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If a steamy science-fiction visual novel sounds like something you’d enjoy – this title is sure to grab your attention!

3001: A Lust Odyssey is focusing on exploring the final frontier. The game is packed with romance and multiple references to popular sci-fi culture, as you play as a young male ensign and build up your career.

Now on GOG!
I took the dive to see how far things went and I found scenes and parts of the script that could have been ripped straight from episodes of Star Trek: TNG.

Example Episodes:

"Encounter at Farpoint" - The first encounter with Q is copied almost line by line in this game including the Q analogue here switching between different military uniforms, calling humanity a savage race, and taking an idea from the captain to place humanity on trial. The dialogue is parts is essentially copied line by line and there is no attempt to make appear as parody.

"Q Who" - The first encounter with the Borg is copied straight from the show, happens in the same location, the Q Analogue appears giving the info dump on the species.


The way these sections are placed it can easily fall under plagiarism rather than parody.

There are other events that are very similar to episodes like "The Child" but are not exact copies.
If Stanley Kubrick were still around, I'd be curious as to his reaction.
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SargonAelther: Space Balls mocks many other movies, not just Star Wars. It also mocks Star Trek, Alien, Planet of the Apes, etc, and he was a lot less concerned with changing those. In the case of alien, he even hired the same exact actor who played the first victim of the chest burster in the original Alien, to reprise his role, so he could say "Oh no, not again".
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Breja: Yeah, and that was (focus now, cause this is highly complex) the joke. There is no "not again" line without John Hurt. Where is the joke in just using the same exact models of starships and stations? It's not a parody, there is no joke, it's just lazy stealing and using the "my games has boobs in it" clause as a get out of jail free card.
Fair use does not have to have Jokes(Elaborate or not) nor does it need to be a parody, it's just a derivative work. If something is fair use or not has a lot of factors(In the US and Germany, I can't speak for Poland but I'm sure GoG has some Lawyers in this regard themselves).
Boobs are not a get free card, all of this has been done before, in fact I assume if there wasn't boobs in this game you wouldn't be so up in arms about the whole thing.
Post edited June 03, 2024 by Reaper9988
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TheBigCore: If Stanley Kubrick were still around, I'd be curious as to his reaction.
Probably a similar reaction as how Steven Spielberg reacted to "Saving Ryan's Privates".

He was furious, I can tell you that. He vowed to never make another movie but I managed to change his mind by "Come on, at least make one more indie movie...".

He thought I said "indy movie", so yeah, I guess you can thank me for the "Indiana Jones and the kingdom of the crystal skull"... Not my proudest moment, but not my most shameful moment either. Somewhere there in the middle.
Post edited June 03, 2024 by timppu
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TheBigCore: If Stanley Kubrick were still around, I'd be curious as to his reaction.
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timppu: Probably a similar reaction as how Steven Spielberg reacted to "Saving Ryan's Privates".

He was furious, I can tell you that. He vowed to never make another movie but I managed to change his mind by "Come on, at least make one more indie movie...".

He thought I said "indy movie", so yeah, I guess you can thank me for the "Indiana Jones kingdom of the crystal skull"... Not my proudest moment, but not my most shameful moment either. Somewhere there in the middle.
<3 <3 <3
Well at least he isn't responsible for the newest "Indy" garbage then.
Post edited June 03, 2024 by Reaper9988
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Reaper9988: Fair use does not have to have Jokes(Elaborate or not) nor does it need to be a parody, it's just a derivative work. If something is fair use or not has a lot of factors(In the US and Germany, I can't speak for Poland but I'm sure GoG has some Lawyers in this regard themselves).
I'm not arguing the legality here, I'm just saying that it's a lazy, shameless rip-off that does nothing with what it steals that would, to me, justify it, even if it can legally get away with it.

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Reaper9988: Boobs are not a get free card, all of this has been done before, in fact I assume if there wasn't boobs in this game you wouldn't be so up in arms about the whole thing.
I have as litle power of your assumptions. You're absolutely wrong in this case. In fact, I've recently seen trailers for another game (Starship SImulator) that rips-off Star Trek wholesale similarly to this one, only it's not porn, and I find it just to be almost as disgustingly lazy and shameless a rip-off as this. But hey, if you feel obliged to defend this "game" and deflecting my criticism by pointing out my general dislike for crappy plastic-doll graphic porn helps you sleep better - power to you.
Post edited June 03, 2024 by Breja
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BreOl72: Because Mel Brooks asked George Lucas, whether he could make fun of his franchise.
Lucas said: "ok - but under one condition, only: no merchandise!"
Well, if you know the movie, you know how Mel reacted to that condition. XD
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SargonAelther: If he actually did that,...
https://www.slashfilm.com/1030796/george-lucas-only-rule-for-mel-brooks-spaceballs-inspired-one-of-the-films-funniest-scenes/

Quote:
"So, years later when Mel Brooks contacted George Lucas about a "Star Wars" parody, Lucas had only one rule, and it had nothing to do with what we saw on-screen.

As influential as "Star Wars" was for Hollywood movies, it made an even bigger splash in how Hollywood ties merchandising into its films.
George Lucas made a groundbreaking merchandising deal with 20th Century Fox, turning down an additional $500,000 payment for directing the film in exchange for the movie's licensing and merchandising rights.
It gave Lucas total control of the "Star Wars" universe, including future films and any product licensing.

