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Posted February 26, 2015
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Ciris: "Two games from our catalog had to be made unavailable in Germany: Commandos Ammo Pack and Commandos 2+3. Offering or promoting these games is considered a serious criminal offence according to German law,
But it seems like Commandos 2 & 3 weren't banned at all:

http://www.blood-is-red.de/mw/index.php/Liste_indizierter_Spiele
http://www.blood-is-red.de/mw/index.php/Liste_beschlagnahmter_Spiele
Post edited February 26, 2015 by zs0sz
Posted February 26, 2015
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hugo360pt: The old, awesome, GOG is long dead, the more they grow, the more they will become identical to Steam, because they need to have a bigger catalogue and all the new games available day one to appeal to the Steam audience and gain market share and this brings shortcomings like regional prices/locks, more rubbish DLCs and seasons passes, etc. (sometimes they will have to abide the law, others they will follow the market already implemented nonsenses instead of fighting for what is right, etc).

And it's a matter of time until they (probably) start selling huge quantities of shovel ware like Steam, since we already have broken games like Interstate '76, Vertical Drop Heroes(Halloween version), Omerta(until recently), etc and some in alpha stage/buggy like Dead State and Caribbean.
Regarding shovel ware and region-locked, language-locked* and censored crap: I'm basically done with PC games. They aren't worth it. Canceled all hardware upgrades last year already. This was the last nail in the coffin.

Now on the hunt for good old discs again, with no connections to any online "services".

*) Yes language locking exists on Steam. Nice thing, if you actually don't speak the language, they lock you to.
Posted February 26, 2015
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hugo360pt: Next time they will probably force us to use GOG Galaxy to download games because "the vast majority of our users already use GOG Galaxy and we feel like supporting downloads via website is not necessary anymore, oh! and have we already said it's faster and more convenient this way? Btw, here’s a freebie to you!"
And them BAM! DRM, because "the vast majority of our users is always online so it makes no difference if we use DRM or not and Good news!, this way you can have more games like 'Insert here titles that everyone wants but are only available with DRM' ".
C'mon, I know that it would suck for a few people like you, but if there's a choice between getting a game with DRM on GOG or not getting the game at all, would you rather we didn't sell it here at all, denying all those customers who don't care about DRM the chance to buy it, just because your own principles prevent you from doing the same? Isn't it better to make at least part of the customers happy and just let those DRM agnostics enjoy the games with online activation? /sarcasm
Posted February 26, 2015
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ShadowWulfe: What was the actual motivation for becoming available in German if it just screws over Germans...?
I think you answered your own question....
Posted February 26, 2015
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tinyE: Meanwhile, at Eidos Corporate Offices.
That is just BRILLIANT!

I wonder what a judge's reaction to a story set in 18th century Japan with a character proudly displaying a swastika would be.

Probably ban the shit out of it before it can corrup the poor innocent children.
Posted February 26, 2015
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tinyE: Meanwhile, at Eidos Corporate Offices.
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j0ekerr: That is just BRILLIANT!

I wonder what a judge's reaction to a story set in 18th century Japan with a character proudly displaying a swastika would be.

Probably ban the shit out of it before it can corrup the poor innocent children.
I still don't see the logic of Nazi Germany adopting a Hindu / Buddhist / Janist symbol.... It's meaning is very good, but still - not very nationalistic, is it?
Posted February 26, 2015
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j0ekerr: I wonder what a judge's reaction to a story set in 18th century Japan with a character proudly displaying a swastika would be.
I can tell you how the manga's German publisher reacted: http://www.schnittberichte.com/schnittbericht.php?ID=3189
Posted February 26, 2015
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j0ekerr: That is just BRILLIANT!

I wonder what a judge's reaction to a story set in 18th century Japan with a character proudly displaying a swastika would be.

Probably ban the shit out of it before it can corrup the poor innocent children.
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amok: I still don't see the logic of Nazi Germany adopting a Hindu / Buddhist / Janist symbol.... It's meaning is very good, but still - not very nationalistic, is it?
Same logic that went into Adolf Hitler stealing the Little Tramp's moustache.
Posted February 26, 2015
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Lifthrasil: Yes. How about leaving the responsibility for stating where one is to the customer? That would give the Australians the option of making a US account or whatever and buy the game if they want to. Sure, they'd be breaking the law in their country, but that would be their choice.
Why does GOG take the responsibility of policing the stupid censorship laws of Australia? Why do you use IP profiling at all? ... Sure, to enforce regional pricing. First that, now region locking. And region locking is already a form of DRM. This is a sad day!

