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Posted September 13, 2016
Changed my mind, not looking for the quotes and just going with the stream of thoughts I rem.

As a meta comment, it’s kind of a weird effect of so many players (even if some are less active) that I feel like I don’t have any original thoughts. Sometimes I think something, to notice someone else posted on it. Other times I’m reading and just thinking, why didn’t I notice that? Brain says it’s not true, I know it's not true, but still… need to be careful not to tunnel on pet theories though…

@BLER

Marie, I don't know what to think... you seem to be either cockteasing me or giving me shit tests. I'm not good at the whole PUA stuff... My dear old ma warned me about widows...
Basically you are breaking my heart, and my brain. But tonight in the stable again?

Bler, in a huge tangent, the fact we don't have a church but some kind of community home. Ahistoric as well? It was something that felt off re my preconceptions of puritan colonialism.

@YOG

Eric, I'll go with you to check the stills. Feels like a long winter coming, being buzzed might help us get through it. Also I hope it'll help celebrate the nuptials.
We can talk and walk there, about you and your ma. And any Oedipal crap you might feel. Speaking of crap and feel, let’s take the long way round and stay near the river as long as possible, you know, just in case…

@WYRM

It would be self serving to agree your idea. But I was pretty sure we were slowly rolling to a Ix lynch, especially since he is not answering almost any of what is being asked of him. Now however, it's almost as if Trent has caused a distraction. Heh, now that's a paranoid stretch...
Posted September 13, 2016
forum being annoying and not posting :S
Posted September 13, 2016
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Brasas: Ok, so the Trent | Yog thing is deja vu all over again. I really don't like what Trent is doing though.

For one, he talks about pushing others, but pushing involves at least one arm and some force. At most he was using some fingers to tickle us, or maybe giving us one of those cute shoulder punch "aw shucks, you dastardly stranger you". [Oh my kingdom for a gif here...]

That in itself I could just put to Trent being Trent, I remember this tension about scumhunting a la Trent, and what the heck that means in a few games I lurked.

But these jumped at me:

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trentonlf: They are all enamored with you and focusing a lot of extra attention on you and you have no desire to actually look at any of them because it's Day 1. So we have 5 people skating around each other just giving each other looks. This is not a MU vs GOG game, this is a Mafia game last time I checked. If you find someone scummy pursue it, standing around with your dick in your hand gets you nowhere.
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Brasas: I haven't seen Yog dominating the discussion, either talking, or as the topic. Maybe right at the start a tad. I mean I haven't done a wordcount but this ^ feels factually incorrect.

And this:

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trentonlf: 2. I don't think yogs needs to be the focus of so much attention, finding scum should be
4. I'm not from MU

All this obviously makes me totally uninteresting
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Brasas: Is doubling down on the Yog storm in teapot and bordering on personal attack. Sure Wyrm was a bit provocative but still...

I haven't really had the time to iso Nacho or Wyrm (and the Champions League starts today so I despair...) but you just jumped to the top of my "ok to lynch" group. Can you reply to this with the coolheaded logic I want to see? Or are you going to blow up?

It's like, I don't see this as scummy per se * more like some weird type of tunneling. But it still of stinks.

* if I squint I could frame his 2 as slipping that Yog is town... but it's a stretch...

Now that's out of the way, a few more things I wanted to reply to.

Bump please. Although this should take longer to write...
I wholeheartedly assure you there are no personal attacks at all, just observations. Yogs does not want to vote any of his friends from MU on day 1 (his words) and the MU players seems focused on yogs more so than anyone else. Should I say that I will not vote any GOG players today because they are my friends and only look at MU players? Pretty sure that would get me lynched, but I honestly have no desire to lynch yogs today. He is one of the players that stays active the whole game and helps keep it going when it hits the inevitable wall of stagnancy. So on Day 1 with zero info to go on I prefer to peruse what I find to be scummy play, lurking or posting just to post without really contributing anything.
Posted September 13, 2016
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Brasas: @YOG

Eric, I'll go with you to check the stills. Feels like a long winter coming, being buzzed might help us get through it. Also I hope it'll help celebrate the nuptials.
We can talk and walk there, about you and your ma. And any Oedipal crap you might feel. Speaking of crap and feel, let’s take the long way round and stay near the river as long as possible, you know, just in case…
Brasas Brasas Brasas.

How long did we all attempt to pull you into games, and you would refuse all our overtures?

And here you are being excellent. Keep up the good work; it's appreciated.

