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As _Slaugh_ said use malware bytes and superanti spyware, both free version is good enough to keep you computer clean and nod32 is a good anitvirus and also use adblock, good luck to you

hi

Good to know, thanks! I definitely am not tech-savvy enough any more to know much about this. All I know is that I run it after I visit web pages and have only ever had but 2 viruses detected by MSE and never actually got any viruses in about 15 years and my computer runs smooooothly. Thanks for all the input! As usual, you are a fountain of information and it is great to see!

About antivir software, I think they do more harm than good, so I don't use any. But MSE is the shit, as you can find online. My least hated is avira.
I would also advise to install addons like noscript into your browser.

I used it before the one I posted above, and it was good too. I find the one I currently use less "bumpy" though. Totally subjective, so I recommend you search some ranking and narrow it down to your preferences.

TinyE is too good a guy for being offensive and is not that annoying. You should look more forums to look what a real troll / asshole is.

I have very rarely seen tinyE being offensive. Usually it's thin skinned individuals taking offence to something not particularly offensive.

Sorry to derail the thread, but I feel inclined to address these things and the thread is basically done with the OPs topics. Obviously neither of you saw my firsts posts on this forum and the ensuing shit between TinyE and I. Lucky you! I had never even been a lurker, I simply was bored one day and really wanting to talk about Arcanum with someone/anyone and so made my way to the forums in which I viewed some general topics of discussion because I figured I'd poke around. I entered some random thread that looked appealing and what do I see? TinyE making some (what I saw to be) ignorant and racist comment. He's frequently the first/one of the first to say something in a thread and it is frequently stupid/asinine/trollish/taunting, and as a newcomer, that was my first impression of these forums. How do you honestly feel about him being people's first impressions on these forums? I think it's rather awful. And if anyone is remotely like me (and I'm quite sure there are), he drove them away from the forums, didn't make them feel as welcomed as (I think) the general community would like, or at least made them question their involvement and likely reduced any back-and-forth they might have participated in with others. I can't be the only one this happened to, and in fact, I know I am not.

To elaborate more on the furthering issues of it all. Just as I do with anyone who says something I take issue with, I tried to address it with him, I even took it to PM quite readily, which he blocked and took it all back to the thread where it originated, lying about what I said in PM, trying to make me look like the asshole and generally derailing it and being quite a huge ass to me telling me to "back off, he's a regular and EVERYONE knows he means no harm and if I were a regular I'd know too and shit on me for not knowing and for not being a regular and how stupid I am for having my views etc., etc., etc.,"- pretty much all the things someone I consider to be an asshole would say to a stranger who doesn't know them who confronted them about something they said, pretty much excusing their own behavior by saying "other people think I'm okay, you suck for not also thinking I am" rather than talking like a mature adult about our differing views.

I guarantee you, there are people who hold my view of him, I understand you are okay with his behavior, please understand that I am not. This doesn't make me "thin-skinned", and I'm not easily offended AT ALL, what is most offensive is how, when I found something offensive and tried to address it in a calm and thought-filled way simply trying to work out our differences, we weren't able to make one step in any positive direction because he was a defensive asshole and it quickly became a shit-flinging fest which I quickly abandoned.

It was some time before I came back to the forums and I had to give myself a pep-talk of "don't engage with the stupids." I understand not all feel that way. Understand others do feel that way and reflect upon it, please.

I've been awake for nights on end barely getting any sleep because I'm nursing a sick ferret and so my thoughts aren't well organized and I didn't proof-read and I have to go tend him now so I am going to just leave it like this and you can all have it as is, forgive if I'm not as tactful or whatever as I could have been. I'm really done talking about all this crap and don't care to have back and forth about it, if there is something pressing you feel the need to address with me, send me a message and we'll work on it there.

I'd like to know what the racist comment was.

In fact I dare you to back up one thing you just posted with an actual example. If you can I will be more than happy to apologize and do whatever I can to make amends for such comments, short of leaving the forum.

And I remember blocking you. I did it because you were being an asshole. :P

Why do you interrupt threads? Why don't you keep to the subject being discussed?

It doesn't but you started it first not him/her.

Indeed. Sachys and sausage was going for months. ;-)

that doesnt sound dubious at all
because thats how this forum works
thread will get derailed either you roll with it or not

and if you dont you generally wont be happy here because threads will get derailled and not just by tinyP there

Oh I seriously doubt at any time he was referring to ground up meat packed into an animal casing. :P

Thank you for that list, Slaugh! Is the Kaspersky free for non-Kaspersky users?

I had to disinfect a friend's system not too long ago. What worked for me was:

Norton Power Eraser - but be careful as this may be somewhat aggressive. It may have quarantined my friend's previous antivirus, but I'm not certain as I don't think her antivirus was working to begin with. Also, this comes with an UNDO feature should you feel it did more bad than good.

Other tools of use:

Avira Rescue CD is updated frequently with antivirus definitions, so no need to have to download definitions from the infected computer. This one froze up on me the last time I used it, unfortunately.

BitDefender Rescue CD is another one with some extra tools, but is a bootable CD into a Linux GUI. I'm not going to link this one because I had issues of it asking for username and password which some systems end up getting. It was slightly more difficult finding the right commands for this... something like "livecd" Knoppix thing. (I left my notes on the friend's computer.) If you are interested, I could find it. Once I did get it running, it seemed like a viable tool.

Lastly, Emsisoft Emergency Kit is a portable but NON-bootable antivirus app.

All of these are free to use for non-business use.

you have a way with words ;p