Nobody is going to listen, sadly.

I am so sorry for those persons whom probably suffered most harrowing fear the last moments of their lives.

And for those whom fight for their lives, whom should not be there.

And for those whom cry for someone they loved, and would still need.

I remain, as ever, very cold and bothered against homophobia, or any pitting of one group against some other, in law making, in religion especially in public life, and in my beloved hobby of gaming.

Excluding the fact the people back then never thought better guns would come about, there existed rifles and handguns back then that allowed you to fire multiple shots. Not to mention an early Gatling type gun. You could also own cannons.

But I suppose using the above as an argument, anything beyond the printing press should be disallowed.

Just look south to DK - there is a female imam lead mosque. Bit like the Scandi Lutheran Church fight for women priesthood - Denmark 1963 if I correctly remember, Finland... late eighties.

I must say though, I'd rather not make this religious, but matter of values of greater society. Which is secular in Europe. Renaissance, reform, enlightenment. And especially so in the North.

If we bring religion into it, we go back to dark ages. IMO. I want to really do without!


Edit: spelling.

The intent of the 2nd Amendment was to allow people to have access to the same weapons as the military - so people could rise up and overthrow it if the country fell to tyranny.

That being said... where''s my Abrams Battle Tank and F-14 Tomcat!!!???

While you do have a point about bashing religion, you're completely wrong about talking about gun control.

This is exactly the time that there needs to be talk about gun control. People arguing otherwise have blood on their hands as by the time things cool down enough to "show respect" for the families and victims, any hope of actually addressing the problem will have been gone.

I've had ties to 3 of the last 4 mass shootings around here. One I ran into the murderer's twin brother a bit later as we went to the same college. The next one was at a bar that my dad goes to and I'd been introduced to the murderer as well as at least one of the victims and then the next one was in a college building where I had some of my classes.

The bottom line here is that right now is the time to be talking about sensible gun controls while it's still raw. If we wait, then nothing will be done. How many more people need to die because we wanted to show respect for the families of the deceased?

such a round number

Aren't there any survivors in critical condition right now? It would be something of a mercy if all the people still alive would pull through.

Sweden YES!

Personally, I'll try to get #HashtagsAgainstMassmurder off the ground. Not sure it'll do any actual good, but I'm sure I can feel much better about myself afterwards.

Je suis sick of this shit.

Google showed nothing.

I don't know what you've been reading, but you might want to reconsider believing it and revise your reading list.

1. The 'left-wing subhuman mongrel' who instituted the gun control laws after the Port Arthur massacre in Australia was John Howard, a conservative politician (aka right wing) with unanimous support from all sides of government and broad popular support.
2. We have not had any such spikes in crimes. Whoever says we have is playing games with statistics, which as you should know can be cherry-picked/massaged to fit any agenda. All evidence strongly supports that the ban worked as designed.

So do christians. Should we condemn them too?
Same here in Canada. Our gun control is strict. We just don't have the mass murders the Americans ALWAYS do. We just DON'T. GUN CONTROL NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN THE STATES. It's pretty obvious.