Appeal to GOG: just put a disclaimer on the game, that people in Australia may not buy it, but don't block their IPs - stop making yourself enforcers of censorship!
This in spades.
Posted February 26, 2015
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j0ekerr: I wonder what a judge's reaction to a story set in 18th century Japan with a character proudly displaying a swastika would be.
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InfraSuperman: I can tell you how the manga's German publisher reacted: http://www.schnittberichte.com/schnittbericht.php?ID=3189
How about people stop banning the swastika altogether and just ban the fucking hakenkreuz? That way we can keep an ancient symbol of good fortune and lose its evil mirror-universe twin.

Otherwise you're going down the same road as that redneck who killed a Sikh here after the WTC attacks, because he thought everyone in a turban was a Muslim.
Posted February 26, 2015
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Lifthrasil: Yes. How about leaving the responsibility for stating where one is to the customer? That would give the Australians the option of making a US account or whatever and buy the game if they want to. Sure, they'd be breaking the law in their country, but that would be their choice.
Why does GOG take the responsibility of policing the stupid censorship laws of Australia? Why do you use IP profiling at all? ... Sure, to enforce regional pricing. First that, now region locking. And region locking is already a form of DRM. This is a sad day!

Appeal to GOG: just put a disclaimer on the game, that people in Australia may not buy it, but don't block their IPs - stop making yourself enforcers of censorship!
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ScotchMonkey: This in spades.
+1. This.
Posted February 26, 2015
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Leroux: C'mon, I know that it would suck for a few people like you, but if there's a choice between getting a game with DRM on GOG or not getting the game at all, would you rather we didn't sell it here at all, denying all those customers who don't care about DRM the chance to buy it, just because your own principles prevent you from doing the same? Isn't it better to make at least part of the customers happy and just let those DRM agnostics enjoy the games with online activation? /sarcasm
Ah, you're such a good sport!
Saved them the trouble spending an hour or so trying to figure out how to word this in truly Good News™ style. ;-)
Posted February 26, 2015
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InfraSuperman: I can tell you how the manga's German publisher reacted: http://www.schnittberichte.com/schnittbericht.php?ID=3189
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IAmSinistar: How about people stop banning the swastika altogether and just ban the fucking hakenkreuz? That way we can keep an ancient symbol of good fortune and lose its evil mirror-universe twin.

Otherwise you're going down the same road as that redneck who killed a Sikh here after the WTC attacks, because he thought everyone in a turban was a Muslim.
My mother (an antique dealer) has actually gotten shit for selling stuff from the 1800s and earlier that is adorned with swastikas. What really puzzles me is when they ask why we have 'Nazi memorabilia' in the shop and we tell them, "No this piece is from 1820 (or whenever)" and they proceed to ask again why we have 'Nazi memorabilia' in the shop. :P It boggles the fucking mind!
Posted February 26, 2015
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InfraSuperman: I can tell you how the manga's German publisher reacted: http://www.schnittberichte.com/schnittbericht.php?ID=3189
That just mutilates both the art and the character.

I thought that the whole thing with Neji Hyuga's forehead seal was moronic, but at least Naruto was aimed at young kids, I can see how they wanted to avoid the moral morons. In this case, I just facepalm.

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amok: I still don't see the logic of Nazi Germany adopting a Hindu / Buddhist / Janist symbol.... It's meaning is very good, but still - not very nationalistic, is it?
I'm guessing it was a design choice, probably from it symbolizing a mixture of the exotic and the familiar, the symbol was incredibly widespread worldwide, from ancient china to the celts.
Post edited February 26, 2015 by j0ekerr
Posted February 26, 2015
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IAmSinistar: How about people stop banning the swastika altogether and just ban the fucking hakenkreuz? That way we can keep an ancient symbol of good fortune and lose its evil mirror-universe twin.

Otherwise you're going down the same road as that redneck who killed a Sikh here after the WTC attacks, because he thought everyone in a turban was a Muslim.
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tinyE: My mother (an antique dealer) has actually gotten shit for selling stuff from the 1800s and earlier that is adorned with swastikas. What really puzzles me is when they ask why we have 'Nazi memorabilia' in the shop and we tell them, "No this piece is from 1820 (or whenever)" and they proceed to ask again why we have 'Nazi memorabilia' in the shop. :P It boggles the fucking mind!
Poor history teachers?
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