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OneFiercePuppy: The two-power-adapter thing is confusing me. Is that one power supply for the video card and one for the rest of the system?
It's a more unique setup for sure, mostly due to heat and space management in the chassis. Anyway, one is 230W and the other is 180W. So, yes, the latter is for the GPU, and the other is for the rest.

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GR00T: Congrats on the new rig! Hope it works out well for you. Enjoy your gaming! :)
Thanks. Now... whether to buy Battlefield 1 or Overwatch. The choice is aggravating! #FirstWorldProblems ;)
Post edited October 29, 2016 by mistermumbles
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mistermumbles:
I dunno man, that looks like a pretty bad deal to me. The power supply units simply.... suck. the case is some weird "gaming" thing so good luck trying to switch them out or anythign else for that matter.

Still hope you'll have fun with it and that it'll last. Just try not to stick anything into those usb ports while gaming or the whole thing will probably melt down.
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mistermumbles: A while ago I've been looking at possibly building my own PC. So I guess I'm still not comfortable with the thought, and that's why I have been chewing on that for a bit longer while intermittently researching stuff elsewhere. I've looked at 'boutique' PC builders, but their sort of premium prices are a bit much. As of late though, I've been looking at pre-built options again, and there's one that's looking quite reasonable actually.

This newer Alienware Aurora model seems to be pretty much perfect for me. Interestingly enough, Best Buy for once makes good use of its namesake. At $1,500 that seems to be the cheapest price anywhere. Hell, when trying to configure a similar model on Dell's website it ran over an extra $300. I guess BB has some sort of distribution deal with them. The specs are:
- i7 6700 (3.4Ghz)
- 16GB DDR4 (unkown speed)
- 256 GB SSD system drive + 1 TB HDD storage drive (I'm thinking of adding another 512GB SSD myself)
- NVIDIA GTX 1070
- 460W PSU (appears to be the most basic model for the Aurora line)
A similar ASUS model (non-upgradable and no SSD storage) would cost me an extra $100. I also looked into reviews and the Aurora's configuration, and there seems to be the consensus that it's pretty damn decent for a pre-built PC.

Any thoughts?
That's an amazing PC set-up, and just because it's pre-built doesn't mean it can't be great. Dell and Alienware generally make good systems with reliable components.
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mistermumbles: - NVIDIA GTX 1070

Any thoughts?
Actually wasn't there suppose to be a new line of updated graphics cards that are suppose to be coming out, and thus older cards should probably go on discount?
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mistermumbles: *snip*
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aJillSandwich: That's an amazing PC set-up, and just because it's pre-built doesn't mean it can't be great. Dell and Alienware generally make good systems with reliable components.
That PSU is way underpowered for a system like that. It's not gonna hold.
No, it's not, assuming that's a good PSU and not one with just numbers written on it. It's a 100W CPU and 150W GPU (that's on heavy loads). The rest barely consume anything.
Post edited October 29, 2016 by OlivawR
I love how that motherboard has a lot of usb ports, Kind of wish they was all usb 3.0 and just 2 usb 2.0 for keyboard/mouse. but not bad to be honest and that includes windows 10 and I believe shitty keyboard and mouse.

Go for it it has the power to keep up with games for a long long while.

But just watch out for that psu overtime, Cause if it is those generic shitty brands it will die out in later years from overclocking parts and such. So I recommend getting a corsair to replace it in years time for cheap.
Post edited October 29, 2016 by UnrealQuakie
Crysis plays very well; it better, being a nine-year old game. All settings are cranked up to the max and the game runs buttery smooth with my PC breaking no sweat at all (1080P). Oh, and SOMA is pretty fucking cool. It might not have the fanciest graphics, but it makes up for it with a ton of atmosphere.

I guess I won't really be testing out my new comp's true capabilities until I play something newer and more demanding. I'm fairly sure I'll be picking up Witcher 3 (and one of these: Rise of the Tomb Raider, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, Dishonored 2) the next time its on sale. Still debating whether to pick up Battlefield 1 this weekend. I'm not super big on multiplayer most of the time, but I've always had fun with that series.
Post edited October 29, 2016 by mistermumbles
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mistermumbles: I swung by Best Buy earlier today and I picked up one of these.
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OneFiercePuppy: The two-power-adapter thing is confusing me. Is that one power supply for the video card and one for the rest of the system? The GTX 1070 is rated at about 150W, and the i7 lists a TDP of 65W, so the smaller of the two power supplies won'r run everything, and the larger only allows like 15W overhead for everything else. Your USB alone would eat that if it's running USB powered devices.

Man, I've really gotten old. These newfangled computers and their doohickey contraptions confuse me.
No, you're right. Assuming it's what I think (it probably is) it's not common. It's not actually new either. No one uses it because it's complicated, doesn't work well, has a high potential to cause damage to hardware, and is potentially dangerous. It's probably not especially dangerous on a pre-built, but everything else is still a given.

It's not recommended and extremely uncommon on retail computers (it is on some server units where they're built that way to increase/reduce power consumption when the load is markedly increased/decreased). I'd never build a personal computer for personal use that way. Besides the fact it's way too much work, it's really easy to mess up since you need risers and have to tie the grounds (there are adapters now e.g. Add2PSU), and if the user wasn't me (ok and me too) they would probably at minimum fry the motherboard and potentially electrocute themselves if they ever tried to upgrade the thing.

The particular PC is severely underpowered, too. You need 500w+ gold to run that card on a good PSU, recommended is 550w. The PC is (hopefully) just going to shut off whenever the GPU hits load or high ambient temps. I can't imagine the fan setup being any good at that size either.

I think it has 2x PSU because it uses one of those newer form factor cases the kids like where it's tough to fit stuff anywhere. Also it's cheaper. It looks like a micro-ATX to me judging from the keyboard size, but that's just hazarding a guess. Could be a mini-ITX. I doubt it though since it would look like a shoebox (otherwise it couldn't fit a full length card).

Admittedly, it's a neat looking case. It'll be difficult to upgrade though. Of that type, the bitfenix ones aren't bad, that's about it. They're not designed for gaming PC's, at least the non-APU variety (they actually work well for those btw).
Post edited October 30, 2016 by cioran
The specs of that Asus are really weird. I bet it has a U Intel processor.

@mistermumbles post a CPU-Z screen of your system.
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rtcvb32: Actually wasn't there suppose to be a new line of updated graphics cards that are suppose to be coming out, and thus older cards should probably go on discount?
Do you meant the Volta line or the Pascal refresh? If the former, it's looking like they won't drop for consumers until 2018. The latter is slated for 2017, but no word on exactly when, as far as I can find out.
This does not look like "PC" at all. It looks like an consol-ish proprietary x86-based computer.
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rtcvb32: Actually wasn't there suppose to be a new line of updated graphics cards that are suppose to be coming out, and thus older cards should probably go on discount?
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GR00T: Do you meant the Volta line or the Pascal refresh? If the former, it's looking like they won't drop for consumers until 2018. The latter is slated for 2017, but no word on exactly when, as far as I can find out.
Not sure, I just know back in Jan/Feb they were talking about the updates to hardware designs and how you should hold off because approx in July/August the prices would be vastly different for video cards, something like a fourth the price for the same power.
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OlivawR: The specs of that Asus are really weird. I bet it has a U Intel processor.

@mistermumbles post a CPU-Z screen of your system.
Nope. Looks like a regular old i7-6700 desktop chip. The CPU benchmark showed at 3.69Ghz.
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Benchmark it? Curious to see how my soon-to-be GTX 1070 laptop stacks up against a desktop version.