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Sabin_Stargem: I am opposed to your viewpoint, because your stance is about giving corporations the ultimate freedom to ruin people
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BreOl72: Nope. It isn't.
My stance is that everyone has free will.
My stance is, that it's up to everyone to decide in what ways they use this free will.
As long as whatever someone decides to do is legal - I have no right to keep them from doing it.
And neither do you (or anybody else).

My personal beliefs and/or opinions are irrelevant in that matter.
And so are yours (and everybody else's).

Your stance however seem to be:

I know better than all others, so I should decide what everybody is allowed, or not allowed, to do with their money, their time, their health,...in short: with their lives.

Sounds eerily familiar to what some of our ancestors experienced.

You hide behind the "From Other" tag...where do you come from/where do you live?
Your ignorance is on par with your hypocrisy, as pornography is known to shink the portion of the brain that's associated with self-restraint. It also contributes to depression, social anxiety, and impotency.
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TomNuke: Also, would you like to share with us all the RPG Maker games or the 3D rendered visual novels you've created? You seem to be an expert on the development of these kinds of works from your claims of them being low effort and cash grabs. If you genuinely think that, then you should actually try creating something yourself.
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bombardier: Currently i work on a complex multi threaded high performance processing software weighing at around 1.5 millions of lines of C++ code, but in my younger years I did some work on open source games and 3d renderings as a hobby.

I knew enough to know that I better quit early, since my renders were looking similar to the way these 3D porn games and comics look. Poor texturing, unnatural poses and terrible lighting was alI I could manage, so I know how little knowledge and effort it is needed to make something like that.

It might appear complex and difficult for someone who never tried it, but there is very small gap to cross from not knowing how to make a 3d image to making this bad a 3d image compared to insurmountable abyss that stands between this type of work and high quality render.
We're talking about developers that work on like 60 renders a week. Making sure every pose is just right. Making sure the lighting is perfect. Take the City Of Broken Dreamers dev for example. The poses certainly aren't unnatural there. You haven't played either of these games and can't go by just a handful of screenshots. You know people pay money in the Patreon for exclusive renders, so he must be doing something right, whereas you skipped out on it. It's easy to talk a big game, but talk is cheap when you have nothing to show for it. You dropped out and they're still in. Especially when they're getting paid for this work, they have highly successful projects with thousands of fans, and you my friend, well... You don't.
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TheGrimLord: Also, hey. Let's just get the cat out of the bag right now and say that women are also gonna be interested in these games. Some already are. Women are a little more discreet with their adult games, they don't really talk about it so much, but they're there as part of the adult gaming community. But you'll have a woman that's a bit more daring, look at some of the scenes and whisper... "hey, that's kinda hot, kinda kinky" and she'll smile and laugh. Because she gets it's not real. A lot of these gals just want more of this stuff out because they really dig it and it's on the down low. Maia and I are gonna discuss that in another interview this month.
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richlind33: Degredation is way cool these days among those who've lost their way and and can't distinguish up from down. Porn is just one more addiction to get lost in, if getting lost is what you're into, but is it "harmless"? Of course not, because there is absolutely nothing in this world that is. So why lie about it and pretend that it is? Because that is the psychology of an addict: to minimize the harmfulness of what they're doing and pretend that they're in control. And modern research is showing that pornography has some very nasty effects on the human mind, one of which is that plain vanilla porn doesn't satisfy indefinitely with respect to arousal, which is why pornographers exploit taboos like rape, incest, etc.
I personally don't care. You can be anti-porn all you like. Just don't expect everyone to agree with your virtue signaling. If you don't like GOG and don't want to support this kind of material, then go somewhere else. But it's on pretty much every single platform now, just several have filters for it and GOG does not. Even Z*** will have filters when they do porn as I discussed with their owner. Feel free to be against it all you like, it isn't going to stop people from buying it. It just makes you look prudish and silly. Most people buying it aren't gonna care about the opinion of people who don't like the content.
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bombardier: If your local health food store started selling hot dogs by a moto "it's all just free will" would it make sense to you?
Well, both they, and local pharmacies, do sell purified water and sugar pills, at extremely high prices, with labels claiming they have health benefit other than helping with mild dehydration or hypoglycemia, and everyone seems mostly fine with it...
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bombardier: Currently i work on a complex multi threaded high performance processing software weighing at around 1.5 millions of lines of C++ code, but in my younger years I did some work on open source games and 3d renderings as a hobby.

