Thanks, and Ok. I'm not sure how much credit to give the adjectives being or not capitalized into compound nouns. But still when you put them side by side it does jump out at you.

Also, I think this is illustrative of the big difference between us. You never have THE map until the very end. But I think you need to have A map for anything you're doing. If you don't settle on A map, tentative as it may be, no wonder you are a tad lost.

Answering this will allow me to expand what I wanted to anyway. As more and more people post I look around and clearly this is another of those occasions where what seems super obvious to me only makes me look weird to the others. It's freaking ironic that the surer I get of something the less support I seem to be able to muster.

Alas, such is life.

First, my gameplan has not really changed at all. I want to go after Nacho, I think I'm on to something there and just waiting to be allowed to vote to lay it out. Also I would like to see discussion of the no lynches go deeper before that honestly. Trent and Yogs... are both getting a huge pass. (I think the others going to NL were Tammy and RW) Should also see anyone that left Dess wagon for another peanut wagon really... that was a no lynch vote in all but name.
Then I want to reread Lift, he pinged me early, and he pinged me later. When can I do this? Beats me, I hardly managed to take all the notes by the time daybreak came, despite speeding up when Drealmer posted the incoming warnings. And Yogs is getting himself on my radar - how rude of him :P
Lastly I won't vote any claimed role nor tammy today, no matter what (well, if someone comes out and claims scum I'll make an exception - but I think even Ix learned that lesson ;) ). Maybe scum would be so kind to all fakeclaim right now? You get me to not vote you? Ain't that nice?

What has really changed is that I feel much more relaxed D2. I'm sure at some level it's just that with near 10 players I actually feel like the game fits in my brain. So in a dark way, hurrah for so many deaths, every cloud has a silver lining yadah yadah...

But also considering the gamestate, it's like much lower responsibility weighing me. So, I have not excluded the possibility we have kind of gutted THE scum team. I was not happy with the way D1 ended, but Tammy and whatever happened to RW should have gotten us back on track so to speak. If that is the case, then even if scum is bigger than initially assumed they likely suffered a significant blow. I mean:
1 we haven't lost any PRs, apart the worrier and he basically fullfilled his role (btw... come on people, isn't it bloody obvious he was a bodyguard of sorts? read the darn flavor with eyes open please)
2 it seems the vig shots on town might have ended (kinda hope that's a bluff because 2 shots one scum is still quite good score I think)
So overall I feel like weight of numbers alone might do it. Note, I'm not saying it's in the bag, especially if the wolfs are experienced (like say, Yogs and Nacho :P) just that I particularly don't feel the same stress I did D1, especially with the clusterf... EOD. And I have a gameplan, per above, where in this scenario I have some scummy reads, and most everyone else would be town by default.

Then, the thing is, the 2nd NK is a hard fact, and with so many players I never was happy with the apparent push to consider scum would be only 4 or something (I think that was Wyrm). In the multiball scenario I could imagine something like 5/5/5. I mean, scum will kill each other. Maybe you all assume Drealmer would aim for a 50/50 chance of town winning, but I see that as town centric if there are more factions, and even in multiball, maybe such split is not that far from a decent chance of town winning depending on roles / abilities?

Basically, in this scenario considering how many dead and confirmed town there are (5 total from my POV) I turn it around and see almost everyone as default scum. Sure maybe the scum teams are smaller, but whatever (the scenarios mix then), anyway scum are bound to start killing each other, plus we are bound to start lynching some of them. I still have the scummier suspects to leisurely go after. And fundamentally, I think maybe I'm fucked and town is fucked, but it will be a ride, and maybe those PRs actually are all town, and we still have a decent shot even in multiball.

I mean, I could go on, but I guess that gives you an idea of my mindspace right now? Basically this doesn't change one thing in terms of actions I think we should be doing - lynching for flips. It kinda helps explain the fragmentation of wagon pushing D1, but that's just a bonus. And as we get more flips, it'll become clearer. Despite WIFOM and headfakes.


Now, let's have some fun with the other stuff. :)

Noted. I guess you likewise noticed the vig comment and that I want attention on the no lynch voters heh? :)

Don't worry though, I actually have others on my mind. But noted indeed.


I'm sure he's got reasons. His self-imposed MU sanctuary period is over for one... ;)

[opens dictionary]
Sloth is obvious and even appropriate... yog though... hmmm... yogurt? yoga? This might be harder than I thought...
Sure takes me back to kindergarden... ah, the memories.

It'll sort itself out either way.

[Refreshes.]

Why wouldn't you want an answer? I actually wondered that no one picked on that.

I thought he was the vig, based on the tree branch flavor and his mention of traps. If he had claimed vig I'd have a hard choice to make...

And really, I don't deserve any "town points" for holding onto Dess's wagon? Not sure what you're seeing, but I was there only for the flip, and was actually in the "Tammy voting a lurker" club. Whatever she saw, I have no freaking clue. But she was right (also about Quad) and that's that.