The immediate merchandising, which included seemingly every toy under the sun, more than covered Lucas' gamble.
Theaters continued to fill as "Star Wars" toys flew off the shelves, leading to two original sequels and cementing Lucas' legacy in Hollywood.
The licensing became the gift that kept on giving to the tune of $4 billion when Lucas sold the "Star Wars" franchise to Disney in 2012.

Although his focus might be on the movie, he knew what he had on his hands.
When Mel Brooks came calling with the pitch of a "Star Wars parody" the only concern Lucas had was the merchandising tie-ins.
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As he did with other parody films, Brooks went to the creator of the source material, in this case, Lucas, for his blessing to produce "Spaceballs."

In his book "All About Me!" Brooks explains that Lucas only had one request in spoofing "Star Wars."
Brooks wrote:

"He [Lucas] said he had seen 'Blazing Saddles' and 'Young Frankenstein' and was a big fan.
He enjoyed the script, and only had one real caveat for me: no action figures.
He explained that if I made toys of my Spaceballs characters they would look a lot like Star Wars action figures.
So even though in the movie itself we have Dark Helmet playing with action figures, we never sold any."
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Reaper9988: Fair use does not have to have Jokes(Elaborate or not) nor does it need to be a parody, it's just a derivative work. If something is fair use or not has a lot of factors(In the US and Germany, I can't speak for Poland but I'm sure GoG has some Lawyers in this regard themselves).
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Breja: I'm not arguing the legality here, I'm just saying that it's a lazy, shameless rip-off that does nothing with what it steals that would, to me, justify it, even if it can legally get away with it.

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Reaper9988: Boobs are not a get free card, all of this has been done before, in fact I assume if there wasn't boobs in this game you wouldn't be so up in arms about the whole thing.
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Breja: I have as litle power of your assumptions. You're absolutely wrong in this case. In fact, I've recently seen trailers for another game (Starship SImulator) that rips-off Star Trek wholesale similarly to this one, only it's not porn, and I find it just to be almost as disgustingly lazy and shameless a rip-off as this. But hey, if you feel obliged to defend this "game" and deflecting my criticism by pointing out my general dislike for crappy plastic-doll graphic porn helps you sleep better - power to you.
Well true you haven't spoken specifically about legal issues, you alleged them though and then go on to say how Space Balls is fair use, the other isn't. So yeah you are trying the legal angle.
Other than the legality I have no interest in defending the game, looks bland to me but didn't play it so wouldn't know.

And well your track record shows that you have problems with most games including boobs, so I would call it an educated assumption. But as assumptions go, they can be wrong. No need to get defensive.
Post edited June 03, 2024 by Reaper9988
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Reaper9988: Well true you haven't spoken specifically about legal issues, you alleged them though and then go on to say how Space Balls is fair use, the other isn't. So yeah you are trying the legal angle.
Only I never said that "Space Balls is fair use, the other isn't". I was pointing out the creative difference between Space Balls and this, not a legal one.

Although yes, I do believe there should be some minimum creative input to make something "fair use" and this game in my opinion does not meet that criterium. But that's what I believe the law should be, not what I'm arguing it is.
Post edited June 03, 2024 by Breja
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Reaper9988: Well true you haven't spoken specifically about legal issues, you alleged them though and then go on to say how Space Balls is fair use, the other isn't. So yeah you are trying the legal angle.
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Breja: Only I never said that "Space Balls is fair use, the other isn't". I was pointing out the creative difference between Space Balls and this, not a legal one.
Hmmm ok if you say so.
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TheBigCore: If Stanley Kubrick were still around, I'd be curious as to his reaction.
You mean Arthur C. Clarke. Kubrick did not invent the title.
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TheBigCore: If Stanley Kubrick were still around, I'd be curious as to his reaction.
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MarkoH01: You mean Arthur C. Clarke. Kubrick did not invent the title.
In fact, Arthur C. Clarke's "2001: A Space Odyssey" book is based on Stanley Kubrick's and Arthur C. Clarke's film script, which was based on the book's draft, which was partially based on Clarke's "The Sentinel" novel - and the title was Kubrick's idea (in April 1965).
Post edited June 03, 2024 by Kerebron
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MarkoH01: You mean Arthur C. Clarke. Kubrick did not invent the title.
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Kerebron: In fact, Arthur C. Clarke's "2001: Space A Odyssey" book is based on Stanley Kubrick's and Arthur C. Clarke's film script, which was based on the book's draft, which was partially based on Clarke's "The Sentinel" novel - and the title was Kubrick's idea (in April 1965).
Thank you HAL - I really did not know that but always nice to know more about my favorite director :)
Oops. Wrong thread.
Post edited June 03, 2024 by mk47at
From the game description:
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GOG.com: (....)Discover a sexy species that "bonds" with the man who deflowers them, staying loyal and submissive to him for life...(....)
This description should go: "Discover a sexy species that "bonds" with the man who gives the first orgasm to them, staying loyal and submissive to him for life"....... It would fall under the logic of games I played so far... Like Hunie Pop and so : )