I knew enough to know that I better quit early, since my renders were looking similar to the way these 3D porn games and comics look. Poor texturing, unnatural poses and terrible lighting was alI I could manage, so I know how little knowledge and effort it is needed to make something like that.

It might appear complex and difficult for someone who never tried it, but there is very small gap to cross from not knowing how to make a 3d image to making this bad a 3d image compared to insurmountable abyss that stands between this type of work and high quality render.
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TheGrimLord: We're talking about developers that work on like 60 renders a week. Making sure every pose is just right. Making sure the lighting is perfect. Take the City Of Broken Dreamers dev for example. The poses certainly aren't unnatural there. You haven't played either of these games and can't go by just a handful of screenshots. You know people pay money in the Patreon for exclusive renders, so he must be doing something right, whereas you skipped out on it. It's easy to talk a big game, but talk is cheap when you have nothing to show for it. You dropped out and they're still in. Especially when they're getting paid for this work, they have highly successful projects with thousands of fans, and you my friend, well... You don't.
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richlind33: Degredation is way cool these days among those who've lost their way and and can't distinguish up from down. Porn is just one more addiction to get lost in, if getting lost is what you're into, but is it "harmless"? Of course not, because there is absolutely nothing in this world that is. So why lie about it and pretend that it is? Because that is the psychology of an addict: to minimize the harmfulness of what they're doing and pretend that they're in control. And modern research is showing that pornography has some very nasty effects on the human mind, one of which is that plain vanilla porn doesn't satisfy indefinitely with respect to arousal, which is why pornographers exploit taboos like rape, incest, etc.
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TheGrimLord: I personally don't care. You can be anti-porn all you like. Just don't expect everyone to agree with your virtue signaling. If you don't like GOG and don't want to support this kind of material, then go somewhere else. But it's on pretty much every single platform now, just several have filters for it and GOG does not. Even Z*** will have filters when they do porn as I discussed with their owner. Feel free to be against it all you like, it isn't going to stop people from buying it. It just makes you look prudish and silly. Most people buying it aren't gonna care about the opinion of people who don't like the content.
Addicts care about getting their next fix, and not much more. Those who promote addictive products are IMO parasites, because we're talking about captive markets. It's psychological slavery, nothing less and nothing more.
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FrodoBaggins: C'mon GOG, enough with the disgusting porn!

Having games that parade the women around with their private parts bulging out, treating them like objects, is not okay! It's degrading and it's insulting! Do you enjoy insulting half of your user-base?

I used to be proud to direct people to GOG. But now... with this crap... I'm so ashamed!
wheres the women?
I only see cartoon babes in the pictures
and why are you ashemed on behalf of cartoon characters?
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TheGrimLord: Also, hey. Let's just get the cat out of the bag right now and say that women are also gonna be interested in these games. Some already are. Women are a little more discreet with their adult games, they don't really talk about it so much, but they're there as part of the adult gaming community. But you'll have a woman that's a bit more daring, look at some of the scenes and whisper... "hey, that's kinda hot, kinda kinky" and she'll smile and laugh. Because she gets it's not real. A lot of these gals just want more of this stuff out because they really dig it and it's on the down low. Maia and I are gonna discuss that in another interview this month.
Oh, totally. Women make up a significant part of the adult gaming community. You can take a look at someone like Mangagamer with their licensing surveys and women make up over a third of their customer base. It's not just consuming the products that women are a taking part in either. There's so many women in the business itself and creating content. Some of the most popular hentai artists are in fact women.

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richlind33: Degredation is way cool these days among those who've lost their way and and can't distinguish up from down. Porn is just one more addiction to get lost in, if getting lost is what you're into, but is it "harmless"? Of course not, because there is absolutely nothing in this world that is. So why lie about it and pretend that it is? Because that is the psychology of an addict: to minimize the harmfulness of what they're doing and pretend that they're in control. And modern research is showing that pornography has some very nasty effects on the human mind, one of which is that plain vanilla porn doesn't satisfy indefinitely with respect to arousal, which is why pornographers exploit taboos like rape, incest, etc.
The same thing could be said about gaming in general. Don't you think it's kind of hypocritical to single out adult games here, but not gaming in general?

