It's only those two games, I don't know if the earlier ones will ever be available. MangaGamer is also working on releasing Sengoku Rance, Rance Quest Magnum, Rance IX, and Rance X:
http://blog.mangagamer.org/project-status/

So. Which of the new releases is worthy of a purchase for those looking more of a story/plotwise? :D (soundtracks any good?)

So, I take it we're going to start censoring the sex in The Witcher 3? No? oh... Ok....

Oh goody, the old church ladies are out in force again. Has our lord and savior, the final boss from Kirby 3 commanded us to crucify these heathens in the name of caesar?

This is what we call "playing both fields." GOG has been doing it for a while now with their political bits.

I honestly wonder if there couldn't be a legal case here for misleading people. Someone here has to buy it to even find out for the other potential customers.

No, GOG, like any business, knows that sex appeal sells. However, to keep the SJ--Church ladies happy, they made sure to use the censored version. It's not like they aren't releasing the non-creepy ones, either. There's a nice, very kid-friendly VN included in the releases here, but heaven forbid anyone point it out.

The real irony is when you have an actual Christian (myself) coming in here defending "degenerate stuff." I'm not going to be buying this stuff any time soon, but I actually have to defend it on principle. I'd rather be part of the crowd that says "don't buy this," but i can't say there's a virtue in not buying it when people are trying to keep it from being a possibility in the first place. Taxation is not a form of charity.

Same reason all religions destroy the rival religions. You notice, the left won't give Christanity credit at all for being against this stuff. Then again, Christians weren't notorious for crucifying. Inquisitions were a small part of the whole history of Christanity, really, and it was only so when the religious governments (the church) saw their power threatened. Oh, right, now that Christianity isn't in power, we're not bothering to be moral busybodies? Funny that.

Given how any good business knows that sex sells, i'm honestly curious if there is one that managed to shine enough without it to even land on anyone's radar.

Oh, and i'm just going to throw out there that according to Pornhub, lesbian porn is more popular among women than straight porn. You can take that however you would like.

You'd be surprised how close you are to majority, really (this is without assuming you're suggesting you're non-straight).

I don't see women talk much about this sort of thing, but when women talk openly about such stuff, i do find women are usually quite open to "trying these things." Some admit it's sexual, and i'll let you judge the ones that say "eh, it's hilarious, I'm not really into it that way." Don't even relaly need to come to a conclusion on the second group, anyway: if you find it hilarious enough to play, it's plenty worth it. The number of women in the Dead or Alive community, for example, seems quite high compared to other fighting game communities (other than Smash).

But, hey, it's wrong to assume gender, but not sexual orientation? XD
I play female in monster hunter because the armor's less bland, and there's more armors available, usually. I've heard fun explanations, though: "If I have the stare at an ass all day playing this game, i'd rather it be a woman's." I'm not an ass man, but i can understand the logic. XD

Given that we can point until we're blue in the face that you usually don't see 12-year-olds with double Gs, implying that this are rarely (if ever) actually loli, it then becomes reasonable to assume you can't tell the age of men, either? People here aren't arguing for child porn, and ロリコン and ショタコン no more imply pedophilia than 眼鏡フェッチ ("glasses fetish") implies you have a thing for people who have vision issues.

EDIT: Just for fun, i'm going to bother to clarify why one might be interested in such a thing without being a pedophile.

With glasses, it's because we've culturally imprinted upon people that people with glasses are nerds, so when someone seeks someone with glasses, it's not vision problems they focus on, but the naughty librarian type, who is attractive because she's presumed to be intelligent which is helpful for raising children. This isn't unlike the ツンデレ which appears obsessive while simultaneously appearing hostile (meaning she's hard to get, but quite friendly once you get her) which in turn implies reliability (that she won't cheat, that she has her head on straight, etc).

