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He is coming, stalking criminals in the spirit world and the real world. A classic from 1999 comes back in a new version with refreshed graphics and the same engaging gameplay. Shadow Man Remastered is now available on GOG.COM along with a 25% discount that will end on 22nd April 2021, 5 PM UTC. The game comes with a digital comic book!

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TZODnmr2k5: Yeah, as that's what happened with several remastered titles, though I hope I'm wrong, it's good to back it up just in case!
It's alsways safe to back tings up - but afaik they never have renoved the original from the LIBRARY when offering the remaster - only from the store. In fact when they removed the game from store they posted that you will keep the game in your library if you bought it before the removal.
Post edited April 17, 2021 by MarkoH01
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NewPyk: I don't know about other countries but in Poland I can't buy original version on Steam. I'm missing something or this whole "Steam can have original why not GOG" just not true?
The game is delisted from Steam also. The Steam page says that the game is no longer for sale per developer request.
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In case somebody wants to know how the game changed. Here is a video that compares old and new reelase:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwUj7i5JVww
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gloombandit: ...and getting Skyrim on gog just puts the mightiest cherry on the top!
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Tarhiel: Wait, Skyrim was confirmed to end up here, or is this just wishful thinking (and we are thinking alike in that case :))?
no there was some evidence (iirc in the form of a database entry) that it might come here found several years ago.

but again, that was a fair amount of time ago. something could have fallen through due to negotiations or bethesda could have backed out or maybe it was never going to happen at all or maybe it still is going to happen. who knows.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: I'm definitely never buying anything from this publisher or dev unless they reverse course and do the right thing in regards to this matter.
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NewPyk: You're doing this becouse of ACHIEVEMENTS? Really? The one thing that nobody needs to be added to old titles? The most dull reward? Yes, go to barricades!
It's actually amazing the number of people who absolutely will get their panties in a twist over missing achievements/trophies. They are by far the most useless and unnecessary part of a video game but some people (typicall younger) expect them to be mandatory. I personally just find them an annoyance more than anything.
Achievements are just digital participation trophies. Participation trophies were a terrible idea in the '90s and they aren't any better now.
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fronzelneekburm: How come the original version (which happens to be less than 30% the price of this new version) is still readily available on Steam?

Gog seems rather eager to pull stuff. Kinda reminds me of a claim some Beamdog staffer once made that it was gog who pulled the original versions of Baldur's Gate and Planetescape Tournament, out of their own volition, rather than Beamdog explicitly requesting their removal.
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KetobaK: They removed it because the original is included with the remaster, you can download as a goodie.
Are you sure? The <i>GOG Database</i> downloads page doesn't show it as a goodie; neither does the GOG store page. If it is included, is the soundtrack also included?
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fronzelneekburm: So what? Maybe someone's just not in the mood to pay $20 for a 22 year old game and they'd be perfectly fine with the $5 original version. Steam customers are apparently afforded that luxury. Gog customers aren't. How come?
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M3troid: The original was here for years and now "someone" want to buy?

OK, then.
I know it's hard to believe, but not everyone who is registered on GOG today has been here for years. Regardless of that, my point about the soundtrack still stands -- it was included as a goodie with the original version and apparently is not included with the remastered version.
Post edited April 17, 2021 by cmclout
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cmclout: Are you sure?
Read the first line of both descriptions for the enhanced editions of the Baldur's Gate games.
Post edited April 17, 2021 by DoomSooth
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NewPyk: I don't know about other countries but in Poland I can't buy original version on Steam. I'm missing something or this whole "Steam can have original why not GOG" just not true?
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bluethief: The game is delisted from Steam also. The Steam page says that the game is no longer for sale per developer request.
When the remastered version was released, the original was immediately pulled from GOG, but it was still available on Steam (hence some of us saying it was still on Steam). It was removed from Steam this afternoon (16 April 2021 at 16:57:16 UTC).
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NewPyk: You're doing this becouse of ACHIEVEMENTS? Really? The one thing that nobody needs to be added to old titles? The most dull reward? Yes, go to barricades!
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paladin181: That's his schtick. He goes into offended Karen mode if a game doesn't have the same achievements as Steam. He likes to complain. If the Achievements were so important to him, he'd just buy on Steam. But no, he wants everything. DRM-Free and achievements when the reality is GOG probably doesn't generate many publisher/developers enough revenue to justify someone recoding the achievements for Galaxy, and we should really be grateful they let us buy it DRM free to begin with, since that is a dying principle even here on GOG.
I couldn't care less about achievements, so the lack of achievements wouldn't bother me other than the principle of being treated like a second-rate purchaser and paying the same while getting less. However, with regard to your last sentence, I have to say, I've never been a fan of the "Shut up, take what they give you, and smile" ideology. It's exactly that attitude that has let developers (of games and general software) force their will upon us and tell us what we are allowed to do with our computers (for example, by removing options and settings, removing compatibility, refusing to fix bugs, etc), as well as change from perpetual licensing (where you pay only once) to a subscription model where you pay monthly and lose access when you stop paying.

