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escapist23: It just proves that I was right and I have been doing the right things by trying to avoid mindless entertainment. :)
Trolling could be considered mindless entertainment, too, you know? ;)
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escapist23: :)
The thing is, you don't care about games at all, you care about storytelling. And when it comes to matters of storytelling, nothing will top a good book.
A game cannot be judged based on its storytelling alone, it's much more than that. A game isn't made to just tell a story, that's not the point of the medium, it's made to give a particular experience to the player, an experience that can only be delivered through the video game medium. A game should be judged by what makes the medium unique and the other medium they incorporate. In other words, by their mechanics, by the underlying systems behind them and how they work together and also by the individual parts that comes to complete the experience (soundtrack, story, voice acting, cutscene cinematography, ect)
Minecraft is a masterpiece of a game, yet has no story, no character, no humor (don't know why that's a criteria to judge a story or game).
RocketLeague is another game that shines purely through its gameplay alone.
Take Divinity Original sin : certainly not a good story, but the coop experience, the combat mechanics and the freedom of choice the game provide vastly makes up for it and its other flaws and the game still deliver a memorable experience and is one of the best RPG of the last decade.

What makes a good game is not what makes a good book.

And on a non related note :
There's a big difference between what someone likes and what they should consider good. Personal preferences shouldn't hinder one's judgement of what is good and what is bad. I can hate something and still think it's good, because i can appreciate the quality of the work, what it brings to the medium, how intricately crafted everything is and how much of an impact the overall experience leaves on me.
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escapist23: As I have not read any capable and robust argument, I thereby conclude that most games are trash indeed,
You're right: most games are trash. But that's true of anything that's produced in massive quantities. It's true of books, movies, tv shows, and yes even music. The issue becomes what is considered 'trash', and not letting too much subjectivity or bias creep into that definition.
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escapist23: In about 18 years of occasionally playing videogames, but trying a LOT of them, I realized that most games are just rubbish and nonsense. I have always kept looking for the 'next' incredible game, and never found it. The only ones that stood the test of time, to me, are very few and far between, and this is probably true of your cases as well. Probably a couple of games out of accurately selected dozens based on apparently great reviews. Interestingly, I always read first the NEGATIVE reviews, and I am always surprised how insightful they are: they quickly tell me of all the things I don't want in a game, either, and all the glaring defects. Most of these reviews are written by choosy and difficult 'gamers' like me, which are to me the most useful reviews, as they imply a certain amount of experience.

There's just so many games, but almost none that are truly worth spending dozens of hours on. Tons of quantity, but very little quality. Most of them have nonsense stories, no humour, no sense of tragedy, dumb characters, NPCs without personality, chaotic and messy battles, a zillion worthless items, etc. The only mostly high quality constant in them, are the soundtracks. I must say, especially PC games, have the most amazing soundtracks I have heard. And the graphics in most of the 'best' modern games are very pretty. But that's where it all ends, for me.

End of the rant :)
Imo you sounds like one of those who focus too much on details that are considered "bad"/offputting in their media instead of just enjoying stuff for the fun of it. You should just turn the critical thinking down a notch when playing and you;d likely find more stuff fun to play. Just my two cents.
negativity begets more negativity, OP
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slamdunk: negativity begets more negativity, OP
NONSENSE!
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escapist23: ALL music is good, but it's very hard to find 'bad' music that is famous.
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Cadaver747: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDZX4ooRsWs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0
Gangnam is fun as fook to listen to, though.
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Mafwek: Do my eyes deceive me, or Gangam style actually has more than 3 billion views?
Alas,Gangnam Bibi Hendl Style has only 400,000 views, despite the touch of class that adding an accordion and yodeling adds to the original.
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Mafwek: Do my eyes deceive me, or Gangam style actually has more than 3 billion views?
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bler144: Alas,Gangnam Bibi Hendl Style has only 400,000 views, despite the touch of class that adding an accordion and yodeling adds to the original.
That sounds ok but I like the Hyuna version better for "reasons". ;D
Post edited May 29, 2019 by GameRager
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GameRager: Gangnam is fun as fook to listen to, though.
Yeah, and looking at big plastic butt shaking is also fun... for someone with, ahem, delicate taste.
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GameRager: Gangnam is fun as fook to listen to, though.
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Cadaver747: Yeah, and looking at big plastic butt shaking is also fun... for someone with, ahem, delicate taste.
True, I was trying to act more civilized and point out the one that wouldn't make me look like a perv for doing so....and you've bloody RUINED my attempt. o.0

(I am joshing with ya...i'm not upset and am merely having the good laughings)
Sturgeon's Law - “Ninety percent of everything is crud.”
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Speaking of objective opinions, what do people say at a Grateful Dead concert when they run out of drugs?

"Man, these guys suck!"
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tinyE: Speaking of objective opinions, what do people say at a Grateful Dead concert when they run out of drugs?

"Man, these guys suck!"
My answer to that is a t-shirt I saw once:

"Jerry's dead, Phish sucks, get a job"
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TARFU: Sturgeon's Law - “Ninety percent of everything is crud.”
What about that one statistic that many statistics are a bunch of nonsense? :\