Instead of looking at it like they cut "content" (which come on, these items mean nothing in the end) from you, you should be looking at it like they gave some extra to pre-orders / backers that you would have never gotten otherwise. These items could just be exclusive to backers, but they're also offering it to every who pre-orders the game.

Kingmaker also had backer rewards / pre-order bonuses that were exclusive, so why are you so upset about it now and calling the devs assholes? Despite that, you still say Kingmaker is awesome. Well, Wrath of the Righeous is gonna be awesome also, and if you're going to let a few insignificant items ruin that then I really feel sorry for you.

Truly I am sorry to hear about your personal situation and the problems with your country, but they are your problems. You know what? Most of the time I can't buy every little new toy I want either for various reasons, and I miss out on stuff I would have liked. That's life though, and part of being an adult.

Hopefully you'll get over it at some point, so you can have an awesome CRPG experience with Wrath of the Righteous just like you did with Kingmaker. Seems kind of silly to me to let something like this ruin it for you, but hey, do whatever you want to do.

And who would that be? Console players? People who are way beyond their rights to a refund?

There's zero risk in pre-ordering if you have a little self control and can just not start the game up and go past that two hour mark, or open it if you're a phyiscal console game buyer.

It doesn't surprise me that people (especially "gamers") have trouble with things so easy though.


Sorry to hear, but they must have decided it wasn't worth it, considering the number of users that actually ran Kingmaker on Linux. I mean, clearly if it was worth doing it they would have.

Have you ever considered just going with Windows? Windows 10 is a great operating system, and just a joy to use.

You have completely missed the point. I also do not need to prove anything to you. I realise you get some thrill from defending everything that GOG does, but I am afraid you are contributing more reasons to boycott them. Content is missing for those users who come in late, that is unacceptable at least for some people, so that is an issue. If gog does not address that then they have lost customers.

People who don't pre-order will most definitely be missing content.

And missing content is always a big deal and unacceptable.

If the items are as valueless and pointless as you assert them to be, then there should be no reason for the devs to use them as a coercion tool to try and pseudo-force people to pre-order the game.

And the idea that they are pointless and valueless is a subjective opinion.

Based on the outrage which this scandal has caused, it's very obvious that to many/most potential customers of this game, they don't find the pre-order-gated items to be pointless and valueless, and they also don't like being coerced into pre-ordering.

Thank goodness, the CRPG offering lately has been sparse to say the least.

Pre-order exclusives is basically a method to punish your customers for your own marketing shortcomings.

It's idiotic idea that takes psychological manipulation technique out of context and tries to put it in a situation where it doesn't work. Or more precisely even backfires. This is what happens when marketing people who have no deeper understanding of psychology and NLP, try to force things. Limited time offers work in mobile environment because these are already committed regular customers who know what they are getting into. Pre-order exclusives work the opposite way because there's no product yet. It keeps away future customers who feel (and rightly so) like they have missed out and can't catch up even if they would want to. This might boost the launch at first but will hurt the after market badly.

Another side effect of this, that many publishers & developers don't think of, is that it sorts out people with higher IQ for your disadvantage and guarantees that your customers are emotionally more unstable than average. Which in turn hurt you when it comes to customer feedback, bug reports and the sort.

Another reason why these kind of tactics work in mobile market is because mobile casual players have lower IQ in general. But if someone is making serious RPGs for hardcore gamers on PC market, then that's a formula to shoot yourself in the butt.

Is it coincidence that the actual game is going to be available only AFTER the 30 day mark? How would the refund work again for that?

So fkn* awesome !

She could wear a bunny ears but anyway this is a RPG I was waiting for, be waiting for... still waiting :D
https://items.gog.com/pathfinder_wrath_of_the_righteous/PF2__3_.webm
I can see Baldur`s Gate inspirations.

Playing first part
https://www.gog.com/game/pathfinder_kingmaker_explorer_edition
and it has a switch : real time with pause <-> turn based. That way everyone are happy.
It can be also played just for the outstanding music ♪

Thank You!
*freakin cool

What does GOG have to do with Pathfinder?

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If GOG is the issue and you just said you would have pre-ordered the game, so show us that Steam or EGS pre-order? Or do you have some issue with them also? [modded]

[modded] Doesn't matter when you pre-order the 30 day refund window starts when the product is actually released, and it works this way on ALL stores.

[please refrain from being offensive and unpleasant towards others - ponczo_]

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Pre-order bonuses, exclusive content, and whatever else is nothing new. If you failed to hear about a pre-order a whole month in advance it's your own fault. [modded]

No one is being coerced into pre-ordering. People who buy in on day one get a bonus, and people who wait get a bonus of getting a better version and it being cheaper.

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[please refrain from being offensive and unpleasant towards others - ponczo_]

to the developers:

[and to gog, also, for allowing at least the pre-order silliness]:

not a fan of:

a) no linux version of the game.
b) pre-order bonuses that are just gone, forever, once the game launches.

i very much like that they put animal people into this crpg, though. that's a thing [actual ALTERNATE races] that has been missing from many a modern game like this.

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re: the gone forever/pre-order nonsense:

please stop this. it naturally makes it so that i'm not interested in your game when you do this. [and it's clear from reading other responses in this thread that i'm not alone.]

re: the lack of linux:

if you'd been supporting the operating system in the past, then it's clear to me - at least - that you saw some value in having those customers. you're effectively losing customers by just not adding this in if you managed to add it into your last game.

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you just lost a sale from an interested party. congratulations.

you could do better than this. it's sad that you're not.

I just installed Prey. I certainly didn't pre-order it, it's been in the store for a while. Yet, it's telling me my pre-order bonus items are waiting for me in my office. It seems I didn't miss any content.

It's a bribe anyway. Offering a game for pre-order does not increase revenue. Usually people don't buy the game twice. So ask yourself, what's in it for the devs? Game projects never begin with a plan to sell it pre-order, so ask yourself, what changed?

It tells me they need to 'borrow' money (from future sales) to finish it. It tells me that the game is overdue and over budget. It tells me the devs are under pressure, content may be missing or broken or rushed, and I'm more likely to be disappointed.

GOG may make it sound exciting, like you're buying a 'front of the queue VIP experience'. But that's just marketing. Pre-Order = Desperately crowdfunding the final rushed stages of game development.

No. Any game that I am looking forward to buying (on full release), that is offered as pre-order, instantly gets removed from my buy list until well after release and all the 'released too soon' bugs are patched. This is exactly what happened with cyberjunk. I was looking forward to it, until they started pushing pre-order.

Caveat emptor, friends.

been burned too many times recently with over priced preorder hype

The pre-order exclusive, non obtainable later puts this one on the wishlist for when it will be at least 75%.

They are also saving a ton of money by not having to pay people to port it to Linux, which probably far outweighs the small % of people who won't buy because of that. You can be sure they've done their analyses on the subject and if it was worth it, they'd do it. A simple business decision IMO. They tried it in the past, expenditure > returns, no bueno.

Already did a form of pre-order from backing the game