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ciemnogrodzianin: b) has been already solved, but still affects game's rating.
That's a big problem indeed. Valve tries to rectify it by making older reviews less important; but that caters to the specific wants of e.g. Early Access developers or AAA day one patchers so much that I don't really wish to see it reproduced here.

As is quite evident from e.g. metacritic, a 'metascore' calculated from individual reviews tells you nothing about the actual quality of a game. Usually, people trust in a select few from the gaming press with similar subjective tastes. That's the way reviews still work on GOG. The individual star rating is irrelevant, and identifying with the tastes of the reviewer is crucial.

But GOG still restricts the length of your review to a few tweets, and they still determine what review you see first based on a stupid up/downvote system. If the entire system isn't reformed, at least these things could be addressed.


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AFnord: Also, another reason to limit reviews to games people have on GOG would be to limit knee-jerk reaction reviews. This is more of a problem with modern games, but I've seen several cases of people giving negative reviews to games that they have no experience with, and where this lack of experience clearly shows. You get "intelligent" reviews like:

This is what Happens when you let Feminists into gaming Shit like this!
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AFnord: (one of the earliest Her Story reviews)
I'll say, that's what bothers me too. A lot. Review bombing much in this fashion has become popular particularly on hit-and-run review platforms like metacritic.

I feel that restricting reviews to confirmed customers would be a bit overkill though. Sometimes e.g. Steam Early Access players have valuable insights into the very game GOG gets months later. And, well, I did write a review to a game once that I hadn't played, on Amazon. Assassin's Creed. Because the copy protection Ubisoft leaped to was simply unacceptable. So I wouldn't even plainly state that non-players should under no circumstances write reviews about a game. In some cases, they should make their voices heard.

There may be no good solution for curbing the offhand 'didn't play 'cause girl stuff LOL' review. :|
Post edited January 23, 2017 by Vainamoinen
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Fairfox: Mah suggestion is to take teh Amazon approach, tie teh review system to your GOGie account but still let everyone be able to write one... Then add a 'Verified' an' Unverified' filter an' peeps can sort by those taht act. bought XYZ gamie on GOGie an those taht didn't/haven't yet.

Doesn't prevent legit. GOGie-owners reviewin' XYZ gamie poorly an' teh liek, but that could alwaaays happen, plusses mebbe moar tags could be applied for 'tech' stuffages, etc.
You're a "special" persona aren't you?
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amok: And, no, I disagree with "How they work today is way more important than how good the game itself is" - gameplay always trumps technical thingies. And so a review should also always reflect this.
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AFnord: I'm going to strongly disagree with you. If the technical issues are severe enough, they can easily ruin a game. Textures constantly flickering so that they hurt watching, constant crashes, the game eating save files, extremely long loading times and so on can ruin a game with stellar gameplay.

One solution to reviews being made obsolete due to patches & fixes would be to simply do what Steam does right now, show an all time and a recent review score. If there's a big difference between the two, it's likely because something has been fixed (or broken).
Yeah, the evolution to Steam reviews is pretty cool. A difference between the 2 rates can indicate if a game has been patched, if new content has fixed an empty game, or if new OS don't mix well with it. Then skimming the recent reviews will allow you to see what exactly waranted the change. And the fact that you can ask specifically for negative recent reviews will underline a technical problemthat still exists.

GOG reviews? The ones that gathered more votes (even negative ones) will appear before any new stuff. Which means tose new reviews will not be seen, and thus will never get the votes that would allow them to climb to the first pages.
So GOG reviews actively BURY the useful recent reviews behind pages and pages of old stuff :/
Post edited January 23, 2017 by Kardwill
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Fairfox: My suggestion is to take the Amazon approach, tie the review system to your GOG account but still let everyone be able to write one... then add a 'verified' and 'unverified' filter and peeps can sort by those that actually bought the game on GOG.
Agreed.

I don't even necessarily need the filter. If you encounter a review that's just horrendously negative or positive but doesn't have the 'verified' badge... you tend to know what's up. Basically one-star and five-star reviews without the badge demand a bit more precaution.


