Posted February 19, 2018
drmike
Why yes, I am a Major General
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Elvis is Dead
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Posted February 19, 2018
BlueMooner
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Posted February 19, 2018
Wow, you have eight arms?! Y'know, there's a lot we could... do. Feel like coming over toni... waitaminute. Whaddyou mean you have eight arms!? You are CLEARLY a smurf!! So which is it BLER... if that's even your real name... are you a smurf, or an eight-armed sex machine? How DARE you get me all hot and bothered and lead me on because I fantasized about you when you never even said the slightest sexual thing. The nerve! And a liar to boot!
It's sad how you can't even trust fellow blues online. Makes me blue. Well, bluer. Well, bler... wait, am i Bler?
There are text games that do. They're sex games obviously. Look up Corruption of Champions (fantasy) or Trials in Tainted Space (sci-fi).
It's sad how you can't even trust fellow blues online. Makes me blue. Well, bluer. Well, bler... wait, am i Bler?
There are text games that do. They're sex games obviously. Look up Corruption of Champions (fantasy) or Trials in Tainted Space (sci-fi).
Post edited February 19, 2018 by BlueMooner
drmike
Why yes, I am a Major General
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Posted February 19, 2018
paladin181
Ghost of GOG, writing wrongs at every turn
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Posted February 19, 2018
BlueMooner: Wow, you have eight arms?! Y'know, there's a lot we could... do. Feel like coming over toni... waitaminute. Whaddyou mean you have eight arms!? You are CLEARLY a smurf!! So which is it BLER... if that's even your real name... are you a smurf, or an eight-armed sex machine? How DARE you get me all hot and bothered and lead me on because I fantasized about you when you never even said the slightest sexual thing. The nerve! And a liar to boot!
It's sad how you can't even trust fellow blues online. Makes me blue. Well, bluer. Well, bler... wait, am i Bler?
Clearly a human.It's sad how you can't even trust fellow blues online. Makes me blue. Well, bluer. Well, bler... wait, am i Bler?
kohlrak
One Sooty Birb - Available on DLsite.com, not
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Posted February 20, 2018
kohlrak: Hormones ultimately make up the majority of our differences, which can be acted away when the physical differences are hidden. The violence and rape statistics show that suppressing hormone driven behavior is relatively easy, too.
dtgreene: In some cases, it could be whether the person't hormones align with the brain. Give a cisgender person cross-sex hormones (see Alan Turing and David Reimer for examples of this happening), and the result can easily lead to depression and suicide. Withholding such hormones from a transgender person has a similar effect as well. It's also worth noting that it is common for transgender people to take hormones corresponding to their gender identity; this, aside from the mental effects, will cause them to be physically more like that gender, including such things like physical strength, breast growth, facial hair, and voice dropping. (Obviously, not all for the same people.)
Women appearing as men is harder, but i've seen this in person (seems to me that this is far more common in my area among females than males, which doesn't surprise me given the large amount of women here on birth control and who naturally have PCOS). There seems to be one attribute they have a hard time hiding, but since they're trying to appear masculine more than male (they are usually bi or lesbian), i don't really think they had any inclination to hide that attribute. I am incredibly curious how one would manage to pull that off, though.
Post edited February 20, 2018 by kohlrak
dtgreene
vaccines work she/her
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Posted February 20, 2018
low rated
kohlrak: And, if i'm such an individual (it's hard to know for sure, since I was raised with joint custody), I can assure you that the signs of depression I have (which have largely developed recently) were also environmental and social, rather than a mismatch with my brain and hormones.
There isn't just one cause of depression, and your depression might be a combination of factors. There are medicines that can treat depression, but it turns out that the medicines needed are different for each person; what works for one person might not work (or even be harmful) for another.
kohlrak: Women appearing as men is harder, but i've seen this in person (seems to me that this is far more common in my area among females than males, which doesn't surprise me given the large amount of women here on birth control and who naturally have PCOS). There seems to be one attribute they have a hard time hiding, but since they're trying to appear masculine more than male (they are usually bi or lesbian), i don't really think they had any inclination to hide that attribute. I am incredibly curious how one would manage to pull that off, though.
You'd be surprised at how powerful hormones are. A person who is assigned female at birth, but who takes testosterone, will indeed develop male characteristics, including facial hair and a deep voice. Of course, genetics still plays a role in terms of things like how much facial hair he* develops. * Using a male pronoun here because such a person is most likely a transgender man, and would likely go by male pronouns.
Post edited February 20, 2018 by dtgreene
kohlrak
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Posted February 20, 2018
kohlrak: And, if i'm such an individual (it's hard to know for sure, since I was raised with joint custody), I can assure you that the signs of depression I have (which have largely developed recently) were also environmental and social, rather than a mismatch with my brain and hormones.
dtgreene: There isn't just one cause of depression, and your depression might be a combination of factors. There are medicines that can treat depression, but it turns out that the medicines needed are different for each person; what works for one person might not work (or even be harmful) for another.
kohlrak: Women appearing as men is harder, but i've seen this in person (seems to me that this is far more common in my area among females than males, which doesn't surprise me given the large amount of women here on birth control and who naturally have PCOS). There seems to be one attribute they have a hard time hiding, but since they're trying to appear masculine more than male (they are usually bi or lesbian), i don't really think they had any inclination to hide that attribute. I am incredibly curious how one would manage to pull that off, though.