But I'll check the stills by myself, thank you.

Speaking of which - did you know we all can send in Day actions - and get results?

Dun da DUNNNNN
Posted September 13, 2016
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Brasas: Who are you Emma?
Dan I'm surprised! It's me, Goody Emma. I don't spend *that* much time off writing, why it was just two days ago I helped both you along tending the horses and Sean with the cattle. I know we're all a bit distraught from losing Julie. *trails off* What in the world did happen to her...
Posted September 13, 2016
Didn't read the newest few posts yet, but lx said he would vote SirCrimsonFox for lack of participation.

I just want to say that such reason is weak and in almost illogical. If you said "lack of participation from Fox gives us no idea in regards who the Fox is himself and we are not getting any helpful ideas to help town decide, so this lurker is just dead weight and must be lynched", I would understand.

I think CSPVG is an example of being able to lurk to extreme limits yet providing good content at those short times when he appears. Only because of CSPVG I now believe that player can lurk whatever amount of time (s)he wants (though not breaking game rules), as long as valid content in regards of scum hunting, explanation of stuff and helping town decide, correcting someone is made.

That said, I don't like lx's reasoning about Fox. It just feels convenient, usual, nothing new, go with the flow sort of thing.

As about Fox himself, lack of content is what makes him worthy of vote.
Posted September 13, 2016
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drealmer7: SirCrimsonFox has been penalized
is this really zorkmod?

first you penalize me for posting too much when I didn't even know it was a thing
then you penalize me for not posting

holy crap this is awful what you are doing to this game

i'm just speechless


i'm seriuosly out

this kind of awful mod bullying is so tilting to me

you are a total moron
Post edited September 13, 2016 by SirCrimsonFox
Posted September 13, 2016
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SirCrimsonFox: i'm seriuosly out
Well... you didn't post for like, four days Foxy.

That's not an OK thing anyplace. Please stick with it.
Posted September 13, 2016
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trentonlf: snip
That's fair, but I would like to see the cases on the MU individuals then, because you have to admit it would be a freaking longshot if they all rolled scum together with Yogs. I think its natural they will tend to interact with folks they already know. I know I needed to push myself out of focusing only on players I played with myself.

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yogsloth: But I'll check the stills by myself, thank you.
Oy vey... more shit tests...

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yogsloth: Speaking of which - did you know we all can send in Day actions - and get results?
0_o

I sure hope you're just trying to pull the nightkill...
Posted September 13, 2016
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QuadrAlien: I'll keep up with the thread, but trying to put things into a coherent plan will have to wait until tomorrow.
Plan? What is dis "plan" of which you speak? (Now say it again with a Russian accent)

Seriously, just show up and chat. I'm not saying it always works well for me, and not that I don't have any plan in mind, but it's secondary to just, you know, talking and seeing what comes of that. The plan I had at launch is pretty much gone, though more through others' moves than my own, but that's ok. It's just a game - not like "Thermonuclear War" or something.

If everyone waited for the perfect post to execute the perfect plan...

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cristigale: Curious how strong you feel about this read.
Ironically after just writing that response to Quad I'm not 100% sure I should say, since I haven't thought about how quite that much clarity fits into the tattered remains of my own overall D1 plan. But eh, screw it.

I feel very strongly about it. I agree, and even think I said, my initial reaction was probably seeing it with too dark a lens since it required several assumptions that I don't know to be true.

But going back and breaking down the sequence of posts with more care, and then moreso, his absolute lack of follow-up + evasion REEEEALLY is bothering me.

Whatever he's concealing may be irrelevant, but I don't get why he's trying to just skate on this if town. Take a lump or two, explain it and move on. In the process you might come out clearer.

"I read the thread" was obviously not true vis-a-vis his first two posts unless at least one is false in at least some significant fashion. I'm not an LAL freak, I just want clarity.


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Brasas: Basically you are breaking my heart, and my brain. But tonight in the stable again?
I won't go breaking your heart - I couldn't if I tried.

But I'll be working in the barn tonight. Rain check?


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Dessimu: I think CSPVG is an example of being able to lurk to extreme limits yet providing good content at those short times when he appears..
Agree, though the issue with CSP is that he tends to start strong and then peter out as the days trod along. Loved his play in my game, for example, but then Wyrm played to his paranoia and cruelly and humorously lynched him D1.

Relevant here mostly as a comparison to, say, players who are more consistent over the course of a game but don't quite hit the same highs.

