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CymTyr: I do not agree with the idea of a death penalty for drug dealers, but I also do not agree that drug dealers should get away with peddling meth and heroin with impunity.

There has to be some sort of middle ground here, folks.
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DaCostaBR: It's called a prison sentence.
Prison sentences don't seem to do much here in the US, just ask any of the idiots currently hooked on meth and heroin, not to mention all the opiate painkillers.

The problem isn't the supply, despite what I posted previously. People nowadays do not value life - this is the reason for the heroin epidemic just as much as it's the reason for all the school shootings. People do not value life.

Until that changes, it doesn't matter what you do to the drug dealers, there will be replacements the next day.
ok so first his land destabilizes foreign countries so that warlords have easy play with the farmers who they pressure into producing opium which is sold back to usa, and now he believes the problem goes away by killing a few street dealers? classic.
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CymTyr: Prison sentences don't seem to do much here in the US
Maybe corporeal punishment would be a good idea...caning or flogging might be efficient.
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CymTyr: Prison sentences don't seem to do much here in the US
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morolf: Maybe corporeal punishment would be a good idea...caning or flogging might be efficient.
While I certainly appreciate your sarcasm, I believe you missed the point; which is that a great deal of people nowadays do not value life.
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CymTyr: While I certainly appreciate your sarcasm, I believe you missed the point; which is that a great deal of people nowadays do not value life.
Well they might learn to appreciate it after a sound caning. And that would certainly make more sense than locking them up with other criminals. Prisons are schools of crime after all.
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CymTyr: While I certainly appreciate your sarcasm, I believe you missed the point; which is that a great deal of people nowadays do not value life.
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morolf: Well they might learn to appreciate it after a sound caning. And that would certainly make more sense than locking them up with other criminals. Prisons are schools of crime after all.
Lol. Thanks for reminding me not to take myself too seriously. +1, sir.
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KoreaBeat: The US Supreme Court already held it to be unconstitutional to execute someone for a crime other than homicide or treason. So obviously this will go nowhere.
Trump will just find a way to make it into treason. Or to turn any ol' overdose into a murder. Might even succeed on the latter part.

Drug dealers who, unknowingly to their customers, cut their product with shit to make overdosing or even poisoning much more likely - those I'm fine with charging with murder.
Post edited March 17, 2018 by kalirion
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AlienMind: ok so first his land destabilizes foreign countries so that warlords have easy play with the farmers who they pressure into producing opium which is sold back to usa, and now he believes the problem goes away by killing a few street dealers? classic.
It should be clarified that a lot of the problem with opiates and similar drugs here in the US comes not from the illegal importation of actual opium, but from legal prescription drugs of the opioid class. And it's a big mess here, caused in part by drug companies pushing these drugs to doctors as miracle cures for pain, and so many doctors being behind the curve on pain management.
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Death for Drug Dealers sounds like a great idea. If only it would happen in the UK. I'm sick to death of living next to drug dealers, it has become standard practice here. But then again, left wingers would probably let them run free due to their human rights. The idiots that they are.
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darthspudius: Death for Drug Dealers sounds like a great idea. If only it would happen in the UK. I'm sick to death of living next to drug dealers,
No one made you move in next door to Buckingham Palace.
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Enebias: Trump has developed the fine art of missing the point, in everything.
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Fairfox: trump is teh sort of person taht constant lee insults appearance as a wai to 'get back' at somebody; teh most basic thang you learn (an' grow out of) as a kid before your brain is fully developed 'n' matures. taht an' spellin' :P (inb4 u)
His detractors are the same as well then calling him cheeto, orange, etc. and talking of brain development you should learn how to write legibly first.
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drmike: Then we told her how much it costs for a single inmate to serve a life sentence. (And then to be honest, we also showed her the average costs involved with a death sentence inmate. I made sure of that.)

She's no longer opposed.
Sorry to be suspicious of your story, but I just have hard time believing an anti-capital punishment activist changing their mind merely over the alleged costs.

That's like claiming that a PETA activist became a meat lover after you told her how cheap beef is in the local grocery store.

Note: I am not saying I am against capital punishment... but I am. Except if someone kicks my dog or scratches my car, those fuckers WILL die. Eventually. Of an old age.
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CymTyr: People do not value life.
Actually, people do value life, though what life is valued varies from person to person.

Liberals do truly value life, as a whole. In particular, they truly value the diversity of life, both human and otherwise.

Conservatives, however, tend to only value the lives of people who are not yet born; once a baby is born into the world, they are no longer valued by conservatives. Well, on second thought, they might value the lives of some people, but only if they fit in and are the right kind of people.

(Note: This post is US centric, and, of course, there are exceptions to every generalization one can make about people.)
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CymTyr: People do not value life.
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dtgreene: Actually, people do value life, though what life is valued varies from person to person.

Liberals do truly value life, as a whole. In particular, they truly value the diversity of life, both human and otherwise.

Conservatives, however, tend to only value the lives of people who are not yet born; once a baby is born into the world, they are no longer valued by conservatives. Well, on second thought, they might value the lives of some people, but only if they fit in and are the right kind of people.

(Note: This post is US centric, and, of course, there are exceptions to every generalization one can make about people.)
Liberals value lives of rapists, drug dealers and terrorists while they want to kill unborn babies. Conservatives value lives of unborn babies while they don't value lives of rapists, drug dealers and terrorists. /s

That's how one-sided your characterization of conservatives was, sis. I feel that such characterizations serve no purpose in a discussion and I apologize if the above statement is offensive.