as "the DRM-free place", in a similar way that I believe a world without Valve would have seen the rise of DRM anyway, only pushed by another actor.

vv221: To each their own, but to me the DRM is too much of a negative to be overcome by anything. Even for free, I simply do not want DRM in my games (or any other software/media by the way).

Magnitus: I have an account on Steam. I created it to view aggregated review scores for erotic games (many of them, you can't view unless you have an account).

But I have zero purchases on the Steam store which can be annoying, because it means I can't post there (the devs are often more active replying to inquiries in the Steam forums). Still, sticking to my guns on this one.

The only time I'd ever install the Steam client on a machine would be if I wanted to release a game (for troubleshooting purposes, Steam has too big of a market share to ignore), but I'd install it on a separate test machine. Wouldn't dream of polluting my main computer or even my side gaming boxes with one of those dreadful third party bloatware that runs in the background all the time. I'm the owner, captain and master of my computers, thank you very much.

Magnitus: To each his own. I hate drm in purchased products so much that if I didn't have a viable drm-free alternative to purchase from (that promotes games as drm-free, not that might be drm-free and perhaps I have to do hacks and whatnot), I'd stop purchasing games and I'd just play what I have (which is enough to last me a lifetime).

Under such a scenario, the only way I'd possibly consider paying for games in the future would be if a service like Netflix emerged for gaming. As in, you charge me about 20$ a month and give me access to thousands of games I don't own.

Its not ownership and it is horrible for preservation, but it is cheap and honest about what it is and I can respect that. And if game creators complain that they aren't making enough from their games under such a model, I'll tell them it is their own freaking fault for not selling their games drm-free. Want to make real money from your games? Then, give up some control. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

Magnitus: You know, I think the aholes making those decisions are not getting enough flak.

They should have their name and picture recorded for prosperity. That way, future generations can know that access to this or that game was lost forever, because such and such a CEO wanted to squeese the very last possible dollar from their product.

Timboli: But it is not always about how much choice, but if you are interested in something specific, as I stated.

Timboli: That is of course your choice, but as I stated, certainly for me, it depends on the game, and many games at Steam and Epic are what you could call DRM-Free Lite, and who knows what the future might bring, so I get for free while I can.

vv221: Here I am strict enough about my no-DRM rule that as soon as I learn that some game is not available DRM-free I usually lose all interest and forget about it. So I’m probably missing on many great games, but since I do not know about them this is not frustrating in any way.

The only exception being games from studios that used to release DRM-free builds but stopped doing it for some reason, the current worst offender being Supergiant Games with Hades, a game I know I would love to play.

Zimerius: Space Marine 2's Developer rejects DRM

as do the dev's from Payday 3 and Tekken 8

Zimerius: There are 3 open spots I NEED to fill with the best of the best DRM free titles

vv221: Here I am strict enough about my no-DRM rule that as soon as I learn that some game is not available DRM-free I usually lose all interest and forget about it. So I’m probably missing on many great games, but since I do not know about them this is not frustrating in any way.

vv221: Your choice is obviously at least as valid as mine, you won’t get any critics from me about that ;)

vv221: Rejecting Denuvo is one thing, rejecting DRM is another ;)
Are these games available outside of Steam? Otherwise Denuvo or not will not change a thing.

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vv221: - Alpha Centauri (could be replaced with Stellaris if you can’t get past the dated interface)
- Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun
- Shadowrun: Dragonfall

(looking at your current list, I think you would really enjoy all three/four games)

Zimerius: It's either Steam, XboX Windows or Epic's game store

vv221: So despite the developers/publishers claims, this game is not available DRM-free. That’s a shame.

Zimerius: I did another surprisingly difficult thing. I decided to decrease the installed game count to 50 (see attachment) Now i hate myself for doing it!
Pre non-steam era i've grown accustomed to have more than 300 titles installed. Somewhere along the way tho, i started with a chain of thoughts that atm suggest that large amounts of installed games actually hamper my cul the backlog initiative.