You'd be surprised at how powerful hormones are. A person who is assigned female at birth, but who takes testosterone, will indeed develop male characteristics, including facial hair and a deep voice. Of course, genetics still plays a role in terms of things like how much facial hair he* develops. * Using a male pronoun here because such a person is most likely a transgender man, and would likely go by male pronouns.
bler144
μαϊμού
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Posted February 20, 2018
paladin181: I think the point here is it's far easier and more comfortable to suspend disbelief for things that are way out of whack. This gets into the uncanny valley though. The space between "totally coudn't ever be real" and "it's totally real". There's an area there that's close enough to reality, but just a little off, and your brain doesn't know how to handle it. This is close to that, and the reaction isfrom your brain's confusion on how to handle it. Is it fiction that we can dismiss as totally fun, but not real, or is it reality with real risks and such.
It's like playing a VR game that makes you jump off a building. That can be too much for many people. Some people can separate it out as fiction and woudn't hesitate to jump. Most though have a hesitation as they have to remind themselves it's not real.
I would have to disagree, respectful-like and all - I just don't think that's the right application of the term/concept of 'uncanny valley' esp. given that other populations would not have the same reaction you describe, and you aren't having the same reaction to other characters where you are not viewing them as being across gender. It's like playing a VR game that makes you jump off a building. That can be too much for many people. Some people can separate it out as fiction and woudn't hesitate to jump. Most though have a hesitation as they have to remind themselves it's not real.
Likewise, you presumably don't have that reaction when playing a game like perhaps LA Noire, where you're playing a real human, on earth, in a more or less real-to-life set of challenges, whether or not you specifically are a cop.
Personally I perceive it as just an unwillingness to relate from years of observation of how people respond to the question.
BlueMooner: It's sad how you can't even trust fellow blues online. Makes me blue. Well, bluer. Well, bler... wait, am i Bler?
Bleeeeermoooon I saw me standing alone
with lots of blue in my avatar
without a thread of my own
Something like that.
Post edited February 20, 2018 by bler144
Gede
GNU/Linux user
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Posted February 21, 2018
CymTyr: I still don't get why women aren't considered equal, in things other than physical strength. Maybe I just answered my own question, though... : /
But women aren't equal to men! We are biologically different. Women can give birth, for instance. Even within the same gender people are different. Forcing equal treatment of everyone to me means either levelling down (e.g. "carry your own wheelchair up the stairs") or an unjustifiable waste of resources (e.g. men having maternity leaves and going to the gynaecologist).
I see gender discrimination as part of the broader problem of lack of empathy, respect and consideration for other people.
Elvis is Dead
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Posted February 21, 2018
CymTyr: I still don't get why women aren't considered equal, in things other than physical strength. Maybe I just answered my own question, though... : /
Gede: But women aren't equal to men! We are biologically different. Women can give birth, for instance. Even within the same gender people are different. Forcing equal treatment of everyone to me means either levelling down (e.g. "carry your own wheelchair up the stairs") or an unjustifiable waste of resources (e.g. men having maternity leaves and going to the gynaecologist).
I see gender discrimination as part of the broader problem of lack of empathy, respect and consideration for other people.
Gede
GNU/Linux user
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Posted February 21, 2018
Gede: But women aren't equal to men! We are biologically different. Women can give birth, for instance.
Even within the same gender people are different. Forcing equal treatment of everyone to me means either levelling down (e.g. "carry your own wheelchair up the stairs") or an unjustifiable waste of resources (e.g. men having maternity leaves and going to the gynaecologist).
I see gender discrimination as part of the broader problem of lack of empathy, respect and consideration for other people.
tinyE: different doesn't mean unequal Even within the same gender people are different. Forcing equal treatment of everyone to me means either levelling down (e.g. "carry your own wheelchair up the stairs") or an unjustifiable waste of resources (e.g. men having maternity leaves and going to the gynaecologist).
I see gender discrimination as part of the broader problem of lack of empathy, respect and consideration for other people.
I admit that in some contexts those words can have particular nuances in English that I did not take into proper consideration. As the slogan goes: "we are all different but we are all equals".
amok
FREEEEDOOOM!!!!
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Posted February 21, 2018
and some are more equal then others
Elvis is Dead
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LevityInGaming
Just because we disagree doesnt mean I hate you.
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Posted February 21, 2018
CymTyr: I still don't get why women aren't considered equal, in things other than physical strength. Maybe I just answered my own question, though... : /
Gede: But women aren't equal to men! We are biologically different. Women can give birth, for instance. Even within the same gender people are different. Forcing equal treatment of everyone to me means either levelling down (e.g. "carry your own wheelchair up the stairs") or an unjustifiable waste of resources (e.g. men having maternity leaves and going to the gynaecologist).
I see gender discrimination as part of the broader problem of lack of empathy, respect and consideration for other people.
I have an extremely logical mind on a good day, where my sister might be one of the most empathic people you'd meet. Equal, good in different respects. You get what I'm selling?