Is gaming in general something that can be an addiction? How many people are self medicating with gaming and ruining their lives with an addiction that's out of control? What about the ultra violent games that some many young people are consuming throughout their day and the modern research that shows the negative effects that some of these games have on people also?

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bombardier: Currently i work on a complex multi threaded high performance processing software weighing at around 1.5 millions of lines of C++ code, but in my younger years I did some work on open source games and 3d renderings as a hobby.

I knew enough to know that I better quit early, since my renders were looking similar to the way these 3D porn games and comics look. Poor texturing, unnatural poses and terrible lighting was alI I could manage, so I know how little knowledge and effort it is needed to make something like that.

It might appear complex and difficult for someone who never tried it, but there is very small gap to cross from not knowing how to make a 3d image to making this bad a 3d image compared to insurmountable abyss that stands between this type of work and high quality render.
I mean absolutely no offense to you by saying this, but it sounds like you just weren't very good at it, or weren't willing to put in the effort if that was all you could manage. There's amazing things people are creating today, and it's incredibly popular. You have guys that are absolutely making a killing and will be set to retire early if they want by doing this stuff.

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richlind33: Addicts care about getting their next fix, and not much more. Those who promote addictive products are IMO parasites, because we're talking about captive markets. It's psychological slavery, nothing less and nothing more.
Why the insults? When is that ever necessary? It's really an indictment on you and your character when you go down that path. There's no need to call others parasites because they like a different genre of games than you do.

Is GOG and it's staff parasites also? Games of all types are addictive products, but again, you're singling out something that you don't like, because you're not mature enough to ignore something that you don't think should exist.
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richlind33: Degredation is way cool these days among those who've lost their way and and can't distinguish up from down. Porn is just one more addiction to get lost in, if getting lost is what you're into, but is it "harmless"? Of course not, because there is absolutely nothing in this world that is. So why lie about it and pretend that it is? Because that is the psychology of an addict: to minimize the harmfulness of what they're doing and pretend that they're in control. And modern research is showing that pornography has some very nasty effects on the human mind, one of which is that plain vanilla porn doesn't satisfy indefinitely with respect to arousal, which is why pornographers exploit taboos like rape, incest, etc.
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TomNuke: The same thing could be said about gaming in general. Don't you think it's kind of hypocritical to single out adult games here, but not gaming in general?

Is gaming in general something that can be an addiction? How many people are self medicating with gaming and ruining their lives with an addiction that's out of control? What about the ultra violent games that some many young people are consuming throughout their day and the modern research that shows the negative effects that some of these games have on people also?
I've acknowledged a number of times on this forum that gaming is designed to be addictive, much like cigarrettes were chemically modified to have increased addictiveness, so no, I'm not a hypocrite.
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richlind33: Addicts care about getting their next fix, and not much more. Those who promote addictive products are IMO parasites, because we're talking about captive markets. It's psychological slavery, nothing less and nothing more.
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TomNuke: Why the insults? When is that ever necessary? It's really an indictment on you and your character when you go down that path. There's no need to call others parasites because they like a different genre of games than you do.

Is GOG and it's staff parasites also? Games of all types are addictive products, but again, you're singling out something that you don't like, because you're not mature enough to ignore something that you don't think should exist.
Is it offensive to refer to drug traffickers/dealers as parasites when their "business" benfits them immensely, while causing great harm to those whom they prey upon? I'd say that's an extremely accurate description. Parasitism is the opposite of
mutualism, and is also extremely destructive to societies, not just the individuals they exploit, as it fosters dysfunctionality in individuals, families, communities, organizations, etc. So no, I'm not using the term as a pejorative.
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TomNuke: Why the insults? When is that ever necessary? It's really an indictment on you and your character when you go down that path. There's no need to call others parasites because they like a different genre of games than you do.