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Fairfox: plusses mebbe moar tags could be applied for 'tech' stuffages
One day, you'll have to make it a tad easier for us to peel the definitely worthwhile suggestions out of the kiddiespeak. Please? Not that I don't respect your personal posting flair. :)

So this would basically be a reviewer controlled tag system that allows filtering? Interesting suggestion. Tags could very specifically address certain mindsets of the reviewer. It could start at the "tech/bug review" level but could also extend to "nostalgia reviews" or even "basic flaw" reviews (i.e. flaws so blatant that you didn't even bother to buy and play the game; would be a catch-all for the odd "feminist agenda" stupidity review as well as legit reasons for shunning a certain game).
Post edited January 23, 2017 by Vainamoinen
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amok: And, no, I disagree with "How they work today is way more important than how good the game itself is" - gameplay always trumps technical thingies. And so a review should also always reflect this.
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AFnord: I'm going to strongly disagree with you. If the technical issues are severe enough, they can easily ruin a game. Textures constantly flickering so that they hurt watching, constant crashes, the game eating save files, extremely long loading times and so on can ruin a game with stellar gameplay.
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In all cases you mention above, it impacts on gameplay.... and gameplay is king....

However, in my opinion, a review should focus from that perspective, not a technical one.
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Fairfox: Mah suggestion is to take teh Amazon approach, tie teh review system to your GOGie account but still let everyone be able to write one... Then add a 'Verified' an' Unverified' filter an' peeps can sort by those taht act. bought XYZ gamie on GOGie an those taht didn't/haven't yet.
Except it could actually work if they implemented it here!

(I've written reviews on Amazon that don't show up as verified despite my memory, bank statement, and the site's own "YOU BOUGHT THIS ON [X DATE]" banner suggesting otherwise. Suppose I'm little salty about it since they pretty much hide the unverified ones now.)
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Dysantium:
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amrit9037: OK.
How about a little tour to game sub-forums?
this, though I forget to do this or too hyped and buy right away, thats when I find many threads with my tech complaints or bugs/glitches that I am having for the game on steam or gog game forums. i could have saved a lot of money/aggravation/disappointment if I gone into forums first
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AFnord: I'm going to strongly disagree with you. If the technical issues are severe enough, they can easily ruin a game. Textures constantly flickering so that they hurt watching, constant crashes, the game eating save files, extremely long loading times and so on can ruin a game with stellar gameplay.
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amok: In all cases you mention above, it impacts on gameplay.... and gameplay is king....

However, in my opinion, a review should focus from that perspective, not a technical one.
Well, then more or less any technical issues will impact gameplay. From being mildly inconvenient (memory leaks forcing you to restart from time to time, or some stuttering during certain portions of the game) up to "impossible to play" (game crashes on startup). How much these things impact gameplay, well, that's going to depend a lot on the game or the person playing the game.

And I don't think gameplay is the most important part in every game. Sometimes story trumps gameplay (Planescape Torment, Syberia, The Walking dead and so on). Heck, sometimes even graphics trumps gameplay (like the beautiful Tormentum: Dark Sorrow

And because different people value different things, that's why it's important to not just focus on one thing or another, but rather have all of these things represented. You might not find technical issues to be a big deal, but someone else might. Someone else might want to know if the story is good, because that's what they value.
People actually read the reviews here? :P
Who are you to tell me what I can review and what not? Here, I'll review two games I haven't played:

The Dwarves:

Awful, just awful.

Rad Rodgers: World One:

Even awfuller.
I actually think exactly the opposite. There should be an other section for people who complain about technical problems. I dont want to see nor care if the game does not work on your system. I just want to see if the game is actually good when it works.
Well a review is a review. There are certain rules to follow when it is supposed to be useful for others.
It's simple to moderate those reviews using those rules. If GOG would deem the review section important they would. Just like others.
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Post edited January 23, 2017 by Fairfox