That's kind of an absurd complaint; the isometric view is precisely one of POE's appeals and selling points. If you don't like games with isometric view, POE was not made for you. I can't think of any game available on GOG that's like POE in a fully 3D free camera world with better graphics, could you give an example? Games like Divinity 2 are fully real-time and action-oriented, the Witcher lacks party management as you only play one character, and the graphics and camera control of the two Neverwinter Nights games aren't really all that great. Not to mention that graphics aren't the most important thing that people care about in CRPGs ...

The answer is of course: PoE is worth a lot more, but not for everyone. The current state of the games market allows people to be extreme cheapskates.

Wrong question, especially in a community that appreciates old games. ;) You can always find a game that keeps you happy and busy for longer and for less money (Neverwinter Nights 1&2, Forgotten Realms Unlimited Adventures, Fight the Dragon, Minecraft, TES: Oblivion, or even several Humble bundles worth of games etc.). That doesn't mean POE is not worth the asking price though.

So is Sunless Sea, what's your point.

still waiting for an enhanced edition with full voice acting to come out.

i do not think the game is overpriced at all. from the bits that i have seen this looks like a great game with a great story.
also the argument made by AnimalMother117
as for the argument that the game is a year old, well, I've seen some older titles from certain publishers who shall remain nameless *rhymes with Mee May* with prices that would make anyone weep. that's on top of the drm and arguably less interesting story
and lets not forget Linux support

TW2 was free.

Yup. Dota 2 is free. Beats any paid game.

You both think that game value is related to time vs money. But you're also arguing against yourselves that your investments were shameful because free to play games have infinite cost to time played ratios. So money to time enjoyed is not even a factor when you're already claiming you spent more money than the better options for that proposition. It's just a self defeated case out of the gate since the fact that you spend money on games at all is anomalous to your ideologies.

So if money to time/enjoyment is not a factor and you'll spend as much money as you want on what you perceive to be a fair entertainment proposition (in your cases containing games that are only subjectively fun and not enjoyed by the entirety of the gaming community), then how does that put this sale on PoE to shame?

No, you just didn't expect there to be any point to it. I wouldn't waste time asking for people to list their favorites. ;P

We buy games we think will be fun and have no valid reasons to accept the prices as true other than that we make ourselves believe this is the going rate for this shiny object that we want to want. Simple as that. And none of it puts PoE at 50% off to shame. There is no justification of putting any purchase over another one. My point is just for people to bitch less, stop rationalizing, and accept that paying anything for games is completely irrational with so many fun free ones out there. We'll buy the games anyway though because that's what we want to do and better judgement isn't strong enough to stop us. :D

There's an enhanced version coming up? I thought 3.0 was the last. Any sources to confirm that?

Yup, for this kind of game (party-based RPG), I'd rather have that kind of hand-drawn nice graphics than some clumsy overpriced 3D.

And the game has been thought out this way, too. I don't remember that there was stuff (merchant, door, chest, etc...) hidden "behind" the decor. Maybe some enemies behind some trees during a few fights, but nothing problematic. Every interactive thing was easily found onscreen. If it was 3D, you would have to turn the camera to see stuff near the "walls", which can be bothersome after a while.

a) Name a free game which is a viable alternative to Pillars of Eternity
b) Every hour of my time is extremely valuable and has fairly high price tag attached to it. By reading coverage, getting opinions and, at the end of the day, paying money for quality, I can (to an extent) make sure that those hours I have spent playing a game are spent better than experimenting with free games. In free2play multiplayer games that I actually enjoy, I even paid money to speed up my progress - for one because I support development of something I enjoy, but more importantly, because I end up spending a lot less in terms of time than I spent in terms of money.

Don't, it's not going to happen.

Part of the reason invoking it is cheating (it was also on a 85% off promo recently).

Pillars of Eternity is supposed to be a modern financially sustainable for-profit project. Comparing it to old games and noncommercial games is cheating.

Since the principal question is whether PoE is overpriced and the secondary >implied question is whether more fun could be had with modern GOG releases on the same budget (PoE's US price, 50% off), free games fall on both sides of the scale. The for-profit-ness of TW2's deep discounts on GOG is debatable.

Finally, TW2 was the first game of the indie/day-1 era on GOG; it took like two years to really start (the first day-1 was Legend of Grimrock in April '12, TW2 was released in May '11). So while it is of course fun, it doesn't make for a fair comparison.

Cheap brain has spoken.

Joking?

Path of Exile maybe? Crpgs aren't particularly something people go out of their way to make pro bono.

You get the point though. There is a price on production values but what qualifies as that to people is all personal preference. I was arguing that PoE is worth the price they're charging for it even if you can get Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 for less. As long as there are people that agree they can continue making more content for it and keep their userbase happy. :)

I see what you mean. Just the people who are interested should be convinced and the pricing + reviews + impressions should be enough to do that on their own. I don't think it's fair to flatten every newish game to the level of a humble bundle BTA tier. If everyone started trading this wouldn't be a problem though because then even new games would be free for everyone with enough time saving up and that type of economy helps the devs/pubs stay afloat more easily in my opinion.

Haven't played path of exile much but its not a party based RPG right? It's more like an action RPG.