Is GOG and it's staff parasites also? Games of all types are addictive products, but again, you're singling out something that you don't like, because you're not mature enough to ignore something that you don't think should exist.
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richlind33: Is it offensive to refer to drug traffickers/dealers as parasites when their "business" benfits them immensely, while causing great harm to those whom they prey upon? I'd say that's an extremely accurate description. Parasitism is the opposite of
mutualism, and is also extremely destructive to societies, not just the individuals they exploit, as it fosters dysfunctionality in individuals, families, communities, organizations, etc. So no, I'm not using the term as a pejorative.
Im pretty sure you know
but games are a legal product
drugs not so much
and its a silly argument
Alot of products that people buy have the ability to be adactive to the custommer that buys it
no one is arguing that any other seller are preying on custommers that are old enough or hopefully responsible enough to buy these other products in question
Forexample do you suggest that any other product seller are preying upon people tthat become extreme hoarders of all types of items?

Because according to your reasoning here the sellers of the comercial legal products are benifitting from sales to custommers that cant stop themself from hoarding products in an unhealthy manner
and shoud therfore be called parasites?
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megajellyfish: the people seething at this release is utterly hilarious to me.
While this game is not my cup of team why shit on other people's taste?
Not every game can be karryn's prison. :^)
Well it's the same usual 3-4 trolls in all threads, at this point it's becomes background noise.
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Fellas, this isn't gonna work. I appreciate your enthusiasm, but there's no way any of us are going to be able to reason with richlind. He really wants to die on the hill of "porn is the most horrible thing in all of society and it destroys families" trad crap I hear all the time. This is just gonna go around and round until one of the mods gets tired of it and locks the thread. Some people want to be martyrs and that's fine. It's also really silly when it comes to something like porn, but I'm sure a lot of this might have to do with the guy's personal upbringing, religious experience and all that sort of thing.

I have nothing against religion either. I just know I don't want to have to sit and hear about this for the next damn week.
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bombardier: Currently i work on a complex multi threaded high performance processing software weighing at around 1.5 millions of lines of C++ code, but in my younger years I did some work on open source games and 3d renderings as a hobby.

I knew enough to know that I better quit early, since my renders were looking similar to the way these 3D porn games and comics look. Poor texturing, unnatural poses and terrible lighting was alI I could manage, so I know how little knowledge and effort it is needed to make something like that.

It might appear complex and difficult for someone who never tried it, but there is very small gap to cross from not knowing how to make a 3d image to making this bad a 3d image compared to insurmountable abyss that stands between this type of work and high quality render.
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TomNuke: I mean absolutely no offense to you by saying this, but it sounds like you just weren't very good at it, or weren't willing to put in the effort if that was all you could manage. There's amazing things people are creating today, and it's incredibly popular. You have guys that are absolutely making a killing and will be set to retire early if they want by doing this stuff.
I tell you that I reached the level where I could produce garbage that was the level of the current porn titles, yet you tell me that I was bad at it, and they are good at it?

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megajellyfish: the people seething at this release is utterly hilarious to me.
While this game is not my cup of team why shit on other people's taste?
Not every game can be karryn's prison. :^)
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Gersen: Well it's the same usual 3-4 trolls in all threads, at this point it's becomes background noise.
Just like releases of non masturbatory material are just a background noise here on GOG.
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TheGrimLord: Also, hey. Let's just get the cat out of the bag right now and say that women are also gonna be interested in these games. Some already are. Women are a little more discreet with their adult games, they don't really talk about it so much, but they're there as part of the adult gaming community. But you'll have a woman that's a bit more daring, look at some of the scenes and whisper... "hey, that's kinda hot, kinda kinky" and she'll smile and laugh. Because she gets it's not real. A lot of these gals just want more of this stuff out because they really dig it and it's on the down low. Maia and I are gonna discuss that in another interview this month.
Your argument is also valid for DRM games.

There are actually more gamers who play DRMed games than there is people who masturbate on games, yet GOG doesn't sell DRM games.
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TheGrimLord: I personally don't care. You can be anti-porn all you like. Just don't expect everyone to agree with your virtue signaling. If you don't like GOG and don't want to support this kind of material, then go somewhere else. But it's on pretty much every single platform now, just several have filters for it and GOG does not. Even Z*** will have filters when they do porn as I discussed with their owner. Feel free to be against it all you like, it isn't going to stop people from buying it. It just makes you look prudish and silly. Most people buying it aren't gonna care about the opinion of people who don't like the content.
Another one who virtue signals about virtue signaling. :)
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Very nice.
Hope we see more of these offerings on GOG.
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These anything-goes liberals are like animals. Only beasts have no decency and cannot control their urges. All these kagura fans are slaves to lust.
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