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As long as it gets here (soon-ish), I don't mind waiting since I prefer GOG these days.
Post edited October 18, 2020 by blueGretsch
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joppo: The wait for a Gog release it is, then.
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DedIago: off the wishlist it goes, then.
I really wanted to play this game. I was not sure if it will appear on GOG since many Russian devs tend to stick to their beloved Steam, and I was very happy when it was announced to release on GOG. I was willing to buy this on release.
and now they basically say 'fuck you 'coz you ARRR a filthy pirate'. likewise, dear devpub. likewise. enjoy your Steam sales and your DRM over DRM over DRM.
and thanks for the heads-up anyway.
I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. If it's just a delay but it still comes DRM-free they get my money (sooner or later), otherwise they don't. It's unfortunate that you were denied playing it now but it's better than them releasing it DRMed
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JaqFrost: Sure. https://steamcommunity.com/app/1227530/discussions/0/4835136555190032029/ Nothing at all to do with online validation.
DRM is bad. "I don't know what to tell you", lol, it sounds very italian - we say that a lot.
And by the way, when are we getting the missing German voiceovers of German Deadalic games, that are on Steam? Memoria and the Dark Eye: Chains of Satinav.
Post edited October 20, 2020 by Dogmaus
Wow. Looks like even mentioning the DRM gets you a permanent community forum ban on Steam... No reason given, no warning and they don't reply to messages.

Thought it was a mistake as it seemed rather heavy handed but seeing now that the other guy merely asking for technical support got his thread locked... I guess that's just how they moderate. I'd hate to see what they do to people breaching actual rules. *shivers*
Post edited October 20, 2020 by lukaself
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joppo: but it's better than them releasing it DRMed
but that's what they already did! they released it DRMed. they released it even more DRMed than your usual Steam release, according to user posts provided by lukaself here. they postponed DRM-free release (of course it will come here, but I'll bet on later rather than sooner) that was aleady promised.
if they did not bother to promote game here at all and simply released it a year or two later, I would probably not have said a bad word, because that's what we GOGlodytes got used to.
but in this case they are showing not the usual indifference, but... um... disrespect, for the lack of more suitable word.
and now GOG release after skimming the cream off will only confirm status of GOG users as 'second-class citizens', as Fronzelneekburm called it.

well, maybe it wouldn't be that bad if DRM-free release still come here at least in 2020. but I highly doubt it, to be honest.
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DedIago: Well, maybe it wouldn't be that bad if DRM-free release still come here at least in 2020. but I highly doubt it, to be honest.
Thanks for summing it up perfectly and for the vote of confidence. Despite being a long time lurker, I don't post much on GOG because I'm used to most of the usual disdain we're subjected to by the less pro-consumer part of this industry. Not even the No Man's Sky situation made me react but adding an online DRM after announcing, hyping and in the end, cancelling a DRM-free release felt weirdly antagonistic and a direct jab at the values dear to GOG users.

I would have been fine with a simple staggering release, like in the case of Control.

Meanwhile, almost at the same time you have the devs from the game RAJI faced with the same situation (small dev, first game) taking the complete opposite approach, openly communicative about this topic and realizing that not only the DRM didn't stop anything, it wasn't the minor concern they thought it'd be for their customers, deciding on release day to remove their DRM completely: https://steamcommunity.com/games/730390/announcements/detail/4159596607895216999

After all this time, it's sad to see that DRM is still such a dividing topic. I'll just stop here because frankly there's not much point to keep ranting in a thread about a game they tried very hard convincing me not to buy anymore.

Stay safe everyone!
Post edited October 21, 2020 by lukaself
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lukaself: Meanwhile, almost at the same time you have devs faced with the same situation (small dev, first game) who are openly communicative about this topic and realizing that not only the DRM didn't stop anything, it wasn't the minor concern they thought it'd be for their customers, deciding on release day to remove their DRM completely: https://steamcommunity.com/games/730390/announcements/detail/4159596607895216999
A shame it is only sold on DRM-ridden stores, this is the kind of game I would have been ready to buy at full price if they provided a DRM-free installer. Sadly, all I can find is a demo
Post edited October 21, 2020 by vv221
Thanks for being straightforward about the issue. Your game will find its public when it finally arrives in here
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TeamDaedalic: Hello,
Due to the workload related to the Partisans 1941 release and the upcoming updates, we had to postpone the release of the game on GOG store.

