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amok: Personaly, and my wife can attest to this, I find fmale beaty in face, eyes and hair, not in the bottom. have you seen one bottom, you have seen them all. So for me, moving the camera up a bit is much better.
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Orkhepaj: if you like that way that's fine, still why should they change the game?
should they decide what is good in the game and what is not? i dont think so , if they want that they should do a remake
and if the developers are as me, should they not be allowed to change it to how they want it?

I can see the conversation:
Manager: Sex sells! Show Mirandas butt again! Yes just like that, and hold the camera right there, I get both cheeks right in my face now, nom nom nom!
Developer: But sir, it looks horrible, you must be the size of a mouse to see this, and it really don't fit the story line right now, this is supposed to be emotional
Manager: Shut it and zoom in. This will sell millions. mawahahahah. Oh yes Miranada, shake that money maker
Post edited February 08, 2021 by amok
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Orkhepaj: if you like that way that's fine, still why should they change the game?
should they decide what is good in the game and what is not? i dont think so , if they want that they should do a remake
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amok: and if the developers are as me, should they not be allowed to change it to how they want it?

I can see the conversation:
Manager: Sex sells! Show Mirandas butt again! Yes just like that, and hold the camera right there, I get both cheeks right in my face now, nom nom nom!
Developer: But sir, it looks horrible, you must be the size of a mouse to see this, and it really don't fit the story line right now, this is supposed to be emotional
Manager: Shut it and zoom in. This will sell millions. mawahahahah. Oh yes Miranada, shake that money maker
yes they shouldnt , they are free to leave the remastering team and make a new franchise based on their ideologies
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amok: and if the developers are as me, should they not be allowed to change it to how they want it?

I can see the conversation:
Manager: Sex sells! Show Mirandas butt again! Yes just like that, and hold the camera right there, I get both cheeks right in my face now, nom nom nom!
Developer: But sir, it looks horrible, you must be the size of a mouse to see this, and it really don't fit the story line right now, this is supposed to be emotional
Manager: Shut it and zoom in. This will sell millions. mawahahahah. Oh yes Miranada, shake that money maker
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Orkhepaj: yes they shouldnt , they are free to leave the remastering team and make a new franchise based on their ideologies
and if the original team and those doing the remaster are more or less the same people?
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Orkhepaj: yes they shouldnt , they are free to leave the remastering team and make a new franchise based on their ideologies
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amok: and if the original team and those doing the remaster are more or less the same people?
same answer , if they want a remaster then they should keep the game as close to the original as possible
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amok: and if the original team and those doing the remaster are more or less the same people?
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Orkhepaj: same answer , if they want a remaster then they should keep the game as close to the original as possible
I see, so it all about what you want, not what the autors want? You could argue that the point of a remaster could be that it is an opportunity for the authors to fix what they consider mistakes, and make the game they always intended to make
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Orkhepaj: same answer , if they want a remaster then they should keep the game as close to the original as possible
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amok: I see, so it all about what you want, not what the autors want? You could argue that the point of a remaster could be that it is an opportunity for the authors to fix what they consider mistakes, and make the game they always intended to make
nope it is all about sticking to the original game if they want to sell it as a remaster
these were not mistakes,if they always wanted fewer butts than why didn't they do that in the first place?
these are ideological changes what happened to the team probably by having different leaders
what you want is a remake with a different approach
here here, take this with you for the rest of your life, and let the mass effect debate be on hold forever concerning miranda's ass

https://leakedpie.com/australian-babe-yvonne-strahovski-nude/
They can have changed their intent, that doesn't make it for the better. They are free to change their intent just like we are free to buy or not buy. There may even be some people who would only buy the new (what I would call "censored" for lack of a better term) version, just like people who don't like the change.

However, it is not a 1:1 relationship between developer/publisher and consumer. They are effectively the gatekeepers to the content. Sure, the consumer can find a different game or franchise to suit their needs, but that is beside the point. Once a piece of art is out in the world, I would argue it becomes something more than just that of the creator's.

To the point that the original should at least be preserved or be released side-by-side.

I don't know how some of the pro-censorship folks feel about Star Wars' special edits/prequels/Star Wars Disney sequel trilogy where the true original series is inaccessible, or even Beamdog re-releases where the originals are not available for separate purchase, but to be consistent you need to be in favor of all of those too...against the fans of the original.
Post edited February 08, 2021 by rjbuffchix
For a while I was really confused. Should I should not buy it because of censorship? But since I saw a rather good summary from Yong Yeah about this I think these few cases where they changed the angle are fine. So I'm reassured to go with my original plan to not buy it because of DRM :)
Post edited February 08, 2021 by Anothername
Mass Effect - now with more lens flare and less ass shots!


It's a good game trilogy and hopefully EA nor BioWare fucks it up but we will see. Looking forward to see what they have done to ME1.
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anzial: I probably should play ME2 all over again just to see the butt, don't remember it feature so prominently before lol
It just occasionally uses that angle for a few seconds in conversations. It's not like that for the full length of it. Definitely nothing that would necessitate a change but they smelled free internet points and jumped at the opportunity.

With the way Bioware is these days, this doesn't surprise me at all.
Might buy it if the first one is a lot improved. Kinda bored of the highly praised second one (finished it 2 times like the first one) and playing the third one again.. I don't know. Not seeing much difference in them in the trailer and I mean how many times Kaiden must die and that planet scanning. Ugh. At least first one had mako and repetitive bases.
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amok: I see, so it all about what you want, not what the autors want? You could argue that the point of a remaster could be that it is an opportunity for the authors to fix what they consider mistakes, and make the game they always intended to make
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Orkhepaj: nope it is all about sticking to the original game if they want to sell it as a remaster
these were not mistakes,if they always wanted fewer butts than why didn't they do that in the first place?
these are ideological changes what happened to the team probably by having different leaders
what you want is a remake with a different approach
then you need to be quick and stop them! Especially the first part have already been given several changes ato fit in with the new engine, the characters, the customization and so on
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idbeholdME: It just occasionally uses that angle for a few seconds in conversations. It's not like that for the full length of it. Definitely nothing that would necessitate a change but they smelled free internet points and jumped at the opportunity.
well, I actually thought nobody would even notice the issue because no one started talking about it in the first place lol

its not just media company's, NASA lost all the original high quality footage, photo negatives of the moon landings, blue prints of space craft and some moon rocks because they couldn't be bothered to archive them properly.
That's your take? lol