Similarly, youthful bodies imply fertility (especially important for women): as a woman hits 30, she "hits the wall" (actually this is about 28, not 30, but we like round numbers), 'cause she only has about 10 years before she can't make babies. This is why we can't find old people attractive as easily. You say to most people "dude, she's 12" and we're like "ew, nvm" but an asian woman who's 30 but looks younger ('cause for white standards, south-east asians are pretty good at looking younger) is naturally going to appear more fertile to us, which (even if we don't want kids) subconsciously appeals more to us (like all other attributes, such as hip width, breast size, etc). Consequently, a woman who's just barely legal, but manages to look younger than that is going to mess with some heads, especially if they have the right attributes (so they look young, but they look overly fertile with huge "fun bags").

This doesn't mean we're attracted to underage women, but part of why we don't have a counter-response is because the drawing style of post 2000s anime favors making people look younger than they appear (seriously, look at the evolution of Bulma from dragonball). To make matters worse, most people can't even tell you why pedophilia is bad (largely because we forgot, since we like to believe that censoring something can make the issues go away forever), which is why we're starting to have the discussions again (same with polyamory/polygamy). Now, I can tell you that we have ages of consent because bodily maturity and mental maturity are not the same, especially in a world where we (attempt to) give equal freedoms (and freedoms come with responsibilities), and that maturity is difficult to define, etc, but can also say that the line has to be drawn somewhere before 50 but not at physical maturity; but most people don't know that debate (and this causes a whole host of issues now that the debates on age of consent are reopening).

AMEN!

Do I really want to weigh in here? I guess...though I like almost no "pure" VNs. I prefer them mixed with gameplay.

A constant question (phrased with varying degrees of intellect) I see is: "Y U sell censored?!"

From what I've gathered from butthurt Steam users and the devs who put up with them is that an uncensored version cannot be sold in all countries and cutting out those countries who do not allow uncensored games/VNs would cause significant losses to the publisher. So there is that.

As long as patches are available and aren't a hassle to install, I'm fine with that, myself. If the game is still coherent without the explicit content, I'm fine with that too.

Another factor is that GOG cares about their appearance. There aren't nude screenshots strewn about the place and there aren't a squillion games with 'Hentai' in the title. I'm quite sick of Steam's permissiveness and I've been spending more money here than there as of late. It could always be worse.

Honestly, i'd love to know why this is put on the devs and storefronts and not the customer or something.

Anyway, i'm fairly curious what countries and what laws we're talking about. I have no fear downloading and assisting anyone installing some sort of patch, legally speaking. Are the patches illegal, too? Why do devs like Huniepot then offer the patches if they're illegal? I'm really cynical, and for good reason. I can understand it being an issue without legal reasons: maybe I'm OK with a child playing a game with women are flirty with them, but suddenly when body parts are shown, that's a no-no (for any number of reasons). Still, then i'm not the target audience. Why not make an in game option with "parental controls" or something like that? Mortal Kombat had the blood level thing. Sometimes they can be a pain to find and/or install. I can't imagnie my girlfriend, for example, successfully installing such a patch like the one where you have to make an empty file with a certain name in a certain directory. Do you know how hard it is for the average person to do that? I remember when she wanted to move her steam from one drive to another drive, she managed to screw up the step-by-step directions, and this is a woman in her 20s who spends more time in tech than i do as an assembly programmer. That's one thing, but selling uncensored games? They imply the games are actually uncensored on the sales pages, too. Clearly it's not appearance, especially when the company sells the game notorious for having over 16 hours of sexual content (The Witcher 3). I can understand keeping things PG on the site, but enforcing this in the product.... nah... Not buying this story. I expect consistency.

I don't have an exhaustive list, all I've heard from devs is "if we do not censor our game, we cannot sell it in all territories". China is one I know for sure since some devs have gone out of their way to make specific Chinese versions of their games.

