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https://steamcommunity.com/games/Pathfinder_Kingmaker/announcements/detail/1715242454869034987

Who will back this out?

Your expectations and wishes for the sequel?
Will back it i guess (with Kingmaker still being part of my backlog)
I'll probably back this one too. The first one was incredible despite the off-putting time limit and half-assed management sim.
I had promised to never back a game again after recent fiascos and i'm happy i avoided those offenders but i feel i can trust Owlcat and they know not to release a game prematurely this time and polish (Polish as in cleaning up bugs not the language) it up.

My expectations: No base building and turn based because everything and i mean everything is superior or would be if they only was turn based and that includes RPG's, Strategy, FPS, Adventure, GOG store, movies, real life etc.

If only Witcher 3 was turn based....
Post edited January 14, 2020 by ChrisGamer300
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paladin181: I'll probably back this one too. The first one was incredible despite the off-putting time limit and half-assed management sim.
Some people say that they did not enjoy having a time limit, but in practice they were not bothered by it, that it was a very generous one. Was that your experience (I have not played the game, so, trying to get an idea).
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paladin181: I'll probably back this one too. The first one was incredible despite the off-putting time limit and half-assed management sim.
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Carradice: Some people say that they did not enjoy having a time limit, but in practice they were not bothered by it, that it was a very generous one. Was that your experience (I have not played the game, so, trying to get an idea).
It's pretty generous, yes. Just knowing it was there and that it was ticking away really irked me, is all.
Do they really need another Kickstarter?
Did they not make enough profit?
Are we just venture capitalists for our games now lol. I guess they DID deliver. It just feels weird seeing a second Kickstarter. Is like barely sustainable for them.
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Carradice: Some people say that they did not enjoy having a time limit, but in practice they were not bothered by it, that it was a very generous one. Was that your experience (I have not played the game, so, trying to get an idea).
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paladin181: It's pretty generous, yes. Just knowing it was there and that it was ticking away really irked me, is all.
This is good to know, thanks.
Slightly related: What about Pillars of Eternity 3? Too bad that Jeff Vogel's prophesy for the eventual sequel (made in 2017, before Pillars of Eternity 2 was released) became true: that good sales for Pillars of Eternity (since there is demand for Western RPG) did not mean that the sequel would be successful at all. He pointed out some aspects that could have made the game, great as it is, a bit more approachable.

Apparently, the Definitive Edition of Pillars of Eternity 2 is soon to be published. It would be a good chance for jumping on that wagon, for those who still did not.

It would be great if, in their effort to improve the sales, they do not nix what made Pillasr of Eternity special.

Still busy with Pillars of Eternity here, so, no idea about how PIllars of Eternity 2 came out. Before playing and reading the lore of Pillars of Eternity, the maritime environment did not look so exciting, but now, knowing more about this great, wide world, well, it is begging for some exploration. So, yes, this player is sold on it and will be getting the Definitive Edition, hopefully.
Post edited January 15, 2020 by Carradice
I think the reason Kingmaker sold better than PoE2 is that PoE2 took too many liberties and went too far from traditional D&D (both in terms of the setting and the mechanics), while Kingmaker was very close to D&D (using the modified 3.5 ruleset etc) which attracted CRPG grognards who felt a bit alienated by the streamlined approach of Josh Sawyer's school of design.

I mean, not many people seem to mention that Pillars of Eternity is NOT medieval high fantasy, it's actually more of a pseudo-scientific Renaissance with gunpowder setting.
Post edited January 15, 2020 by Crosmando
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Carradice: Apparently, the Definitive Edition of Pillars of Eternity 2 is soon to be published. It would be a good chance for jumping on that wagon, for those who still did not.
What do you mean Definitive Edition? Is the Obsidian Edition missing something?
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paladin181: I'll probably back this one too. The first one was incredible despite the off-putting time limit and half-assed management sim.
Wait a minute, weren't you commenting few weeks ago that you were irked by time limit of the first chapter and because of that you never went far in the game? How did you manage to finish this thing in couple of weeks?
This is gonna be hard to resist, we need more of these games.
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ChrisGamer300: polish (Polish as in cleaning up bugs not the language) it up.
I think that everyone should be able to tell from the context that you do not mean the language of the poles (Poles as in people from Poland, not wooden sticks nor magnetic/planetary poles)

:P
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ChrisGamer300: polish (Polish as in cleaning up bugs not the language) it up.
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idbeholdME: I think that everyone should be able to tell from the context that you do not mean the language of the poles (Poles as in people from Poland, not wooden sticks nor magnetic/planetary poles)

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People should be able to tell the difference but many can not if you can believe it ! i have done that mistake several times before so i just put it there to cover any eventual misunderstanding.
Post edited January 15, 2020 by ChrisGamer300