Lastly, you're really going to complain, on a GOG message board, that someone wants games to be DRM-free?
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cmclout: Are you sure?
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DoomSooth: Read the first line of both descriptions for the enhanced editions of the Baldur's Gate games.
fronzelneekburm mentioned this game (Shadow Man) and then Baldur's Gate and Planetescape Tournament. KetobaK didn't specify to which game he/she was referring, and I interpreted the response as saying this game (Shadow Man) was removed because the original is included with the remaster as a goodie.

If KetobaK meant the original Baldur's Gate was included as a goodie with the Enhanced Edition, then that statement would be technically incorrect, as it was not included as a goodie; the original game was added to the purchaser's library as a separate game. The same was true for Planescape: Torment.
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Cheesewheeljones: They are in my opinion by far the most useless and unnecessary part of a video game but some people (typicall younger) expect them to be mandatory. I personally just find them an annoyance more than anything.
FTFY (It really puzzles me how people still can think that a subjective opinion can be stated as a fact).
Regarding achievements - as I said - many. many people like them so those who dislike them might even be the minority, which makkes it even stranger to see how eager they are to point out how useless they think they are. if I am not mistaken Steam actually demands or at least wants devs to include achievements and there is a reason GOG Galaxy devs went the extra mile to make them possibble in Galaxy as well ... of course it is also strange that they never invented a simple way to turn Steam achievements into Galaxy achievements which probably is the main reason why GOG is missing so many achievements FOR THOSE WHO LIKE THEM.
Speaking about removed original games : the 2 Bloodrayne and 3 Fallout games .
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MarkoH01: FTFY (It really puzzles me how people still can think that a subjective opinion can be stated as a fact). Regarding achievements - as I said - many. many people like them so those who dislike them might even be the minority, which makes it even stranger to see how eager they are to point out how useless they think they are. if I am not mistaken Steam actually demands or at least wants devs to include achievements and there is a reason GOG Galaxy devs went the extra mile to make them possible in Galaxy as well - of course it is also strange that they never invented a simple way to turn Steam achievements into Galaxy achievements which probably is the main reason why GOG is missing so many achievements FOR THOSE WHO LIKE THEM.
Steam encourage them partially as a soft "enhancement" to their DRM, ie, "We suggest enhancing the value of legitimate copies of your game by using Steamworks features which won't work on non-legitimate copies (e.g. online multiplayer, achievements, leaderboards, trading cards, etc.)." quoted from their Steamworks DRM developer page.

GOG seem determined to copy Steam because they want to become Steam-Lite (in all the wrong areas). And the problem with achievements on GOG is that they don't come without compromise. Eg, GOG actually have come up with a "ghost wrapper" that "translates Steam achievements to Galaxy ones" as you suggested above, and it's having negative performance effects on startup times for offline installers (read this and this for examples).

The reason many people dislike them on GOG isn't "Someone else likes what I don't and I want to spoil their fun", but rather the measurable negative effect they are having on offline installers as seen in above links, on top of it being an already uphill struggle enough to get GOG to focus on offline installers "naturally" without being further distracted by the client obsession.
Post edited April 17, 2021 by AB2012
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NewPyk: You're doing this becouse of ACHIEVEMENTS? Really? The one thing that nobody needs to be added to old titles? The most dull reward? Yes, go to barricades!
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Cheesewheeljones: It's actually amazing the number of people who absolutely will get their panties in a twist over missing achievements/trophies. They are by far the most useless and unnecessary part of a video game but some people (typicall younger) expect them to be mandatory. I personally just find them an annoyance more than anything.
I don't have anything against achievements in general. They can be fun, clever and challenging. But this is mostly the case when developer is thinking about them WHILE MAKING the game. Not so much when they try to slap them on classic titles. Most times there are dull and unimaginative. I've checked those for Shadowm Man on Steam and it looks like I was right: most of them as just plot ones, you will get them just by plaing the game. Another good exaplme is Flashback 25th anniverary. There are TWO interesting trophies (finishing game without rewind). And that was my whole point of replay to this guy, He wanted to neglect all developer past and future work becouse of some minor detail he dosn't like. It could be soundtrack, artbook etc. I just don't get it.