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Ixamyakxim: snip
Point blank - had you read any of the thread prior to your first post (#440), and if so, roughly how much?
Posted September 13, 2016
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bler144: snip
Nothing lasts forever, even cold October rain.
Posted September 13, 2016
@Lift
Why? Why not?

@Sushi
Tentative, thin townread on yog now. Also a certain dislike of Fox.

@trent
You have done very little that I recall. Same could be said for several people, actually, but some of your posts actually ping me a little

@Fox
4 days bro

why must the thread grow faster than I can keep up when I'm stuck on a phone???
Posted September 13, 2016
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yogsloth: @Wyrm – you really think this is Town trent? What’s your criteria?
Nothing specific, just a feeling. As things currently stand, if it came down to voting him or No Lynching today, I'd stick his head in the noose and kick the stool in a heartbeat.

Amusingly, if it came to No Lynch versus him, then town!Trent might thank me for it.

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Brasas: @WYRM

It would be self serving to agree your idea. But I was pretty sure we were slowly rolling to a Ix lynch, especially since he is not answering almost any of what is being asked of him. Now however, it's almost as if Trent has caused a distraction. Heh, now that's a paranoid stretch...
Oh good, the only non-flavor part of this post was addressed to me, so I don't feel bad responding.

We might be rolling to an Ix lynch, assuming we get rolling in any direction at all. When I was counting votes, I went in with the direction that Trent had more votes than he actually did, and I was prepared to comment on it. I was surprised to find out he only had two (I thought he had at least 3). However, I wouldn't say that Trent caused the distraction; more like he was pulled forward AS a distraction.

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trentonlf: Yogs does not want to vote any of his friends from MU on day 1
I don't think it was "I don't want to lynch my MU buddies", more like "I don't want to lynch the new comers Day 1". Something like our semi-traditional "Don't kill the new guy immediately, unless he does something really egregious".

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SirCrimsonFox: first you penalize me for posting too much when I didn't even know it was a thing
Was it "penalty for posting too much" or was it "penalty for editing a post by double posting" (the merge being a function of the GOG forum)?

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bler144: but then Wyrm played to his paranoia and cruelly and humorously lynched him D1.
It was uh...roleplaying. Yeah, I was just roleplaying a paranoid cop. Definitely not a power trip because I'd never been a cop (with a scum result, no less!) before. Nope, no sir, not me.
Posted September 13, 2016
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Bookwyrm627: I wouldn't say that Trent caused the distraction; more like he was pulled forward AS a distraction.
Dude, I'm online but busy. Surely you don't think Yog was the one pulling, so please point me who did?
Posted September 13, 2016
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yogsloth: @Wyrm – you really think this is Town trent? What’s your criteria?
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Bookwyrm627: Nothing specific, just a feeling. As things currently stand, if it came down to voting him or No Lynching today, I'd stick his head in the noose and kick the stool in a heartbeat.

Amusingly, if it came to No Lynch versus him, then town!Trent might thank me for it.

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Brasas: @WYRM

It would be self serving to agree your idea. But I was pretty sure we were slowly rolling to a Ix lynch, especially since he is not answering almost any of what is being asked of him. Now however, it's almost as if Trent has caused a distraction. Heh, now that's a paranoid stretch...
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Bookwyrm627: Oh good, the only non-flavor part of this post was addressed to me, so I don't feel bad responding.

We might be rolling to an Ix lynch, assuming we get rolling in any direction at all. When I was counting votes, I went in with the direction that Trent had more votes than he actually did, and I was prepared to comment on it. I was surprised to find out he only had two (I thought he had at least 3). However, I wouldn't say that Trent caused the distraction; more like he was pulled forward AS a distraction.

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trentonlf: Yogs does not want to vote any of his friends from MU on day 1
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Bookwyrm627: I don't think it was "I don't want to lynch my MU buddies", more like "I don't want to lynch the new comers Day 1". Something like our semi-traditional "Don't kill the new guy immediately, unless he does something really egregious".

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SirCrimsonFox: first you penalize me for posting too much when I didn't even know it was a thing
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Bookwyrm627: Was it "penalty for posting too much" or was it "penalty for editing a post by double posting" (the merge being a function of the GOG forum)?

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bler144: but then Wyrm played to his paranoia and cruelly and humorously lynched him D1.
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Bookwyrm627: It was uh...roleplaying. Yeah, I was just roleplaying a paranoid cop. Definitely not a power trip because I'd never been a cop (with a scum result, no less!) before. Nope, no sir, not me.
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