We want to deliver the best possible experience to our customers and we had to make the difficult decision to concentrate our efforts on limited focal points.

We can’t say exactly when the game might be available here, but we’ll definitely keep you updated.
Heeeey, Team Daedalic! :D

How about those German language versions of Memoria and Chains of Satinav? Any chance of getting them on gog any time soon? :D
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joppo: but it's better than them releasing it DRMed
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DedIago: but that's what they already did! they released it DRMed. they released it even more DRMed than your usual Steam release, according to user posts provided by lukaself here. they postponed DRM-free release (of course it will come here, but I'll bet on later rather than sooner) that was aleady promised.
if they did not bother to promote game here at all and simply released it a year or two later, I would probably not have said a bad word, because that's what we GOGlodytes got used to.
but in this case they are showing not the usual indifference, but... um... disrespect, for the lack of more suitable word.
and now GOG release after skimming the cream off will only confirm status of GOG users as 'second-class citizens', as Fronzelneekburm called it.

well, maybe it wouldn't be that bad if DRM-free release still come here at least in 2020. but I highly doubt it, to be honest.
Ah, I can't look at lukaself's links at work so I'll take your word for the kind of DRM they applied.
Yeah, it doesn't take long for any newcomer to realize most devs look at us as second-class customers simply because we're not their beloved steeme. I think they probably didn't mean to disrespect us directly but wanted DRM on the game's early sales, signed publishing deals with many stores first and only realized that they included a DRM-free store among them very close to launch.

TL;DR: sucks to be the customers of the "second-class store". (But the alternative is even worse.)
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TeamDaedalic: Hello,
Due to the workload related to the Partisans 1941 release and the upcoming updates, we had to postpone the release of the game on GOG store.

We want to deliver the best possible experience to our customers and we had to make the difficult decision to concentrate our efforts on limited focal points.

We can’t say exactly when the game might be available here, but we’ll definitely keep you updated.
If you want to concentrate your efforts, why not drop the anti-feature of that ridiculous online check? That would not only save development time but also customer service resources. By now the game is presumably easily available at all popular piracy sites anyway so what, exactly, is the point of the anti-feature?

Edit: And when will you be providing the explicitly promised update on the situation? It's been more than 3 months since your last post in this thread.

Edit2: And I checked the profile, that seems to be your most recent posting on these forums. You're not making yourself look good with this ridiculous conduct, and it doesn't help that you lock threads with open bugs in Valve's forums simply because your support is apparently unable to fathom that the DRM code can have bugs.
Post edited January 19, 2021 by steffen17
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TeamDaedalic: Hello,
Due to the workload related to the Partisans 1941 release and the upcoming updates, we had to postpone the release of the game on GOG store.

We want to deliver the best possible experience to our customers and we had to make the difficult decision to concentrate our efforts on limited focal points.

We can’t say exactly when the game might be available here, but we’ll definitely keep you updated.
Sure hope this can make it to GOG sooner-than-later.

Any word?
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kai2: Sure hope this can make it to GOG sooner-than-later.

Any word?
Considering their moderators are still instantly perma-banning people mentioning the DRM on the Steam forums of the game, going as far as deleting threads, I'd say the publisher burned quite a lot of bridges with the DRM-free crowd. What an asinine way to lose customers.
Post edited January 30, 2021 by lukaself
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kai2: Sure hope this can make it to GOG sooner-than-later.

Any word?
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lukaself: Considering their moderators are still instantly perma-banning people mentioning the DRM on the Steam forums of the game, going as far as deleting threads, I'd say the publisher burned quite a lot of bridges with the DRM-free crowd. What an asinine way to lose customers.
Wow, that's terrible. I'd so looked forward to seeing that game here... but if they aren't even allowing the words to be uttered, I guess that won't happen for a looooooong while.
Well that's a bummer. I really don't like the publisher's behavior here. Normally I buy any game I'm interested in at launch/full price. The main reason is that I want to support the developers.

In this case however, should the game come to gog, I'll happily wait until there's a 90% price drop. Announcing the game here, then dropping the announcement with minimal communication and keeping users in the dark both here and on steam is just unacceptable in my opinion.

Good thing Commandos 2: Road to Paris just released as version 2.2. So there's plenty of Commandos to tide me over ;)