This is what I found (source: Wikipedia):

Section 5 of the Computer Information Network and Internet Security, Protection, and Management Regulations
The Ordinance regulation further led to the Security Management Procedures in Internet Accessing issued by the Ministry of Public Security in December 1997. The regulation defines "harmful information" and "harmful activities" regarding internet usage.[27] Section Five of the Computer Information Network and Internet Security, Protection, and Management Regulations approved by the State Council on 11 December 1997 states the following:

No unit or individual may use the Internet to create, replicate, retrieve, or transmit the following kinds of information:

Inciting to resist or breaking the Constitution or laws or the implementation of administrative regulations;
Inciting to overthrow the government or the socialist system;
Inciting division of the country, harming national unification;
Inciting hatred or discrimination among nationalities or harming the unity of the nationalities;
Making falsehoods or distorting the truth, spreading rumors, destroying the order of society;
Promoting feudal superstitions, sexually suggestive material, gambling, violence, murder;
Terrorism or inciting others to criminal activity; openly insulting other people or distorting the truth to slander people;
Injuring the reputation of state organizations;
Other activities against the Constitution, laws or administrative regulations.[28]

Patches can be provided in territories where such content is not illegal. Of course, one can skirt the law if they so desire.

I agree about parental controls, but, let's be honest, how effective are they? Unfortunately, that's something that falls on the devs, some of whom can't be arsed to keep up with them or care about their ease of use. From what I have heard (yeah, I own all the Witcher games and haven't played more than 5 minutes of the first one), the Witcher games don't have sexual intercourse on full display. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Most VNs are quite explicit. Still, GOG looks less like a sleazy adult bookstore than Steam does.

Edit: Okay, so I looked over the releases today and I noticed that only the Ni no Kame ones have the warning about sexual content and nudity. I'm honestly stumped about why that is.

That's china, though. GOG probably isn't able to sell in china to begin with. I'm sure we could cite an even bigger list for North Korea, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, etc, but these aren't the customers we're talking about. And the same thing can be said when the devs offer the patches on their website than if it was sold in that form to begin with. The patch becomes illegal instead of the game, but either way the dev is still screwed. I could see GOG not wanting to take that chance, but then why chance it to begin with? I think we'd be naive if we assumed governments wouldn't hold GOG responsible when the patches usually don't actually contain the content, but merely a key to unlock the (presumably illegal) content already in the files. At thta point, they still broke the law. Not very effective, but still more effective than a patch system. And on the store: people are expecting certain content with a certain product, and suddenly they play the blame game? It's no different from when TecmoKoei told me that my problem with their game was my brand new hard drive. Yeah, i tested it, and they just emphatically stated it was my hard drive. In the end, it's on their ass, not mine, not the hard drive, not the manufactuer of my hard drive, etc. As a customer, i place that blame appropriately, and have not bought a product of their since, no matter how tempting, because I know they won't support the product for it's intended purpose. If i pay for something, i shouldn't have to go to a 3rd party site to get the full product of what i paid for, just as i shouldn't have a 3rd party account to get non-sexual content, or use 3rd party DRM, etc. You see everything but the penis enterting the vagina. Games are censoring things like toplessness, while in The Witcher nudity is unavoidable content, and sex scenes are avoidable, but not censored as far as i remember from The Witcher 3. Feel free to look up a scene for yourself, i'm sure someone out there has them uploaded online.

My honest opinion about the matter is that the publishers might have something to do with it, instead of just the usual censorship protocols being applied. Do you realize, as of late, I've been noticing that 18+patches are being sold separately or a full 18+ game version is on sale for a marked-up rate. This might be a new tactic to entice people to spend a little more on a game version they wish to covet.

The national anthem attracts nazis, does that mean that we should ban national flags and anthems or judge it solely for the handful of nazis?

And no, i didn't argue it wasn't loli, just that Loli isn't child porn or necessarily for pedophiles. Loli is loli, but not all things considered loli are even loli, either.

That could be fair, but then why aren't both versions available? Why advertise the game in a way as to imply it is the uncut version?

Are you also actively campaigning to fully & legally criminalize bestiality in your country just as much as you campaign against anime/VN's? Just curious.

I had a reply and the site ate it. I'm too tired to type it out again.

Short version: Devs don't want to be held accountable, retailers don't want to invite controversy, and rules may vary from country to country.

I dislike how GOG only distributes all-ages VNs. It tells me that GOG doesn't respect their customer's maturity.